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It's ok to be excited that your favorite player won. Please keep it manner!
fishinguy
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation798 Posts
February 12 2011 16:20 GMT
#3421
On February 13 2011 01:19 Tachion wrote:
Ret will freaking destroy if he gets a ZvZ finals, so here's hoping


I dunno man, morrow has a very good ZvZ as well.
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
February 12 2011 16:20 GMT
#3422
On February 13 2011 01:17 mytent wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 01:12 Resilient wrote:
On February 13 2011 01:09 mytent wrote:
Yeah.

Pretty amateur. Their micro was HORRIBLE. Lots of games, someone made a huge blunder... and the other player makes an even bigger blunder, and gives the game back to the other.. =/

But yep. Stopped streaming assembly. meh. Maybe it'll be more fun to watch next time. When it doesnt feel like watching diamond league streams.


Pretty ironic since these games are better than most of the Code A games you seem to value so highly. Stop being an asshole just because theres no Americans left and Huk lost to a European.


I havent seen the Code A games before, only going to follow it now because of foreigner influx.

But really.

Let me remember what I saw in the last 48 hours or so


1. Half scvs stopped mining after banshee harass

2. Queen chasing overlord halfway across the map

3. 1 Pylon powering 4 gateways

4. Zerg army split with one half attacking a cannon and pylons (and the other half getting owned)

And that's just off the top of my head.

Guess which top europeans played thosee games. If you've been following Assembly, you should know. =)


The number 2 was awesome
What is up? IM NESTEAAAA!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 12 2011 16:20 GMT
#3423
On February 13 2011 01:17 CursedFeanor wrote:
Socke picking Steppes of war and cheesing like he did is equivalent to admitting he's an inferior player who can't take on HuK in a straight up match.

While I agree that he's not in the same skill-class, it's is very disappointing that he didn't even try to prove himself given such a nice opportunity. I used to really like Socke but he just lost points here...

Let's hope Ret wins this now! In his last interviews, it sure sounded like he'd need such a motivation boost.


That was PvP, the standard is PvP is generally some form of 1 basing or cheesing. Socke played extremely well and forced huk to make the mistake in the last game. He was the better player this series. Simple as that. Stop insulting him saying he is inferior. There is no such thing as a "standard macro game".

I'm sure Huk will bounce back. It's a tough thing going out due to PvP which I think he his worse matchup(?). Just because he lost doesn't mean he is bad, these players are all close in skill and anyone can win a series.
doerit
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany234 Posts
February 12 2011 16:20 GMT
#3424
On February 13 2011 01:19 Tachion wrote:
Ret will freaking destroy if he gets a ZvZ finals, so here's hoping


I am not sure about that, MorroW is a ZvZ beast as well, could be awesome games (I say that as a terran lol)
dookudooku
Profile Joined December 2010
255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 16:22:19
February 12 2011 16:20 GMT
#3425
On February 13 2011 01:17 CursedFeanor wrote:
Socke picking Steppes of war and cheesing like he did is equivalent to admitting he's an inferior player who can't take on HuK in a straight up match.

While I agree that he's not in the same skill-class, it's is very disappointing that he didn't even try to prove himself given such a nice opportunity. I used to really like Socke but he just lost points here...

Let's hope Ret wins this now! In his last interviews, it sure sounded like he'd need such a motivation boost.


I think Huk has the best mechanics and micro, but his over-reliance on them was also his downfall here.

Socke vastly outplayed Huk in the metagame aspect on games 1 and 3.
zex66
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada651 Posts
February 12 2011 16:20 GMT
#3426
On February 13 2011 01:17 CursedFeanor wrote:
Socke picking Steppes of war and cheesing like he did is equivalent to admitting he's an inferior player who can't take on HuK in a straight up match.

While I agree that he's not in the same skill-class, it's is very disappointing that he didn't even try to prove himself given such a nice opportunity. I used to really like Socke but he just lost points here...

Let's hope Ret wins this now! In his last interviews, it sure sounded like he'd need such a motivation boost.


He beat Huk in a straight up match in game 1... pretty handily i might add. He lost okay, that doesn't mean hes bad, that doesn't mean anything. Socke is a good player and played some pretty amazing games against Huk. And on the topic of the cheese that he pulled, it was executed really well, and even when huk had cannons up for defense socke kept his cool and picked off the vulnerable buildings. He played really well.
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
February 12 2011 16:20 GMT
#3427
GO RET!! I hope Ret will win this Hes such a beast..
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
February 12 2011 16:20 GMT
#3428
Oh man I am just imagining:
Khaldor - main play-by-play
Take - Presentation/Interviews/Background
Darkforce - Strategic Analysis
....
would easily rival MBC's casting standards
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
February 12 2011 16:20 GMT
#3429
On February 13 2011 01:19 Tachion wrote:
Ret will freaking destroy if he gets a ZvZ finals, so here's hoping

Morrow is pretty good in zvz, watch his game against Julyzerg if you haven't already.
BatCat
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Austria630 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 16:21:52
February 12 2011 16:20 GMT
#3430
no terrans in top 4, everyone happy now?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
February 12 2011 16:20 GMT
#3431
If people are interested in TF2, semifinals going on right now:

http://www.own3d.tv/live/2592

Epsilon vs PwR gaming, second map starting soon.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Vira
Profile Joined November 2010
573 Posts
February 12 2011 16:20 GMT
#3432
Adel just told us in French stream as a joke "Socke will beat morrow, I will win ret then we do a fucking pvp in finale :D"
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
February 12 2011 16:21 GMT
#3433
Cant wait to see ret in the semis
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Lucius2
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany548 Posts
February 12 2011 16:21 GMT
#3434
On February 13 2011 01:18 fishinguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 01:14 gnutz wrote:
On February 13 2011 01:08 ZlaSHeR wrote:
No terrans in Final 4, suprising all things considered, with the level of terrans in Europe

Actually i think ca. 90 % of the top Terrans were overrated. Kas, Sjow and maybe Strelok and Naama are the only ones who were everytime on the top. Just look at play by some terrans like SarenS - he had worse macro than Grubby.
There is much too learn for Terrans from now on, Protoss learned to play against them. Zerg most likely also. Maps will make it much worse.
I honestly dont expect many Terran Winners in the next big european tournaments.



Or terran will get biffed . Toss didnt exactly learn"to play vs terran on their own, they too were buffed along the way, and terran was nerfed.


then you obviously didnt follow what dustin browder had to say about terran lately. and tell me 1 unit that got buffed for protoss vs terran...
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
February 12 2011 16:21 GMT
#3435
On February 13 2011 01:16 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 01:09 Exarl25 wrote:
On February 13 2011 01:05 homer001 wrote:
this is teamliquid
of coz the majority people in here will be rooting for huk


There is a difference between supporting TL players and insulting anyone they lose to.

The former is expected but the latter is juvenile and reflects badly on the whole community.


I haven't seen too many insults really.

Unless you find it insulting to call that last game "strategy" cheese (and on the worst map imaginable). Or that people consider Huk to be a better player regardless of losing, which is a very valid opinion to have.

I wasn't that upset when Jinro lost to MC in the GSL, because at that point it kind of made sense and MC was clearly the better player. But I'm gutted that once again Huk gets punished for the smallest of mistakes and loses in the worst possible way, and yes it does seem unfair from my (fan) point of view.


the problem is that cheese is used by all players because you sometimes got to switch it up.
i dont know if u follow broodwar but even starleague winners used CHEESE in the final just to throw of people right from the start or in the last match where nobody would expect that.

i seriously do not enjoy the trend to bash every player that uses a cheesy strategy in a longer series -.-
FTD
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 12 2011 16:21 GMT
#3436
I watched that last game of morrow from his screen and it was totally insane, he probably had over 400 apm in the last half of the game and he did things like using the f-keys, cloned all his mutas to catch the banshee that killed 6, baneling mines and such... I really think he can win this
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
February 12 2011 16:21 GMT
#3437
I really hope we can see a ZvP finals and bronze map.

So much better than a PvP and ZvZ. As for players, i'm hoping for Ret v Socke, with Ret winning it all. For bronze i'm hoping for Adelscot since his play recently has been really solid.

Funny we all know who idra is NOT rooting for .
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
February 12 2011 16:21 GMT
#3438
On February 13 2011 01:17 dookudooku wrote:
I also think Huk was overconfident coming into this tournament, as evidenced by his unsolid play the 1st game.


HuK played amazing games all tournament long. Socke outplayed him in their first match with brilliant micro. HuK outplayed Socke in the second match. HuK made mistakes in game 3.
#TeamBuLba
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
February 12 2011 16:21 GMT
#3439
On February 13 2011 01:20 dookudooku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 01:17 CursedFeanor wrote:
Socke picking Steppes of war and cheesing like he did is equivalent to admitting he's an inferior player who can't take on HuK in a straight up match.

While I agree that he's not in the same skill-class, it's is very disappointing that he didn't even try to prove himself given such a nice opportunity. I used to really like Socke but he just lost points here...

Let's hope Ret wins this now! In his last interviews, it sure sounded like he'd need such a motivation boost.


It means Huk's metagame is weak, and his is too dependent on his mechanics and micro. But unless you are 10x better than your opponent at that, you can't overcome a serious deficiency in the metagame.


I don't think you know the meaning of the word metagame.
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
February 12 2011 16:21 GMT
#3440
On February 13 2011 01:19 Tachion wrote:
Ret will freaking destroy if he gets a ZvZ finals, so here's hoping


Morrow beat Ret in their last match. Was only BO 1 but still.
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