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ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
February 05 2011 22:42 GMT
#861
just look at how insanely cost effective tier-1 + medivacs are versus protoss tier-1.5. Why would you ever want to go mech?
Hello=)
Copenap
Profile Joined October 2010
723 Posts
February 05 2011 22:42 GMT
#862
He just shouldn't have lost 3 Immortals... If you know you can't win the battle, at least delay the opponents army with some units that will die either way, no need to give them away for nothing.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 22:44:09
February 05 2011 22:42 GMT
#863
Like David kim said at Blizzcon,"let's say you have 4 or 5 gates on 1 base. Then you can make 10 gateways on 2 bases, and 15 gateways on 3 bases."

Unfortunately stimmed marauders are very good against gateway units. He should have gone all the way with gateway units, including Forge & Twilight upgrades.

edit: no gas = no sentries
o choro é livre
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
February 05 2011 22:42 GMT
#864
On February 06 2011 07:41 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 07:40 nenji wrote:
On February 06 2011 07:38 Vezex wrote:
ThorZaiN fighting!

teach those toss that only terran can mass T1 ;D


yeah game 2 and 3 perfectly shows us how right u are :/


medivacs aren't t1...

Also, it's not like Adel went anything higher than gateway units for a huge amount of time...and then loses 3 immortals being out of position.
the farm ends here
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
February 05 2011 22:42 GMT
#865
Really shows what bullshit the colossuss imba idea is at least in PvP. It clearly leaves a big timing window to crush in before critical mass is achieved and shows how low-tech plus + flanking crushes it. This is in reference to the kiwikaki vs adelscott series.
White-Ra fighting!
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3511 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 22:43:07
February 05 2011 22:42 GMT
#866
@ParasitJonte: Because he never had more than one colussus at once...?
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 22:45:44
February 05 2011 22:43 GMT
#867
On February 06 2011 07:40 Odoakar wrote:
Even Gold doesn't help against MMM. Still, a nice game


stupid comment. he had no gas ,no sentrys/tech, mass minerals banked and lost all his immortals + quite a lot other units for nothing.



he had the game perfectly in his hand. the drops and the total lack of any gas plus the huge losses in the middle made the big comeback possible. sad to see adelscott after playing amazing at the start of each game throw a (dominating) lead away 2 times now :/



On February 06 2011 07:42 ParasitJonte wrote:
just look at how insanely cost effective tier-1 + medivacs are versus protoss tier-1.5. Why would you ever want to go mech?



you beat bio with gas. be it collosus,templar,upgrades or sentries with guardian and mass forcefields.

adelscott had nothing of that all AND was behind in pure supply. what do you expect in such a situation?
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
February 05 2011 22:43 GMT
#868
On February 06 2011 07:42 ParasitJonte wrote:
just look at how insanely cost effective tier-1 + medivacs are versus protoss tier-1.5. Why would you ever want to go mech?


Depends on the map, if there's a lot of chokes mech can be better even though MMM is way too good compared to mech usually.
Serashin
Profile Joined November 2010
235 Posts
February 05 2011 22:43 GMT
#869
I dont get how such a bad PvT toss aka Adelscott is in the finals you dont go mass gateway against Terran without forge and council
There are to many targets , and i smile everytime they try to defend and thinking they are smart.
traca
Profile Joined October 2010
146 Posts
February 05 2011 22:43 GMT
#870
hmm retreating vs terran doesnt look so good
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
February 05 2011 22:43 GMT
#871
Is this the same Thorzain from WC3?
Vorlik
Profile Joined October 2010
1522 Posts
February 05 2011 22:44 GMT
#872
nice to see Adel all quiet now.
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
February 05 2011 22:44 GMT
#873
Adel got himself heavily supply blocked in this game...

Also didn't spend his money on gateways...

Adel really should've won that game, I just hope he can work on his mechanics, because I really like his strategic play and style.
ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
February 05 2011 22:44 GMT
#874
sentry + zealot + stalker + immortal doesn't cut it versus MMM. It does cut it versus MM. But when terran gets medivacs you desperately need colossi or high templar. There is no other way.
Hello=)
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
February 05 2011 22:44 GMT
#875
Thorzain should get credit for handling the harass very well. Much better than adel did when he returned the favor.
Karakaxe
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden585 Posts
February 05 2011 22:44 GMT
#876
On February 06 2011 07:43 nGBeast wrote:
Is this the same Thorzain from WC3?


The Human player yes
Sword of Omens, give me sight beyond sight.
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
February 05 2011 22:45 GMT
#877
Adel has stopped asking "why no tanks", that's what's wrong.
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
February 05 2011 22:45 GMT
#878
On February 06 2011 07:44 Karakaxe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 07:43 nGBeast wrote:
Is this the same Thorzain from WC3?


The Human player yes


Oh shit no way, one the best and most mannered players I had the fortune to meet, such a gentleman in WGS.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
February 05 2011 22:46 GMT
#879
On February 06 2011 07:44 ParasitJonte wrote:
sentry + zealot + stalker + immortal doesn't cut it versus MMM. It does cut it versus MM. But when terran gets medivacs you desperately need colossi or high templar. There is no other way.

Perhaps...but Adel had 0 sentries (made maybe 2 or 3 the entire match....), 1.2k worth of zealots he could have made...and let 3 immortals die without letting off a single shot.

The scrap match is a hugely stupid example to use when saying MMM is too strong, Adel didn't take his assimilators at his natural, 0 gas 1k+ minerals and not even making zealots to make up for that.
the farm ends here
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
February 05 2011 22:49 GMT
#880
Bunkers are so dumb. Remove Salvage please.

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