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ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2986 Posts
March 21 2011 16:03 GMT
#6881
That was the ouch day for TLAF-Liquid Loosing arguably it's 2 best players. Considering TLO is facing NaDa things are looking a little grim for the home team :/

Hope Ret and HayprO will deliver. I haven't watched HuK's games but Jinro didn't play bad at all, I just think nobody has really figured out a really strong counter to those early mid-game blings busts "à la July".
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
March 21 2011 16:06 GMT
#6882
On March 22 2011 01:03 ChApFoU wrote:
That was the ouch day for TLAF-Liquid Loosing arguably it's 2 best players. Considering TLO is facing NaDa things are looking a little grim for the home team :/

Hope Ret and HayprO will deliver. I haven't watched HuK's games but Jinro didn't play bad at all, I just think nobody has really figured out a really strong counter to those early mid-game blings busts "à la July".

TSL is Nony's tournament. It may seem bad now, but it's really for the best because it means he doesn't have to eliminate any of his own teammates on his way to the finals
BenBuford
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark307 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-21 16:12:00
March 21 2011 16:08 GMT
#6883
I like Husky's casting. Some may find him less strategically insightfull than the other casters, and this may be true. I won't make claims otherwise. He is however greater at improvization, than most other casters, and he comes up with random stuff that puts a smile on my face. Funny bones, I guess.This makes me enjoy the games even more, than just being reminded what is actually happening in the game.

Regarding GG/no GG.
For me it's like people going to church. It's fine by me if you like to do that. But don't try to force me to go as well, and don't remind me that I really should, just because You think I should.
In other words: Don't try to project your ideals unto others.

Oh, and now that I seem to have stirred the pot. What a GREAT tournament this is turning into. Awesome stream quality, graphics, casters and player pool. This is high quality entertainment. GJ by all involved in this production.

Playerwise, I'm impressed by ThorZaIn, Sen and Morrow so far, in particular.
BenBuford on twitter.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
March 21 2011 16:30 GMT
#6884
god dammit.

Loner/Huk and Jinro =(
checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
March 21 2011 16:41 GMT
#6885
My bracket jst die.... Huk and Jinro were on my top 4
El amor no mueve al mundo, ni hace brillar el sol, pero el amor hace latir este corazon....
Vehemus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States586 Posts
March 21 2011 16:41 GMT
#6886
On March 22 2011 01:08 BenBuford wrote:
I like Husky's casting. Some may find him less strategically insightfull than the other casters, and this may be true. I won't make claims otherwise. He is however greater at improvization, than most other casters, and he comes up with random stuff that puts a smile on my face. Funny bones, I guess.This makes me enjoy the games even more, than just being reminded what is actually happening in the game.

Regarding GG/no GG.
For me it's like people going to church. It's fine by me if you like to do that. But don't try to force me to go as well, and don't remind me that I really should, just because You think I should.
In other words: Don't try to project your ideals unto others.

Oh, and now that I seem to have stirred the pot. What a GREAT tournament this is turning into. Awesome stream quality, graphics, casters and player pool. This is high quality entertainment. GJ by all involved in this production.

Playerwise, I'm impressed by ThorZaIn, Sen and Morrow so far, in particular.


No, you don't have to GG. Nobody says you have to say GG. But when saying GG is the absolute standard for StarCraft 2 tournaments then you better realize that you're going to be viewed as a ragequitter and bad mannered player. If you don't have a problem with that, then feel free to quit tournament games without saying anything.

And if there's an invitational, don't be surprised if you're not invited because of your bad manners. Nobody likes a sore loser.
This space for rent.
j3i
Profile Joined February 2011
United States357 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-21 16:49:02
March 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#6887
On March 22 2011 01:41 Vehemus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 01:08 BenBuford wrote:
I like Husky's casting. Some may find him less strategically insightfull than the other casters, and this may be true. I won't make claims otherwise. He is however greater at improvization, than most other casters, and he comes up with random stuff that puts a smile on my face. Funny bones, I guess.This makes me enjoy the games even more, than just being reminded what is actually happening in the game.

Regarding GG/no GG.
For me it's like people going to church. It's fine by me if you like to do that. But don't try to force me to go as well, and don't remind me that I really should, just because You think I should.
In other words: Don't try to project your ideals unto others.

Oh, and now that I seem to have stirred the pot. What a GREAT tournament this is turning into. Awesome stream quality, graphics, casters and player pool. This is high quality entertainment. GJ by all involved in this production.

Playerwise, I'm impressed by ThorZaIn, Sen and Morrow so far, in particular.
Nobody likes a sore loser.


But what about the idra fanclub
I am an idiot who knows only about gaming, so there is nothing private to talk about to begin with. - Bisu
EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
March 21 2011 16:52 GMT
#6888
Hmm...I was expecting to see some new topics one TL along these lines:

+ Show Spoiler +
"A thorough analysis of Banelings"

"Analysis on the true Baneling's DPS" or

"Is Baneling's AoE damage to powerful?"

But it seems that despite the uproar yesterday in this thread, people saw that Morrow just played the best he could against Jinro's strategy.
aka Wardo
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
March 21 2011 16:57 GMT
#6889
On March 22 2011 01:08 BenBuford wrote:Regarding GG/no GG.
For me it's like people going to church. It's fine by me if you like to do that. But don't try to force me to go as well, and don't remind me that I really should, just because You think I should.
In other words: Don't try to project your ideals unto others.

Eh? It's more like if you go to church respect the rules that apply there. If you play Tennis you shake hands after a game, if you don't it's extremely bad mannered. It's part of culture, it's not about forcing your beliefs on others.
kvarko
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden26 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-21 17:02:02
March 21 2011 16:59 GMT
#6890
On March 22 2011 01:03 ChApFoU wrote:
That was the ouch day for TLAF-Liquid Loosing arguably it's 2 best players. Considering TLO is facing NaDa things are looking a little grim for the home team :/

Hope Ret and HayprO will deliver. I haven't watched HuK's games but Jinro didn't play bad at all, I just think nobody has really figured out a really strong counter to those early mid-game blings busts "à la July".


The nice thing with Morrows strategy is that he is known to do the same build every game (i think it's 14 pool 16 hatch) and then he shows up to TSL playing very aggressive suddenly. It probably wasn't what Jinro had expected.
AAH YEEAH!
sadyque
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania251 Posts
March 21 2011 17:01 GMT
#6891
I really dont like PVP (who does?) but the best match so far imo was Huk vs Hasu. The way Hasu blinked all around the map , the chasing and the micro it was all awesome to watch. Really really good control from Hasu and really nice strategies from Huk put those 3 games to nr 1 in my book.
Second best match was Thorzain vs FruitDealer. Best TVZ i have seen in a long time. There were no holes that you could see in Thorzains play even tho fruitDealer tried a lot. Freaking awesome.
Rest of the matches were kinda 'meh'. TVPs were 'no rush 15' and lets meet in the middle of the map to attack each other (only one that was remotely fun was whiteRa vs Loner where Ra showed some awesome positioning). Another pretty kewl set was Jinro vs Morrow where Morrow showed why he is one of the best SC2 players in the world (who the hell switches races and after 3 months wtfpwns everyone???!?).
All in all a really strong opening in the TSL3 first weekend.
60 bucks? But it has Kerrigans Boobs in three god damn dimensions. Do you know how long i have waited for this?
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-21 17:09:11
March 21 2011 17:08 GMT
#6892
Is noone allowed to bring up the lag issue...
OMG Strelok actually had a point... Shouldn't have thought he was being an ass.
IEM: Korean>>>>World (No Lag!)
TSL: World>Korean (LAGGGGG!!)

Conclusion:
Lag+BNet 2.0>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R1ch's magic + Korean Skill ceiling.
GG.
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
March 21 2011 17:08 GMT
#6893
On March 22 2011 01:08 BenBuford wrote:
Regarding GG/no GG.
For me it's like people going to church. It's fine by me if you like to do that. But don't try to force me to go as well, and don't remind me that I really should, just because You think I should.
In other words: Don't try to project your ideals unto others.

When your mom say to you "Good morning" do you respond "F**c you!" ??

If your answer is yes don't read the rest.

GG is a show of respect for a fellow gamer. Just like you work hard to win a match so does you opponent. Of course there is times that your opponent don't deserve respect but that's another story. In this case MC didn't make anything that disrespected Ciara so the fact that he left the game without GG only showed that he couldn't control his own frustration.

Another thing: respect as far as I know is independent of religion or going to church so your analogy really doesn't make any sense.
aka Wardo
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
March 21 2011 17:16 GMT
#6894
When does the next day of games start?
Don't you rage when you lose too? -FruitDealer
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-21 17:25:22
March 21 2011 17:16 GMT
#6895
On March 22 2011 02:08 Firereaver wrote:
Is noone allowed to bring up the lag issue...
OMG Strelok actually had a point... Shouldn't have thought he was being an ass.
IEM: Korean>>>>World (No Lag!)
TSL: World>Korean (LAGGGGG!!)

Conclusion:
Lag+BNet 2.0>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R1ch's magic + Korean Skill ceiling.
GG.

wtf? Only 3 Koreans have played so far, and 2 of them won....

And both players participating in the match will experience lag.

And "R1ch's magic + Korean Skill ceiling"? what do you even mean here.


ALSO: Consider that the Non-Koreans have been preparing against the Korean player they are facing specifically for weeks, where as the Koreans (MC, BoxeR, and Fruitdealer all said this in their interviews, except BoxeR said he saw a few replays) had never heard of there opponents and never researched anything about them. But still, 2 of them won, and only one of them lost, "with lag", and without preperation.

If you include Jinro and HuK as Korean, HuK made himself to public by streaming nearly every game he played, and Hasuobs just researched him, plus it's PvP. Jinro just got outplayed, he didn't change anything up, and lost to the same thing twice (and there is a counter to the strategy MorroW used)
ALL ABOARD THE INTERNET BANDWAGON
BenBuford
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark307 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-21 17:21:18
March 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#6896
EDIT: Self modded. Nvm, this discussion is useless.
BenBuford on twitter.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
March 21 2011 17:22 GMT
#6897
On March 22 2011 00:16 elementz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 23:48 hugman wrote:
On March 21 2011 23:46 Danjoh wrote:Add to that that Boxer and FD hadn't been doing so well lately, HuKs PvP hasn't been that impressive, and MorroW is a beast. I don't think there has been any huge upsets so far. The only onesided matchup so far has been MC vs Ciara.

FD 2-0ed Virus who then 2-0ed Ace who 14-0ed IEM

and?? your point? MvP won GSL feb, and then got 2-0 by allicia and 2-0 by Genius, then allicia and genius are better than whoever MvP beat in GSL feb? The reason why tournaments are actually played and people don't just compare stats and win games that way.

I never said anyone was better than anyone else, my point is just that FD isn't bad
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
March 21 2011 17:27 GMT
#6898
On March 22 2011 02:16 Kazzabiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 02:08 Firereaver wrote:
Is noone allowed to bring up the lag issue...
OMG Strelok actually had a point... Shouldn't have thought he was being an ass.
IEM: Korean>>>>World (No Lag!)
TSL: World>Korean (LAGGGGG!!)

Conclusion:
Lag+BNet 2.0>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R1ch's magic + Korean Skill ceiling.
GG.

wtf? Only two Koreans have played, one was horribly slumping, and one is the best player in the world. Guess who is who.

And both players participating in the match will experience lag.

And "R1ch's magic + Korean Skill ceiling"? what do you even mean here.

To clarify I should say I meant Korean server when I said Korean. i.e HuK, Jinro, FD BoxeR almost....
Also I think if you apply yourself enuff it shud be easy to understand wat I mean.
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
March 21 2011 17:27 GMT
#6899
On March 22 2011 02:22 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 00:16 elementz wrote:
On March 21 2011 23:48 hugman wrote:
On March 21 2011 23:46 Danjoh wrote:Add to that that Boxer and FD hadn't been doing so well lately, HuKs PvP hasn't been that impressive, and MorroW is a beast. I don't think there has been any huge upsets so far. The only onesided matchup so far has been MC vs Ciara.

FD 2-0ed Virus who then 2-0ed Ace who 14-0ed IEM

and?? your point? MvP won GSL feb, and then got 2-0 by allicia and 2-0 by Genius, then allicia and genius are better than whoever MvP beat in GSL feb? The reason why tournaments are actually played and people don't just compare stats and win games that way.

I never said anyone was better than anyone else, my point is just that FD isn't bad

Add to that that Boxer and FD hadn't been doing so well lately

I would like to see your arguement against FD doing bad lately, as 2-0ing Virus is SOOOOOOO impressive /s
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Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
March 21 2011 17:29 GMT
#6900
On March 22 2011 02:27 Firereaver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 02:16 Kazzabiss wrote:
On March 22 2011 02:08 Firereaver wrote:
Is noone allowed to bring up the lag issue...
OMG Strelok actually had a point... Shouldn't have thought he was being an ass.
IEM: Korean>>>>World (No Lag!)
TSL: World>Korean (LAGGGGG!!)

Conclusion:
Lag+BNet 2.0>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R1ch's magic + Korean Skill ceiling.
GG.

wtf? Only two Koreans have played, one was horribly slumping, and one is the best player in the world. Guess who is who.

And both players participating in the match will experience lag.

And "R1ch's magic + Korean Skill ceiling"? what do you even mean here.

To clarify I should say I meant Korean server when I said Korean. i.e HuK, Jinro, FD BoxeR almost....
Also I think if you apply yourself enuff it shud be easy to understand wat I mean.

read my edit, sorry

ALSO: Consider that the Non-Koreans have been preparing against the Korean player they are facing specifically for weeks, where as the Koreans (MC, BoxeR, and Fruitdealer all said this in their interviews, except BoxeR said he saw a few replays) had never heard of there opponents and never researched anything about them. But still, 2 of them won, and only one of them lost, "with lag", and without preperation.

If you include Jinro and HuK as Korean, HuK made himself to public by streaming nearly every game he played, and Hasuobs just researched him, plus it's PvP. Jinro just got outplayed, he didn't change anything up, and lost to the same thing twice (and there is a counter to the strategy MorroW used)


Also, I still don't know what your last statement means, and I did apply myself enuff
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