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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
January 15 2011 22:31 GMT
#3821
On January 16 2011 07:11 Dionyseus wrote:
MC getting eliminated could be very bad for SC2's chances in Korea.

He isn't that popular, what are you talking about
sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 22:35:07
January 15 2011 22:34 GMT
#3822
On January 16 2011 07:27 -Archangel- wrote: To me that seemed a bit strange to say the least... almost as he was trying to fail.


You're a troll, aren't you?

On January 15 2011 17:46 Kennigit wrote:
Suggesting that MC threw the game instead of playing sloppy is now bannable. Plexa and i will be working our way backwards to murder culprits. This would be a good time to edit your shit.


Please refrain from making such comments, cuz, you know, the mods are watching.
@
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
January 15 2011 22:38 GMT
#3823
On January 16 2011 07:27 -Archangel- wrote:
I didn't follow this thread yesterday and cannot read 191 pages :D
So I am wondering if anyone discussed Jinro vs MC game 1, where MC attacks jinro with a lot of units (including like 4-5 sentry) and UNLIKE any other game I have watched when he attacks terrans he does not FF around the bunker and scvs manage to repair it (and casters even say how he managed to keep the bunker alive). To me that seemed a bit strange to say the least... almost as he was trying to fail.


I made a comment on page 190 toward the bottom. No one responded so I don't know if I am right on this.

Also, yeah. I wouldn't continue down the road your last statement implies.
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 22:43:03
January 15 2011 22:40 GMT
#3824
On January 15 2011 21:53 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 21:49 dunc wrote:
On January 15 2011 21:21 Whiteman103 wrote:
On January 15 2011 21:12 noD wrote:
sooo happy
now I think it has 3 possibilities
1) the IM guys wins
2) Jinro wins
3) foxer wins

still i think IM guys have more chance than jinro and jinro way more than foxed =DDDD


i tihnk 6 of the 8 can win all but Foxer and Choya.


ya the guy who has been consistantly placing top4 in every korean tournament has no way of winning the gsl

oh wait, your hate for foxer doesnt mean he cant win it all

I didnt think Foxer would win but he showed today he can make siege tanks, so now I think he could!

(:D)


rofl

There's also a couple of games of last season where he does thor drops!! Although I forgot against who, those games were pretty entertaining.

I'm glad my 2 favourite players got through at least, I thought only one would because of MC.

On January 16 2011 07:12 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 06:34 jdreamer wrote:
I think the current best players are still MC, Clides and MVP. Others are close to their levels as well.

Haha are people serious about Clide? Because we can quite safely say definitely isn't even top 3 terran based on his performance in quite a few tournaments


Yeah, I have nothing against Clide because he's a solid player but I'm glad he's out just because the commentators are beyond irritating everytime he plays a game.
Basshoven792
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7 Posts
January 15 2011 22:42 GMT
#3825
Jinro made an otherwise lackluster season 3 my favourite yet. Now with two foreigners to cheer on and the games getting better this one exceeds even that.
. . . _
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
January 15 2011 22:45 GMT
#3826
Jinro really seems to be a fan favortie in korea. I mean, the crowd reaction when he won game 1 and game 2 is awesome

And about MC not FFing the bunker in game 1, it would have done more harm than good, if he FF the bunker he traps himself in a choke and he can't go up the ramp anymore, and there are tanks and marines on the cliff. I think he quickly understood that the push failed, perhaps it made him not play his best. Rewatching the games now, it was really one of the best GSL days ever (yeah, we say this everyday this week =) ) Everything was "special" today, builds, winners, crowd...awesome :D
seffer
Profile Joined December 2010
United States143 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 22:45:51
January 15 2011 22:45 GMT
#3827
I think it says something that after leaving Foxer's base with 3 medivacs full of marines, Jinro still almost lost his entire army once he engaged MarineKing. The hate is unwarranted.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
January 15 2011 22:45 GMT
#3828
OMMMMGGGGGGG.

Never in my wildest dream could have I imagined that Jinro would be able to 2-0 MC.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
January 15 2011 22:46 GMT
#3829
On January 16 2011 05:32 sqrt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 05:22 ShyRamen wrote:

i have been reading that few nights ago MK beat all OGS, what you guys referring to ? what games were they ? where can i find em ? :<


I know it was in the team leagues, but I have no idea where a link can be.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184239

Basically MK did a reverse all-kill. His team came from 0-3 down to beat OGS 4-3 with MK beating all the OGS members which inluded Zenio, Top, MC and Hero.
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 22:50:08
January 15 2011 22:49 GMT
#3830
On January 16 2011 07:45 MrCon wrote:
Jinro really seems to be a fan favortie in korea. I mean, the crowd reaction when he won game 1 and game 2 is awesome

And about MC not FFing the bunker in game 1, it would have done more harm than good, if he FF the bunker he traps himself in a choke and he can't go up the ramp anymore, and there are tanks and marines on the cliff. I think he quickly understood that the push failed, perhaps it made him not play his best. Rewatching the games now, it was really one of the best GSL days ever (yeah, we say this everyday this week =) ) Everything was "special" today, builds, winners, crowd...awesome :D


Except the games with Rainbow

On January 16 2011 07:46 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 05:32 sqrt wrote:
On January 16 2011 05:22 ShyRamen wrote:

i have been reading that few nights ago MK beat all OGS, what you guys referring to ? what games were they ? where can i find em ? :<


I know it was in the team leagues, but I have no idea where a link can be.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184239

Basically MK did a reverse all-kill. His team came from 0-3 down to beat OGS 4-3 with MK beating all the OGS members which inluded Zenio, Top, MC and Hero.


He also placed third in the korean tournament held recently, with many code s players like fruitdealer/nestea/mvp

Average terran right there!!
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 23:05:47
January 15 2011 22:54 GMT
#3831
On January 16 2011 07:11 Dionyseus wrote:
MC getting eliminated could be very bad for SC2's chances in Korea.


Not really. MC had no star power prior to winning GSL3. It wasn't even dramatic, unlike Fruitdealer's victory.

I would argue that MarineKing and Rainbow are just as well known, if not more so than MC.

MarineKing's run in GSL2 had a strong impact on the metagame and was more notable than MC's GSL3 run as MarineKing eliminated tournament favorites Fruitdealer and Rainbow. His Bo7 grand final series against NesTea was a lot more memorable than MC's roflstomp against Rain. Furthermore, that "fake Boxer" fiasco generated a lot of interest in MarineKing.

Rainbow used to be a very famous SC1 player, best known for his reaver usage and impact on the Protoss metagame. He was one of the original SKT players along with Oov and Boxer, the first of SKT Protoss dynasty. Rainbow also made to the final and Ro4 of GSL 1 and 2, respectively.

Jinro is a foreigner. That fact alone is truly crucial if GOM indeed intends for the GSL to become a global tournament. I would argue that the presence of foreigners is much more important than the survival of a former champion.

So really, all four guys in this group are pretty crucial and got a lot of star power backing them. Regardless of the final result, it won't hurt GSL by much. The only thing that would really hurt GSL is if Boxer goes out early.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
January 15 2011 22:58 GMT
#3832
Yeah, I don't see any link between MC and SC2 chances in Korea. MC doesn't even seems to be very popular, the crowd reaction in both jinro-MC's games speaks for itself.
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 23:09:23
January 15 2011 23:08 GMT
#3833
Where can i find the rules for GSL?? is Ro8 Bo5 or Bo3 ?

edit: nm found it
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=417258
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 15 2011 23:12 GMT
#3834
I don't really understand when it became impossible for players not to play perfectly. It's like everytime a player makes a mistake it must be match fixing. So disgusting from guys.

Anyway great day today. Awesome games awesome Jinro and awesome rematch incoming!
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
January 15 2011 23:16 GMT
#3835
On January 16 2011 05:49 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I have a question about people talking about MC's FF decision versus Jinro in their first game versus his usage of FF against Rainbow. Now I don't actually have access to the VOD so I will try to base this on memory so correct me if I am wrong.

Rainbow had 4 bunkers all filled with marines with little to no mech back up and SCV's inbound as the push was commenced.

Jinro had 2-3 bunks with 1-2 actually containing marines, but also had siege tanks on both high and low ground giving support. Plus sent a considerable amount of SCV's for follow up repair. MC I believe chose to spend energy on Guardian Shield.

Retrospective is always 20/20, but in the heat of the moment GS wouldn't have been such a bad decision considering his was mainly zealot/sentry with a few immortals. trying to marginalize the damage the marines could do to the immortals in the few bunkers that were able to be complete and defend at least some of the tank damage to the sentry's and zealots wouldn't have been such a bad thing. Especially if the immortals (and future backup) could come back to clean up the tanks.

Spending FF to block bunker repair would have left the sentries and zealots vulnerable to raw tanking and Jinro could have chosen to repair tanks anyway.

Again, if I am WAY off in my recollection I apologize.

He had 1 bunker with rines in it and 2 or 3 tanks, I believe only 1(the highground one) not being lifted. He also had enough sentries to both GS and FF, given the choice between the two, obviously FF is by far more important, since what's 33% mitigation if you can't break the front anyway. It was horrible play, followed by probably a more devastating play when jinro hellion dropped him. It was bad on semi-pro level, on MC level... He *cough* choked hard.
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
January 15 2011 23:37 GMT
#3836
Congrats Jinro- keep fighting the good fight. Rooting for you
Pbartender
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands55 Posts
January 15 2011 23:47 GMT
#3837
Wow, Jinro took two games from MC – in a row. And not even cheesing or something.

I must say, I tremendously enjoyed the RO16. There have been almost no "bad" games, I was entertained throughout. Sure, not every game was extremely close – MVP and Choya dominated their group, for example –, but every day had at least half the games being exciting. If that's the kind of quality I can hope for with RO32 over time (you know, without Sad Zenith et al), I'm a very happy camper.
In my head, I'm a 1500 Diamond player. In reality, I don't even know what that means. I don't play SC2. I just watch.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
January 15 2011 23:50 GMT
#3838
On January 16 2011 07:45 MrCon wrote:
And about MC not FFing the bunker in game 1, it would have done more harm than good, if he FF the bunker he traps himself in a choke and he can't go up the ramp anymore, and there are tanks and marines on the cliff.

Bingo.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 16 2011 00:09 GMT
#3839
On January 16 2011 08:16 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 05:49 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I have a question about people talking about MC's FF decision versus Jinro in their first game versus his usage of FF against Rainbow. Now I don't actually have access to the VOD so I will try to base this on memory so correct me if I am wrong.

Rainbow had 4 bunkers all filled with marines with little to no mech back up and SCV's inbound as the push was commenced.

Jinro had 2-3 bunks with 1-2 actually containing marines, but also had siege tanks on both high and low ground giving support. Plus sent a considerable amount of SCV's for follow up repair. MC I believe chose to spend energy on Guardian Shield.

Retrospective is always 20/20, but in the heat of the moment GS wouldn't have been such a bad decision considering his was mainly zealot/sentry with a few immortals. trying to marginalize the damage the marines could do to the immortals in the few bunkers that were able to be complete and defend at least some of the tank damage to the sentry's and zealots wouldn't have been such a bad thing. Especially if the immortals (and future backup) could come back to clean up the tanks.

Spending FF to block bunker repair would have left the sentries and zealots vulnerable to raw tanking and Jinro could have chosen to repair tanks anyway.

Again, if I am WAY off in my recollection I apologize.

He had 1 bunker with rines in it and 2 or 3 tanks, I believe only 1(the highground one) not being lifted. He also had enough sentries to both GS and FF, given the choice between the two, obviously FF is by far more important, since what's 33% mitigation if you can't break the front anyway. It was horrible play, followed by probably a more devastating play when jinro hellion dropped him. It was bad on semi-pro level, on MC level... He *cough* choked hard.

Yes, it was a really bad play, uncharacteristic of MC we seen and loved before. But since hopefully they all played straight this is the only other explanation left to us no matter how funny it sounds. Anyways, to me both MC games looked bad, and I cannot say Jinro won because he was better but he won because MC played bad against him.

I can see Idra winning against Jinro easily if random maps do not turn out to be terran favored like in their bo1 earlier.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-16 00:17:11
January 16 2011 00:16 GMT
#3840
Completely awesome games, congratulations Jinro.

reposting cause it's so awesome;
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