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Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
January 26 2011 11:33 GMT
#1021
well at least we can all try if PDD can stop queen attacks lolololol
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
imbs
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom320 Posts
January 26 2011 11:33 GMT
#1022


Didn't IdrA say that Meta cross positions is insta-win for Zerg though? Also Blistering Sands when the rocks are down seems very hard to win as a Terran as well, but yeah the maps are really poor. I'm sure it's going to get fixed and when the time comes Zergs are going to dominate, because they are the most used to being in a bad spot.


no, idra said something like he would win easily against x if they got cross instead of close, where he lost.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-26 11:34:02
January 26 2011 11:33 GMT
#1023
On January 26 2011 20:31 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 20:25 HolyArrow wrote:
On January 26 2011 20:24 Ysellian wrote:
On January 26 2011 20:23 HolyArrow wrote:
It's ridiculous how often ZvTs end up with the worst possible positions on their supposed "good" maps vs T. I'm really getting sick of it. Yeah, totally random, variance, blah blah, but still. It's stupid.

You should have seen Moon yesterday. He got everything his way and still managed to lose


Haha. I'm actually a pretty big Moon fan. Despite losing, he seems to have improved greatly since his GSL 3 appearance and he probably still doesn't play SC2 full-time. Looking forward to seeing how good he gets.


Yeah he has the talent and he was pretty close to beating Hongun.

Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 20:25 5unrise wrote:

yeah well considering "good" maps for zerg doesn't actually imply advantage but only a semblance of balance, how on earth can zerg manage to lose???? >_>


Didn't IdrA say that Meta cross positions is insta-win for Zerg though? Also Blistering Sands when the rocks are down seems very hard to win as a Terran as well, but yeah the maps are really poor. I'm sure it's going to get fixed and when the time comes Zergs are going to dominate, because they are the most used to being in a bad spot.

Cross positions seems to be really good for zerg, but close positions in code S went 11-4 in favor of terran with 1 loss being jinro trying to 2base against nex.drug and another being nada's cute thor shit vs idra. Metal seems to be at least 70%+ (random number don't rape me) determined by starting positions. It's a bad TvZ map.
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 26 2011 11:33 GMT
#1024
On January 26 2011 20:31 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 20:25 HolyArrow wrote:
On January 26 2011 20:24 Ysellian wrote:
On January 26 2011 20:23 HolyArrow wrote:
It's ridiculous how often ZvTs end up with the worst possible positions on their supposed "good" maps vs T. I'm really getting sick of it. Yeah, totally random, variance, blah blah, but still. It's stupid.

You should have seen Moon yesterday. He got everything his way and still managed to lose


Haha. I'm actually a pretty big Moon fan. Despite losing, he seems to have improved greatly since his GSL 3 appearance and he probably still doesn't play SC2 full-time. Looking forward to seeing how good he gets.


Yeah he has the talent and he was pretty close to beating Hongun.

Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 20:25 5unrise wrote:

yeah well considering "good" maps for zerg doesn't actually imply advantage but only a semblance of balance, how on earth can zerg manage to lose???? >_>


Didn't IdrA say that Meta cross positions is insta-win for Zerg though? Also Blistering Sands when the rocks are down seems very hard to win as a Terran as well, but yeah the maps are really poor. I'm sure it's going to get fixed and when the time comes Zergs are going to dominate, because they are the most used to being in a bad spot.


Idra said: Close autolose, cross autowin. Not completely true, but its not quite a given as Jungle vs Zerran.

Blistering, in the GSL anyway, tends to favor whoever rushes better.
SetStndbySmn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States657 Posts
January 26 2011 11:33 GMT
#1025
cycle of the terran metagame: maka does stuff that doesn't work-> other terrans then make them work
"He doesn't operate under some divine shroud that lets him determine what is or is not valid culture. He cannot rob you, retroactively, of wholly valid experiences; he cannot transform them into worthless things." - Tycho
zivac
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia389 Posts
January 26 2011 11:34 GMT
#1026
at least we got 2 pvz's today instead of mirror matches
willz22912
Profile Joined November 2010
United States255 Posts
January 26 2011 11:34 GMT
#1027
PDD eats Queen attack, but with 3+ queens out the energy gets eaten up pretty decently + with transfuses you could survive the PDD, FD woulda still been fine, + mutas were coming.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
January 26 2011 11:34 GMT
#1028
On January 26 2011 20:32 Breach_hu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 20:32 HolyArrow wrote:
On January 26 2011 20:29 MrCon wrote:
Both Fruitdealer and Maka don't deserve code S based on their current play, they both play bad since season 2.
Since fruitdealer lost to foxer in season 2 he did nothing, did not train, played bad in general.
Maka it's the same, as this game demonstrate he's just bad.


What's with these stupid comments? FD and Maka are probably both better than most (if not all) Code A players. What exactly is the "standard" for Code S?


not to make completely awful builds which is countered to gg.


I think Maka was just trying to do something that could have been quite strong but ended up being countered perfectly. I don't see people giving Boxer flak for losing to Nestea because Nestea barely blocked him from landing his barracks. Getting a build perfectly countered in 1 game =/= not code S material.
Jieun
Profile Joined October 2010
United States247 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-26 11:35:05
January 26 2011 11:34 GMT
#1029
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Point_Defense_Drone

Maka's build actually looks like it would work if you get the timing right. You could kill all the queens with the Banshees and deny any evo chamber/spire from going down or just straight up kill the drones.
LoCaD
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-26 11:37:10
January 26 2011 11:35 GMT
#1030
pdd should work on Queens I think .... have to check that to be completly sure somebody more info.
I give up, I just don't know what to write here.
CPTslut
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany98 Posts
January 26 2011 11:35 GMT
#1031
On January 26 2011 20:32 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 20:31 MrCon wrote:
On January 26 2011 20:30 banhxeo wrote:
Wait, does PDD stop queen attacks?

I think yes.

No xD
Ranged units who also have a melee attack animation, such as a Queen or Hydralisk will not trigger Point Defense Laser when using the alternate animation.


Hydralisk has a melee attack animation?? Sounds like BS, but Blizzard is known for BS.
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
January 26 2011 11:35 GMT
#1032
On January 26 2011 20:34 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 20:32 Breach_hu wrote:
On January 26 2011 20:32 HolyArrow wrote:
On January 26 2011 20:29 MrCon wrote:
Both Fruitdealer and Maka don't deserve code S based on their current play, they both play bad since season 2.
Since fruitdealer lost to foxer in season 2 he did nothing, did not train, played bad in general.
Maka it's the same, as this game demonstrate he's just bad.


What's with these stupid comments? FD and Maka are probably both better than most (if not all) Code A players. What exactly is the "standard" for Code S?


not to make completely awful builds which is countered to gg.


I think Maka was just trying to do something that could have been quite strong but ended up being countered perfectly. I don't see people giving Boxer flak for losing to Nestea because Nestea barely blocked him from landing his barracks. Getting a build perfectly countered in 1 game =/= not code S material.


but you know, he could build more turrets, vikings marines bunkers, not to lose the first few mutas.
Give thanks and praise!
sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
January 26 2011 11:35 GMT
#1033
You know, I like Maka, not the best player, but a tournament without Maka
@
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
January 26 2011 11:35 GMT
#1034
On January 26 2011 20:35 CPTslut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 20:32 MrCon wrote:
On January 26 2011 20:31 MrCon wrote:
On January 26 2011 20:30 banhxeo wrote:
Wait, does PDD stop queen attacks?

I think yes.

No xD
Ranged units who also have a melee attack animation, such as a Queen or Hydralisk will not trigger Point Defense Laser when using the alternate animation.


Hydralisk has a melee attack animation?? Sounds like BS, but Blizzard is known for BS.

The hydralisk does have a melee attack animation, but the other part of his post is BS.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
January 26 2011 11:36 GMT
#1035
On January 26 2011 20:35 LoCaD wrote:
pdd should work on Queens I think .... have to check that to be completly sure somebody more info.


I was under the impression that the PDD works on any ranged attack that actually shows a projectile being shot. So, it wouldn't work on marines, immortals, etc. but would work on hydras and queens.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
January 26 2011 11:36 GMT
#1036
On January 26 2011 20:35 CPTslut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 20:32 MrCon wrote:
On January 26 2011 20:31 MrCon wrote:
On January 26 2011 20:30 banhxeo wrote:
Wait, does PDD stop queen attacks?

I think yes.

No xD
Ranged units who also have a melee attack animation, such as a Queen or Hydralisk will not trigger Point Defense Laser when using the alternate animation.


Hydralisk has a melee attack animation?? Sounds like BS, but Blizzard is known for BS.

Yeah it's had it from the beginning, has to be in melee range though and when would that ever happen o.O
posting on liquid sites in current year
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
January 26 2011 11:36 GMT
#1037
On January 26 2011 20:35 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 20:35 CPTslut wrote:
On January 26 2011 20:32 MrCon wrote:
On January 26 2011 20:31 MrCon wrote:
On January 26 2011 20:30 banhxeo wrote:
Wait, does PDD stop queen attacks?

I think yes.

No xD
Ranged units who also have a melee attack animation, such as a Queen or Hydralisk will not trigger Point Defense Laser when using the alternate animation.


Hydralisk has a melee attack animation?? Sounds like BS, but Blizzard is known for BS.

The hydralisk does have a melee attack animation, but the other part of his post is BS.

I quoted liquipedia :'(
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
January 26 2011 11:36 GMT
#1038
On January 26 2011 20:35 CPTslut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 20:32 MrCon wrote:
On January 26 2011 20:31 MrCon wrote:
On January 26 2011 20:30 banhxeo wrote:
Wait, does PDD stop queen attacks?

I think yes.

No xD
Ranged units who also have a melee attack animation, such as a Queen or Hydralisk will not trigger Point Defense Laser when using the alternate animation.


Hydralisk has a melee attack animation?? Sounds like BS, but Blizzard is known for BS.


:D
- ಠ_ಠ - | disinfect wrote: AHAHHAHAHA 2DG FUCK ME ALREADY.
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
January 26 2011 11:37 GMT
#1039
maka is awful. period.
Give thanks and praise!
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 26 2011 11:37 GMT
#1040
Poll: Recommend Fruitdealer vs Maka Game 2?

No (20)
 
53%

Yes (12)
 
32%

If you have time (6)
 
16%

38 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Fruitdealer vs Maka Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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