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Players such as Jinro, HuK, and Adelscott did not apply for this tour, so don't ask why they aren't on this list. DIMAGA, Kas, and LaLush turned applications in late so they will not appear either. Please take some time to learn who exactly applied.

Please inform yourself about who applied and who didn't.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
March 27 2011 17:37 GMT
#1741
On March 28 2011 02:23 lazyfeet wrote:
I know Grubby is pretty legendary in wc3 but the fact that he is been invited even tho he pretty much is new to the sc2 scene and didn't establish himself as elite player in any tournaments is a big turn off for me. I will still be watching nasl but I'm start losing the excitement for it.
Also the invite feel like 80% popularity contest 20% accomplishment and skill now.

The same could pretty much be said about Artosis, yeah BW player but SC2? Not so much yet.
It appears I have been chosen.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 17:41:15
March 27 2011 17:39 GMT
#1742
The fact that Grubby got in, and in the same division as Moon (I'm a big Moon/Grubby fanboy) means that I'll watch this tournament, even just for that match :D!
e; I'm also thinking that the last 10 invites aren't really going to be Koreans.. Considering that there are foreigners like Minigun, Morrow, Ret etc. that definitely deserve to be there.
Now, I don't know how I'd feel about that, because I want those guys in as well, but like 5 Koreans isn't that kewl either.
It appears I have been chosen.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
March 27 2011 17:39 GMT
#1743
On March 28 2011 02:35 halvorg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 02:30 InteGrated wrote:
ok saw lalush write this before and i agree

nasl

north american nepotism league

+1000000

comeon... incontrol?? dde i thot this league was based on accomplishments


thats very clever, made me lol.


How was that very clever... he just replaced star with a word that he felt described the league which didn't even start with an S.
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
March 27 2011 17:40 GMT
#1744
Div1 could use more Europeans and Div5 needs less stacking ^_^
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
illmanic
Profile Joined August 2010
United States58 Posts
March 27 2011 17:40 GMT
#1745
On March 28 2011 02:37 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 02:23 lazyfeet wrote:
I know Grubby is pretty legendary in wc3 but the fact that he is been invited even tho he pretty much is new to the sc2 scene and didn't establish himself as elite player in any tournaments is a big turn off for me. I will still be watching nasl but I'm start losing the excitement for it.
Also the invite feel like 80% popularity contest 20% accomplishment and skill now.

The same could pretty much be said about Artosis, yeah BW player but SC2? Not so much yet.


No the same can't be said for Artosis. He actually qualified for the GSL.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
March 27 2011 17:40 GMT
#1746
i'm rather disappointed in the players so far, i was really hyped for this and all, but after looking at people like stalife and grubby getting invited, when there are players that should get invited instead just boggles my mind.

here are my current problems with nasl selection so far

1, Bias towards EG players (we knew this already though didn't we)
2, players are not diverse, and not many to no korean players so far (this will change though)
3, i've seen better talent at an assembly or an mlg (for much smaller prize pool)
4, lots of players who should be in the tournament missing and likely not to get in

as much as i was hoping for a great and awesome tournament. it looks like another average tournament with too much hype than needed.
Influ
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany780 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 17:41:54
March 27 2011 17:41 GMT
#1747
On March 28 2011 02:30 PGriff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 02:27 Influ wrote:
On March 28 2011 02:14 nam nam wrote:
On March 28 2011 02:10 Influ wrote:
grubby, goody...really hard to stay annoyed of the lack guidelines for the invites when you keep inviting my favorit players.
still sucks that "the kick off of esports in the west" starts with a damn popularity contest -.-


A bit off topic but he is in the final in the zotac cup right now. Not sure if he have won any tournaments in sc2 so far, it can't be that many, so be sure to tune in.

On topic I'm also happy that Goody got in.


i watch grubbys stream quiet often, i know how good he is and i really like him. doesn't change the fact that i absolutly hate that there is a tournament of that format were players just get invited and i don't have any clue on what basis. it seems like popularity matters and that is just not right in any way.



It very well may be a pure popularity contest, but I'm totally ok with that. They are all good players, no one will deny that. And if the league is to succeed, we need players people will watch and pay to watch (the most popular players). Some random grandmaster or whoever would qualify that no one has heard of would be bad for the league imo


its against everything that sports is about, it is just wrong and wrong things don't get right when someone pays for it. maybe they invite exactly the 50 best players, i'm still not fine that. and the argument that the league needs popular players fails also because me for example loses interest when something like this happens.
it's not like i say i won't watch or pay for NASL in an act of defiance, i just am not as exited as i thought i would be and i know that i am not alone with that.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
March 27 2011 17:41 GMT
#1748
<3 WhiteRa

Go Duckload!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Cathasaigh
Profile Joined April 2010
United States285 Posts
March 27 2011 17:41 GMT
#1749
On March 28 2011 02:37 Soleron wrote:
So. 10 spots.

I think the following foriegners deserve a place: Ret, Dimaga, Morrow, Optikzero, Minigun, Demuslim

So, most of the following list will be turned down: TOP, Squirtle, Moonglade,MC,Inca,Rainbow,Ensnare,Nada,
Lyn,July,TheWind,Supernova,Boxer,Bomber

Korea's best players put all this time into applying and now, for sure, most of them won't get a spot. Those people saying "but still some are unannounced", well 10 is not enough unless you exclude most of the above, which you will struggle to justify.


I won't struggle at all to justify turning down most of them. The lag complaints that we're already seeing in regards to Koreans in the TSL aren't needed when the games are going to be played on NA.
This is the tale of Captain Jack Sparrow!
SolonTLG
Profile Joined November 2010
United States299 Posts
March 27 2011 17:41 GMT
#1750
Everyone relax! At the end of every season the bottom 16 players have to re-qualify for the NASL. (See NASL Q&A)

The league has to start with SOME set of players, and over time the good ones will stay and the bad ones will fall away.
The Law Giver
halvorg
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Norway717 Posts
March 27 2011 17:41 GMT
#1751
On March 28 2011 02:39 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 02:35 halvorg wrote:
On March 28 2011 02:30 InteGrated wrote:
ok saw lalush write this before and i agree

nasl

north american nepotism league

+1000000

comeon... incontrol?? dde i thot this league was based on accomplishments


thats very clever, made me lol.


How was that very clever... he just replaced star with a word that he felt described the league which didn't even start with an S.


Because I find it very fitting. Get off my back pls.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
March 27 2011 17:41 GMT
#1752
On March 28 2011 02:32 Aquafresh wrote:
These groups look extremely uneven. I can't wait until they explain how they determined them. Putting Moon and Grubby in the same group as well as IdrA/NonY just seems like they're trying to manufacture a story. In fact the whole emphasis on "developing stories" makes me uneasy. Good stories develop naturally from good competition. If you try to manufacture them you get the XFL.


I agree with this. I'm so happy Grubby made it but putting him in the same group as Moon is stupid. Their clashes in WC3 are legendary but this just feels forced and artificial. It's one thing if it's the luck of the draw, then it's faith - this is just made up and fake.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
March 27 2011 17:41 GMT
#1753
On March 28 2011 02:40 illmanic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 02:37 Fyzar wrote:
On March 28 2011 02:23 lazyfeet wrote:
I know Grubby is pretty legendary in wc3 but the fact that he is been invited even tho he pretty much is new to the sc2 scene and didn't establish himself as elite player in any tournaments is a big turn off for me. I will still be watching nasl but I'm start losing the excitement for it.
Also the invite feel like 80% popularity contest 20% accomplishment and skill now.

The same could pretty much be said about Artosis, yeah BW player but SC2? Not so much yet.


No the same can't be said for Artosis. He actually qualified for the GSL.

Which was season 1, I don't want to say he sucks or anything but that doesn't really account for much anymore. I mean, look at Maka for example, not even code A-caliber anymore.
It appears I have been chosen.
illmanic
Profile Joined August 2010
United States58 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 17:43:32
March 27 2011 17:42 GMT
#1754
On March 28 2011 02:41 SolonTLG wrote:
Everyone relax! At the end of every season the bottom 16 players have to re-qualify for the NASL. (See NASL Q&A)

The league has to start with SOME set of players, and over time the good ones will stay and the bad ones will fall away.


I think it should be closer to half the players. That way more players can get in based on merit than some arbitrary methodology that somehow picks EU and NA over KR.
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
March 27 2011 17:43 GMT
#1755
need more koreans... to repeat the success of TSL, well, at least to try to....
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
March 27 2011 17:43 GMT
#1756
On March 28 2011 02:41 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 02:32 Aquafresh wrote:
These groups look extremely uneven. I can't wait until they explain how they determined them. Putting Moon and Grubby in the same group as well as IdrA/NonY just seems like they're trying to manufacture a story. In fact the whole emphasis on "developing stories" makes me uneasy. Good stories develop naturally from good competition. If you try to manufacture them you get the XFL.


I agree with this. I'm so happy Grubby made it but putting him in the same group as Moon is stupid. Their clashes in WC3 are legendary but this just feels forced and artificial. It's one thing if it's the luck of the draw, then it's faith - this is just made up and fake.

Aren't you excited to see them clash though? I love and always have loved these kind of rivalry battles.
It appears I have been chosen.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
March 27 2011 17:43 GMT
#1757
On March 28 2011 02:27 Influ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 02:14 nam nam wrote:
On March 28 2011 02:10 Influ wrote:
grubby, goody...really hard to stay annoyed of the lack guidelines for the invites when you keep inviting my favorit players.
still sucks that "the kick off of esports in the west" starts with a damn popularity contest -.-


A bit off topic but he is in the final in the zotac cup right now. Not sure if he have won any tournaments in sc2 so far, it can't be that many, so be sure to tune in.

On topic I'm also happy that Goody got in.


i watch grubbys stream quiet often, i know how good he is and i really like him. doesn't change the fact that i absolutly hate that there is a tournament of that format were players just get invited and i don't have any clue on what basis. it seems like popularity matters and that is just not right in any way.


I wasn't trying to convince you about Grubby's skill or that NASL application process is good, but to play devils advocate here; what's the difference with NASL (except the prize pool) than the gazillion invitational tournaments we have seen so far in sc2? Most bigger tournaments and lans have had at least partially invitations, very few going public with how exactly they decide the players. If you look at other upcoming tournaments with fairly large prize pools that have invitational, you don't see people complaining about this. And for NASL this is only for the 1 season anyway, so really, what is the big deal here?
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
March 27 2011 17:46 GMT
#1758
On March 28 2011 02:40 illmanic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 02:37 Fyzar wrote:
On March 28 2011 02:23 lazyfeet wrote:
I know Grubby is pretty legendary in wc3 but the fact that he is been invited even tho he pretty much is new to the sc2 scene and didn't establish himself as elite player in any tournaments is a big turn off for me. I will still be watching nasl but I'm start losing the excitement for it.
Also the invite feel like 80% popularity contest 20% accomplishment and skill now.

The same could pretty much be said about Artosis, yeah BW player but SC2? Not so much yet.


No the same can't be said for Artosis. He actually qualified for the GSL.


How long is that ago?

6months? And in the first season also...


I'm happy that Artosis is in, but saying that he made it because of his SC2 achievements seems off.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Nidoa
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada239 Posts
March 27 2011 17:46 GMT
#1759
Xeris has stated (and it has been restated alot after) that they pick based on results, results, results, popularity.

I imagine they had a few more restrictions when it came to koreans though.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
March 27 2011 17:47 GMT
#1760
On March 28 2011 02:37 Soleron wrote:
Korea's best players put all this time into applying and now, for sure, most of them won't get a spot.


Yeah, all this time. Probably wrecked a whole month with all the time they put in.

I don't think any of the oGs-guys will get in, I'm pretty sure they missed the deadline.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
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