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[GSTL] Team League Finals - Page 205

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Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3051 Posts
March 24 2011 14:10 GMT
#4081
Come online. See Cella and MMA fanclub on the latest section. Know shit happened :D
Gratz SlayerS! Cella won Best Coach Award I presume?
End my suffering
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
March 24 2011 14:11 GMT
#4082
Can't believe I missed the series. Dang it. Must have been amazing from the start!!! GOGO SlayerS!!
Avalain
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada308 Posts
March 24 2011 14:13 GMT
#4083
Poor oGs. They keep getting knocked out in the first round by the eventual winners of the tournament.
You know what unit really has balance problems? Colossi. Why, they look like they could be blown over in a stiff wind!
Maskedsatyr
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore1245 Posts
March 24 2011 14:17 GMT
#4084
GSTL>>>>>>GSL>everything else for me.
"Don't believe in you who believes in me, don't believe in me who believes in you, believe in you...who believes in yourself!"
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
March 24 2011 14:18 GMT
#4085
I love the fact that in the last 5 minutes of MMA vs MVP, Artosis and Tasteless hardly said a word: they were just as excited and nervous watching as the rest of us
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
March 24 2011 14:19 GMT
#4086
Wow... I lost some money betting on IM but damn was that an epic final.
I have no regrets, and I'm so happy to see SlayerS_Boxer the greatest esports figure of all time lift yet another trophy!
starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
March 24 2011 14:20 GMT
#4087
HO LEEE SHITTTTTTT.... I had trouble sleeping last night and I woke up just in time for the first game. Amazing series... good stuff... team league was better than singles this season imo.
Zannadar
Profile Joined March 2011
Turkey294 Posts
March 24 2011 14:20 GMT
#4088
Damn this has been too good...

Anyone know the schedule for GSL and GSTL in the upcoming months?
theBOOCH
Profile Joined November 2010
United States832 Posts
March 24 2011 14:22 GMT
#4089
Damn. MMA the hero killer. WW Slayers.
If all you're offering is Dos Equis, I will stay thirsty thank you very much.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
March 24 2011 14:23 GMT
#4090
They should do a league for a month where all of them play against each other and the two top teams would do a bo9 for the title. Instead of a team league with only 3/4 game days.

But on the other it's very exciting and it produces so many high quality games. GSTL is amazing!

GG slayers, hope they keep improving!
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
methematics
Profile Joined August 2010
United States392 Posts
March 24 2011 14:25 GMT
#4091
On March 24 2011 23:17 Maskedsatyr wrote:
GSTL>>>>>>GSL>everything else for me.


This was my first GSTL and i gotta say its wayyyyy better then the regular GSL.
Cep
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany41 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 14:31:17
March 24 2011 14:26 GMT
#4092
On March 24 2011 23:10 FuRong wrote:
Man, how come the GSTL and Code A finals are always so great but the real GSL finals never live up to the hype? =/


Because there's still a huge skill gap between the players. Also it's easier to take on an opponent you've prepared for. You know his style, strengths and weaknesses in and out. You know the maps and so on.
GSTL is simply less drawn out. You have to show adaptation and game sense on the fly. This leads to much more exciting games, if 2 skilled players face eachother.
Juaks
Profile Joined June 2010
United States384 Posts
March 24 2011 14:28 GMT
#4093
I am speechless. What Slayers did today is epic. Congrats to all of them, they deserve it.

Boxer must be proud and happy right now!! He really is the Emperor of Starcraft
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
March 24 2011 14:29 GMT
#4094
On March 24 2011 23:10 FuRong wrote:
Man, how come the GSTL and Code A finals are always so great but the real GSL finals never live up to the hype? =/

roflstomping is not fun to watch.
The only finale wich was exciting so far imo was season 2 Nestea vs Marineking.
Actually i thought the same when Alicia was stomping ppl today, this is just not amusing.
Its the close nail biting, nerve wrecking matches that make the game so fun to watch.
ahri
Profile Joined August 2010
Croatia24 Posts
March 24 2011 14:29 GMT
#4095
They should simply make round robin league with these 8 teams. That's 8*7/2=28 matches = 14 days = almost 3 full weeks. Semifinals, then finals would add up to nice finish on the fourth week.
Minds are like parachutes - they only function when open
Juaks
Profile Joined June 2010
United States384 Posts
March 24 2011 14:29 GMT
#4096
On March 24 2011 23:18 KristianJS wrote:
I love the fact that in the last 5 minutes of MMA vs MVP, Artosis and Tasteless hardly said a word: they were just as excited and nervous watching as the rest of us


LOL I noticed that. It was so tense!
sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
March 24 2011 14:32 GMT
#4097
On March 24 2011 23:18 KristianJS wrote:
I love the fact that in the last 5 minutes of MMA vs MVP, Artosis and Tasteless hardly said a word: they were just as excited and nervous watching as the rest of us


I was holding the bottle, watching at x2 speed, lamenting the fate of SlayerS and pulling my hair at MvP for being immortal. I cannot express the joy I am feeling at the moment.
@
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 14:35:48
March 24 2011 14:32 GMT
#4098
On March 24 2011 22:53 bearhug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 22:43 Samhax wrote:
I think the reason why TvT is such a good match up in sc2, is that Terran is the only race with great defensive tools (siege tanks, bunker), if you lose a battle you don't lose immediately.

Gratz MMA and Slayers!


Exactly. The defensive tools(mainly siege tanks) are the key: to attack you need to unsiege which, unless having a overwhelming number, usually lose to the sieged ones. Colossus is like a moving tank and does not require sieging for it to do splash damage, which makes it too powerful and somewhat boring.


The reason TvT is the way it is is because good positioning, siege timing, and dropping allows a numerically smaller Terran army to out-maneuver and destroy a much larger force. It's not just siege tanks but also marine drops and the tension between mobility and immobility that is the bread and butter of marine-tank-viking TvT.

PvP, even if it gets past the 4 gate stage (when defender's advantage comes down to being able to force field your ramp and/or build cannons), has none of this tension, and the problem indeed comes down to colossi. If HTs were a viable alternative to colossi late-game, you would see more warp prism drops and more positioning play (since storms are very positional damage dealers). But in the current meta-game, at least, mass colossi are more effective, and when it comes down to colossi, there is virtually no defender's advantage - numbers win.

The only real alternative to colossi in the mid game is blink stalkers, which are kind of like zerglings in ZvZ: highly mobile and micro intensive. Blink vs. blink is very like ling vs. ling except with even more micro, and yet like ling vs. ling it's still not possible to beat a much larger army with a much smaller one, so you end up chasing each other around the map trying to harass/counter-harass as much as possible before ending it with one big battle near someone's natural. It's a very active/dynamic match-up but defender's advantage is still non-existent. Again, numbers win.

This is the reason PvP isn't nearly as good as TvT. Numbers win, and so the key to winning is to find a specific timing when it's possible for you to possess a bigger army, and hitting that timing.

Once that's done, victory is as simple as a-moving to the opponent's base and avoiding major micro screw-ups. What positional advantage the defender has can be easily overcome with a larger force. That's the nature of PvP, for better or for worse.
Amateur
Profile Joined December 2010
United States25 Posts
March 24 2011 14:34 GMT
#4099
MMA so sick! Legend Killer for sure!
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 24 2011 14:35 GMT
#4100
ahhh. If mvp had to lose im glad it was to oov2.0. Those guys are going to rroll code A
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
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