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peeeky
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada631 Posts
January 17 2011 00:09 GMT
#501
Any updated results? Internet went down for me
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
January 17 2011 00:09 GMT
#502
On January 17 2011 09:05 FrostShadow wrote:
Wow, close spawn meta is ridiculous. MorroW clearly outplayed whitera, theres just no time to properly react.

Also, when did whitera decide he was going to just 4gate every game?


How did Morrow outplay Whitera? I think he made too many drones for a 4gate and he really didn't need that 3rd queen either. Or if those early lings he made were drones instead, and then when he actually made drones he made lings/roach instead, he might have been fine.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
January 17 2011 00:10 GMT
#503
On January 17 2011 09:08 HowardRoark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 09:05 FrostShadow wrote:
Wow, close spawn meta is ridiculous. MorroW clearly outplayed whitera, theres just no time to properly react.

Also, when did whitera decide he was going to just 4gate every game?


Yeah, Morrow played better, sad to see 4gates at this level game after game.

Thats like saying im sick of terrans making 2 rax. Deal with it
Yusername
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden252 Posts
January 17 2011 00:10 GMT
#504
On January 17 2011 09:08 HowardRoark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 09:05 FrostShadow wrote:
Wow, close spawn meta is ridiculous. MorroW clearly outplayed whitera, theres just no time to properly react.

Also, when did whitera decide he was going to just 4gate every game?


Yeah, Morrow played better, sad to see 4gates at this level game after game.

I knew White-Ra was going to do this. He'd stand no chance against MorroW's macro otherwise. He's a smart player.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
January 17 2011 00:10 GMT
#505
On January 17 2011 09:09 peeeky wrote:
Any updated results? Internet went down for me


white-ra 2-1 MorroW
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
monXikk
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland742 Posts
January 17 2011 00:10 GMT
#506
Wow techno all the way.. you really are my exctasyyyyy... classic track, but srsly its cheap.
yet another IdrA's #1 fan
Eggcake
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland722 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 00:12:24
January 17 2011 00:11 GMT
#507
On January 17 2011 09:10 Yusername wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 09:08 HowardRoark wrote:
On January 17 2011 09:05 FrostShadow wrote:
Wow, close spawn meta is ridiculous. MorroW clearly outplayed whitera, theres just no time to properly react.

Also, when did whitera decide he was going to just 4gate every game?


Yeah, Morrow played better, sad to see 4gates at this level game after game.

I knew White-Ra was going to do this. He'd stand no chance against MorroW's macro otherwise. He's a smart player.


Alltough he tried a 4-gate on Xelnaga it didn't work at all - and Morrow lost a more or less macro game.

Edit: THANK YOU Day9, "DuckloadRa" aka "WhiteRa". <3
FrostShadow
Profile Joined August 2010
United States335 Posts
January 17 2011 00:11 GMT
#508
On January 17 2011 09:09 QuakerOats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 09:05 FrostShadow wrote:
Wow, close spawn meta is ridiculous. MorroW clearly outplayed whitera, theres just no time to properly react.

Also, when did whitera decide he was going to just 4gate every game?


How did Morrow outplay Whitera? I think he made too many drones for a 4gate and he really didn't need that 3rd queen either. Or if those early lings he made were drones instead, and then when he actually made drones he made lings/roach instead, he might have been fine.


well, dominated the beginning, picked off zealot and sentry, picked off pylons, but whitera back in his base. showed great defense, whitera played bad attacking up the ramp for no reason.

you really think whitera would win that game in cross spawns?
Yusername
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden252 Posts
January 17 2011 00:14 GMT
#509
I really, really hope MorroW won this. It would be so epic. And also, fun to mock his haters.
HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 00:15:07
January 17 2011 00:14 GMT
#510
On January 17 2011 09:11 FrostShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 09:09 QuakerOats wrote:
On January 17 2011 09:05 FrostShadow wrote:
Wow, close spawn meta is ridiculous. MorroW clearly outplayed whitera, theres just no time to properly react.

Also, when did whitera decide he was going to just 4gate every game?


How did Morrow outplay Whitera? I think he made too many drones for a 4gate and he really didn't need that 3rd queen either. Or if those early lings he made were drones instead, and then when he actually made drones he made lings/roach instead, he might have been fine.


well, dominated the beginning, picked off zealot and sentry, picked off pylons, but whitera back in his base. showed great defense, whitera played bad attacking up the ramp for no reason.

you really think whitera would win that game in cross spawns?


Morrow clearly is the better player IMHO, but Ra have a great understanding of the game and a game sense out of this world. So, I guess he does what needs to be done to win.
"It is really good to get the double observatory if you want to get the speed and sight range for the observer simultaneously. It's a little bit of an advanced tactic, and by advanced, I mean really fucking bad."
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
January 17 2011 00:14 GMT
#511
On January 17 2011 09:02 Ajunoo wrote:
jesus always seems to lag during the battles or other important occurencies


: - D awesome post
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
January 17 2011 00:14 GMT
#512
On January 17 2011 09:11 FrostShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 09:09 QuakerOats wrote:
On January 17 2011 09:05 FrostShadow wrote:
Wow, close spawn meta is ridiculous. MorroW clearly outplayed whitera, theres just no time to properly react.

Also, when did whitera decide he was going to just 4gate every game?


How did Morrow outplay Whitera? I think he made too many drones for a 4gate and he really didn't need that 3rd queen either. Or if those early lings he made were drones instead, and then when he actually made drones he made lings/roach instead, he might have been fine.


well, dominated the beginning, picked off zealot and sentry, picked off pylons, but whitera back in his base. showed great defense, whitera played bad attacking up the ramp for no reason.

you really think whitera would win that game in cross spawns?


But White-Ra was overwhelmingly ahead already when he attacked up the ramp, it's a bit silly to complain about his decisionmaking unless it outrights loses him the game then.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
January 17 2011 00:14 GMT
#513
4 gate is a common strat if morrow was a better player then he shoulda know how to defend that specially when he knows that white-ra is close position
Just like day9 said he shoulda place a few spine crawlers considering the position
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 17 2011 00:15 GMT
#514
On January 17 2011 08:23 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 08:22 Shikyo wrote:
On January 17 2011 08:19 Telcontar wrote:
Morrow was just too far ahead after holding that crazy 5 gate rush off.

I really don't even get the 5gate rush, it's delayed so much it hits like 1 minute later than normal 4gate and you can't even support 5 gates on 1 base even with 80 probes mining(aka full saturation), so I have no idea why he does that, though I guess it's so that he can pressure more at once and it doesn't hurt that much when he moves back to reinforce(aka bad macro I guess), but overall I really think 4gate is far superior.

He cuts probe production.

I missed replying to this before, but whatever:

4gate pretty much always cuts probes, you still can't support 5 gates. You barely can support 4 gateways with 24 on minerals and 6 on gas and if he cuts before that, there's absolutely no way he can support 5.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
January 17 2011 00:15 GMT
#515
On January 17 2011 09:11 FrostShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 09:09 QuakerOats wrote:
On January 17 2011 09:05 FrostShadow wrote:
Wow, close spawn meta is ridiculous. MorroW clearly outplayed whitera, theres just no time to properly react.

Also, when did whitera decide he was going to just 4gate every game?


How did Morrow outplay Whitera? I think he made too many drones for a 4gate and he really didn't need that 3rd queen either. Or if those early lings he made were drones instead, and then when he actually made drones he made lings/roach instead, he might have been fine.


well, dominated the beginning, picked off zealot and sentry, picked off pylons, but whitera back in his base. showed great defense, whitera played bad attacking up the ramp for no reason.

you really think whitera would win that game in cross spawns?


If it was cross spawns Whitera would not have pushed with the zealot and sentry first of all, the game would have been completely different, so there's no point in speculating about that... And as I said the reason he picked off the zealot and sentry is because he made a pretty significant amount of lings early. Making those lings instead of drones hurts Zerg's economy, so it's kinda expected that he does at least some damage to the toss too.
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
January 17 2011 00:15 GMT
#516
On January 17 2011 09:10 monXikk wrote:
Wow techno all the way.. you really are my exctasyyyyy... classic track, but srsly its cheap.


ATB isn't techno at all.
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
January 17 2011 00:16 GMT
#517
On January 17 2011 09:14 HowardRoark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 09:11 FrostShadow wrote:
On January 17 2011 09:09 QuakerOats wrote:
On January 17 2011 09:05 FrostShadow wrote:
Wow, close spawn meta is ridiculous. MorroW clearly outplayed whitera, theres just no time to properly react.

Also, when did whitera decide he was going to just 4gate every game?


How did Morrow outplay Whitera? I think he made too many drones for a 4gate and he really didn't need that 3rd queen either. Or if those early lings he made were drones instead, and then when he actually made drones he made lings/roach instead, he might have been fine.


well, dominated the beginning, picked off zealot and sentry, picked off pylons, but whitera back in his base. showed great defense, whitera played bad attacking up the ramp for no reason.

you really think whitera would win that game in cross spawns?


Morrow clearly is the better player IMHO, but Ra have a great understanding of the game and a game sense out of this world. So, I guess he does what needs to be done to win.


No. Morrow may have better mechanics and better multitasking. Perhaps. But what you mention in the next sentence is a part of being good at the game...
Hello=)
ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
January 17 2011 00:16 GMT
#518
Oh, and lings really suck.....
Hello=)
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
January 17 2011 00:16 GMT
#519
Hey Shikyo - if you are still here there is another 5 gate on the way hehe
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
FrostShadow
Profile Joined August 2010
United States335 Posts
January 17 2011 00:16 GMT
#520
On January 17 2011 09:15 QuakerOats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 09:11 FrostShadow wrote:
On January 17 2011 09:09 QuakerOats wrote:
On January 17 2011 09:05 FrostShadow wrote:
Wow, close spawn meta is ridiculous. MorroW clearly outplayed whitera, theres just no time to properly react.

Also, when did whitera decide he was going to just 4gate every game?


How did Morrow outplay Whitera? I think he made too many drones for a 4gate and he really didn't need that 3rd queen either. Or if those early lings he made were drones instead, and then when he actually made drones he made lings/roach instead, he might have been fine.


well, dominated the beginning, picked off zealot and sentry, picked off pylons, but whitera back in his base. showed great defense, whitera played bad attacking up the ramp for no reason.

you really think whitera would win that game in cross spawns?


If it was cross spawns Whitera would not have pushed with the zealot and sentry first of all, the game would have been completely different, so there's no point in speculating about that... And as I said the reason he picked off the zealot and sentry is because he made a pretty significant amount of lings early. Making those lings instead of drones hurts Zerg's economy, so it's kinda expected that he does at least some damage to the toss too.


Close spawn meta is clearly heavily favored for protoss. and guess what, whitera is 4gating again.
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