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Any balance whining/complaining/bad manner shit of ANY SORT is automatic temp ban.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 11:02:11
March 16 2011 11:02 GMT
#1401
15 kills on TOP's banshee. 20 before it finally died.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
deerpark87
Profile Joined January 2011
760 Posts
March 16 2011 11:02 GMT
#1402
really good delay banshee harass
kazansky
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany931 Posts
March 16 2011 11:02 GMT
#1403
TOPs banshee gets taken out with 18 kills to his belly, TOPs natural is saturated while Rain seems quite behind on economy.
"Mathematicians don't understand mathematics, they get used to it." - Prof. Kredler || "That was more one-sided that a mobius strip." - Tasteless
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
March 16 2011 11:02 GMT
#1404
1 Banshee, 19 kills for TOP... NICE!
I <3 Plexa.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 16 2011 11:02 GMT
#1405
On March 16 2011 20:01 Zeiryuu wrote:
It may be a good idea to compile all win/lose stats per map for the current GSL season. The stats could shed light to what may have caused the terran slump this season. Large new maps perhaps?

liquipedia solves all
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/leagues/1048_2011_Intel_GSL_Sponsorship_League_Season_2:_Code_S
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
March 16 2011 11:02 GMT
#1406
Not the biggest fan of TvT..just hoping i get to see some BC action before it's all over.. Banshee raining down hell (18 kills atm) on Rain right now.. (see what I did there?)
dookudooku
Profile Joined December 2010
255 Posts
March 16 2011 11:02 GMT
#1407
Gosh, I hope the mods give the balance whiners a ban, especially to the one who created an account specifically to QQ.

Instead of talking about balance, why don't we talk about what MVP could have done to win? It's pretty clear that he didn't put enough effort into slowing down the Protoss before they massed a large number of colossi.

MVP was also extremely predictable with his expansion timings, and both his opponents probably practiced extensively against this. He needs to mix up his game and do things like 1 base stim rush, or quick hellion drops.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
March 16 2011 11:03 GMT
#1408
On March 16 2011 20:02 Daralii wrote:
15 kills on TOP's banshee. 20 before it finally died.

+ Show Spoiler [hero banshee] +
[image loading]
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
kazansky
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany931 Posts
March 16 2011 11:03 GMT
#1409
Rain sieging up his natural choke, TOP is 30 supply ahead.
"Mathematicians don't understand mathematics, they get used to it." - Prof. Kredler || "That was more one-sided that a mobius strip." - Tasteless
kazansky
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany931 Posts
March 16 2011 11:03 GMT
#1410
TOP is filling a medivac with marines and seems like willing to drop the natural of Rain, gets scouted, still does is, Rain needs to pull back.
"Mathematicians don't understand mathematics, they get used to it." - Prof. Kredler || "That was more one-sided that a mobius strip." - Tasteless
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
March 16 2011 11:04 GMT
#1411
Top dropping a medivac on Rain's expansion doing little damage killing a few scv's.
kazansky
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany931 Posts
March 16 2011 11:04 GMT
#1412
Both players are now getting Stim, 14 minute mark, the drop did not do much damage, kept the medivac.
"Mathematicians don't understand mathematics, they get used to it." - Prof. Kredler || "That was more one-sided that a mobius strip." - Tasteless
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
March 16 2011 11:04 GMT
#1413
TOP with a 30 worker advantage.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
March 16 2011 11:04 GMT
#1414
On March 16 2011 20:02 dookudooku wrote:
Gosh, I hope the mods give the balance whiners a ban, especially to the one who created an account specifically to QQ.

Instead of talking about balance, why don't we talk about what MVP could have done to win? It's pretty clear that he didn't put enough effort into slowing down the Protoss before they massed a large number of colossi.

MVP was also extremely predictable with his expansion timings, and both his opponents probably practiced extensively against this. He needs to mix up his game and do things like 1 base stim rush, or quick hellion drops.
That guy who made an account purely for the purpose of QQing got reported immediately (by me) and justice was served.
I <3 Plexa.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 16 2011 11:04 GMT
#1415
33 scv for rain, 60 for TOP :D
TOP is always making large productions queues, but still :p
boymature
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden13 Posts
March 16 2011 11:04 GMT
#1416
any restreams? please PM me. would appreciate it so much!
Huckleuro
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom294 Posts
March 16 2011 11:04 GMT
#1417
No idea why and i may get a warning for this rather obscure post.... But todays games have made me a MarineKing fan.

The little wing-nut has had haters since season 2, people constantly crying his near future demise . Yet hes consistantly produced:
- Moments of magic
- Controversy
- Nail biters

He dropped the ball totally in the TvT finals vs MvP though, and until Terrans find an answer to the new quick upgrade, blink/charge pressure protoss builds then I feel we wont have any terran outside of GOODY THE KING do well in comps.

Sad day for terran. MvP has dropped 4% of his win/loss (not sure how much this means) on ladder recently... possibly a slum in motivation thinking hes too cool for school?

oGsMC must be smiling. Kid could take a 3rd next season.
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
March 16 2011 11:04 GMT
#1418
On March 16 2011 20:02 AimForTheBushes wrote:
Not the biggest fan of TvT..just hoping i get to see some BC action before it's all over.. Banshee raining down hell (18 kills atm) on Rain right now.. (see what I did there?)


For that you gotta watch a Goody TvT. BCs make their most apperances there.
kazansky
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany931 Posts
March 16 2011 11:05 GMT
#1419
TOP is pushing the long distance with marine tank viking, and now elevator dropping the cliff above Rains natural.
"Mathematicians don't understand mathematics, they get used to it." - Prof. Kredler || "That was more one-sided that a mobius strip." - Tasteless
Silfurstar
Profile Joined November 2010
Switzerland263 Posts
March 16 2011 11:05 GMT
#1420
Though balance can always be discussed (and I feel it's an interesting topic to work towards making the most perfect e-sport game possible), I think that, right now, we're way too far from the skill ceiling for it to really matter on the long run.
It can definitely unfairly influence the outcome of a single given situation in a match (the risk/reward equilibrium is sometimes messed up), but I really don't think it can shift a player's whole tournament run.

Look at poker for instance. Though it's definitely not the same, I think it can illustrate my point quite well. The most skilled pros can have consistent results year after year, even when any given situation is influenced by an "imbalanced" element of luck (always favoring one player or the other).
Even in a single tournament, with a run of statistically bad starting hands, an excellent player will achieve better results than what probability would predict.

Once the SC2 pro scene will get closer to the "optimal" skill level, balance discussion will be a lot more precise and efficient.
Af of now, I think individual skills and decision making weighs too much in the outcome of a match for slight imbalances to really matter.
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