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On January 27 2011 15:06 ChThoniC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 11:00 Shinta) wrote:On January 27 2011 09:56 ChThoniC wrote:On January 27 2011 09:20 Huckleuro wrote:On January 27 2011 09:16 netherDrake wrote:
Terran is favoured over zerg in many maps which is why the results are skewed towards terran.
That being said, Nestea being the only zerg in a sea of terran (and no protoss) not only in the Gainward Tournament but the GSL too shows how good he really is.
Agree. Results scream that Nestea is just by far and away the best zerg out there at the moment. It's like NesTea, big gap, IdrA, gap, then a bunch of other Z players that basically can't overcome ZvT. People of TL give IdrA too much credit. He was lucky to take a game off Jinro. Jinro is a good player, granted, but in all honesty I have confidence that IdrA can continue qualifying for events, but after the qualification stage is over, I have no faith in him advancing further. I would give other Zergs the benefit of the doubt, depending on how they play in the earlier rounds, whereas I would not give that benefit to IdrA. He's good but his foolish way of thinking will block him from truly getting better than ro32/ro16 standards. Instead of looking at his way of thinking, just look at his play. No other Zerg is as good or as consistent as him season after season, and he is only getting better and better results. His overall play is second to only NesTea, and I don't think it's particularly close.
Exactly. I love his consistency.
If Jinro hadn't cheesed i doubt he'd have pulled out the series. But who knows. Forever unanswered i guess. ^^
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Very happy with the results. All the best players are going up, all the guys who lucked out are going down.
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Do you really consider Maka as a player who "lucked out"?
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On January 27 2011 09:11 aisight wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 08:18 Huckleuro wrote:On January 27 2011 05:31 DoubleReed wrote:On January 27 2011 03:34 Huckleuro wrote:On January 26 2011 21:15 nihlon wrote:On January 26 2011 21:10 Huckleuro wrote:On January 26 2011 20:48 IdrA wrote:On January 26 2011 20:45 SushilS wrote:On January 26 2011 20:41 ControlMonkey wrote:
I'm sooo glad to see FruitDealer go through. So much potential, as long as he doesn't shoot himself in the foot. Yeah. He needs to get his shit in Line... GSL Code S is not a place to be breezing around drinking and snowboarding instead of putting in the practice. Its just like sC SaiD, to beat him you'd have had to practice... NesTea and IdrA are def at a different level from FD now imo... practice doesnt win you games with zerg luck does Smart of him to be having fun instead of wasting his time Out of interest IdrA, do you think you have ever beaten a legit top player in a GOM series since GSL1? I guess luck must be majorly on NesTea' Side yea? Hes doing pretty well in nearly all of the comps he enters? No? He's already SaiD that basically NesTea Only got this far in the current gsl by the luck of the draw. Not because he bad but zerg obviously. Total rubbish. So NesTea reaching those other finals recently, on top of his GSL win + final 4 were Lucky draws also? There has been 1 protoss prosper in Gsl and generally, there have been more zers. Quit the whines, gebeter Yes, that is what IdrA has SaiD. IdrA SaiD that NesTea is a Really Really good player. He's not trying to take that away from him or his success. He's simply saying that if you look at the players he's played, it's usually somebody who isn't nearly at his skill level or a ZvZ. Hence, NesTea got to where he is by luck of the brackets. His Point still stands regardless of NesTea's skill level. No it doesnt. Take a look at the other tournies that NesTea has got to the finals (or even won?) recently, taking out numerous top players. TvZ is pretty harsh in the metagame right now, yes. But generally i dont think zergs can argue that they are underpowered in comparison to toss and terran. Are you talking about the finals that went something like 1:  MVP2:  NesTea3: MarineKing4: Bleach5: NaDa5: GanZi5: TOP5: Ryungout of 32 players, 10 of which were Zerg? Because I think that's a great argument of potential imbalance somewhere.
Yes, that proves Protoss needs love hahaha
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Maka looked like he belonged in Code A (along with Rain) from the games last night, even if it was against FruitDealer.
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Anyone know the results from groups A-D? I can't find them anywhere.
edit: nevermind i found them 
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So fruitdealer Scfou, Kyrix and July advance? if so I can not wait to see Tushin tear it up in Code S
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On January 27 2011 09:39 stormtemplar wrote:
I want to state something. Nestea has never lost a ZvZ or ZvP in GSL. Ever. No zerg or toss has taken a game off of him. Ever. Terran is the ONLY race to do so. What this tells me is Nestea is INCREDIBLY GOOD. In the other two matchups which no one really argues are imba (ZvP is okayish and ZvZ is always balanced, duh) he has not dropped a single game. And yet, he drops quite a few games to terran. I see a problem here.
There are also a lot more top tier terran than there are protoss atm.
The only protoss on the level of Nestea atm is MC, whereas for Terran I could count several of them off the top of my head.
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On January 27 2011 15:28 ThaZenith wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 15:06 ChThoniC wrote:On January 27 2011 11:00 Shinta) wrote:On January 27 2011 09:56 ChThoniC wrote:On January 27 2011 09:20 Huckleuro wrote:On January 27 2011 09:16 netherDrake wrote:
Terran is favoured over zerg in many maps which is why the results are skewed towards terran.
That being said, Nestea being the only zerg in a sea of terran (and no protoss) not only in the Gainward Tournament but the GSL too shows how good he really is.
Agree. Results scream that Nestea is just by far and away the best zerg out there at the moment. It's like NesTea, big gap, IdrA, gap, then a bunch of other Z players that basically can't overcome ZvT. People of TL give IdrA too much credit. He was lucky to take a game off Jinro. Jinro is a good player, granted, but in all honesty I have confidence that IdrA can continue qualifying for events, but after the qualification stage is over, I have no faith in him advancing further. I would give other Zergs the benefit of the doubt, depending on how they play in the earlier rounds, whereas I would not give that benefit to IdrA. He's good but his foolish way of thinking will block him from truly getting better than ro32/ro16 standards. Instead of looking at his way of thinking, just look at his play. No other Zerg is as good or as consistent as him season after season, and he is only getting better and better results. His overall play is second to only NesTea, and I don't think it's particularly close. Exactly. I love his consistency. If Jinro hadn't cheesed i doubt he'd have pulled out the series. But who knows. Forever unanswered i guess. ^^
that is, if you consider GSL the only thing that counts.
+ Show Spoiler +oh well, thinking about it, never heard of any zergs making it far in any other leagues, too. GSL is the only league where zerg stands a chance.
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On January 28 2011 00:42 Dalavita wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 09:39 stormtemplar wrote:
I want to state something. Nestea has never lost a ZvZ or ZvP in GSL. Ever. No zerg or toss has taken a game off of him. Ever. Terran is the ONLY race to do so. What this tells me is Nestea is INCREDIBLY GOOD. In the other two matchups which no one really argues are imba (ZvP is okayish and ZvZ is always balanced, duh) he has not dropped a single game. And yet, he drops quite a few games to terran. I see a problem here. There are also a lot more top tier terran than there are protoss atm. The only protoss on the level of Nestea atm is MC, whereas for Terran I could count several of them off the top of my head.
And what do you think terrans will respond with? Oh wait I know...
"It's the players not the race, terran players are just simply better." Mmmhmm
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Well fruitdealers game were fun to watch...really high skill level from sC
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Raven-Banshee? Preach, Artosis!
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Ok, on to set 2!
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Priceless looks from Tasteosis :D
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I'm confused I went to the GOMTV website and I looked at the schedule and it looks like a team tournament is currently going on? I could be wrong but how did the last season win? Did they do another $87,000 prize or did it skip it this season because of how it's now structured into the divisions? I'm confused. Or if anyone has a link explaining this I'd appreciate it. Thanks
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