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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 06 2010 11:35 GMT
#1521
On December 06 2010 20:34 Bommes wrote:
Blizzard already addressed the Hatch first issue by making ramps not blockable with 2 buildings on the PTR.

So stop QQing, they won't change anything about marines.


Um I tested the PTR and you can still double bunker block and it now takes 3 pylons instead of 2 to block (which is actually pretty big ). But tvz still the same although just a patrolling drone solves that problem.
When I think of something else, something will go here
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2010 11:35 GMT
#1522
what is legal in Korea? Lemons? o_o didn't get it
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
December 06 2010 11:35 GMT
#1523
On December 06 2010 20:33 Mainland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 20:29 Indel wrote:
Every single fucking retard that says you should go pool first is a worthless imbecile who just doesn't understand that you can't never, ever keep up with terran production with a single hatch.


I've already posted this exact comment in this thread. Larva production with pool first with queen is the same as hatch first. Here is the source:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=117908

Therefore, you can't say hatch-first is better for larva production.

Going hatch first requires the Zerg to take 6-10+ drones off mining to defend against rushes.

Therefore, you can't say hatch-first is better economically.

But the problem is that you can't break out of a bunker wall-in with zerglings.
shynee
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada180 Posts
December 06 2010 11:35 GMT
#1524
On December 06 2010 20:31 Umpteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 20:23 iEchoic wrote:
TvZ is so dumb. Terran is overwhelmingly favored first 10 min and zerg overwhelmingly favored the rest.


Maybe that would be less true if fewer Terran players spent the first 10 minutes building marines. If you go with a strategy that's all about the early win, and you fail, should you really be able to seamlessly transition into winning the late game?


You're an idiot. If Terran macros and doesnt apply marine pressure, not only will he be hardcore out droned but also out produced. Zerg will continuously max out and throw his army into Terran and re-max out before Terran can even max out his first army.

And I'm talking about a good zerg, not the noobs out there on ladder.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 11:35:30
December 06 2010 11:35 GMT
#1525
On December 06 2010 20:33 JunkkaGom wrote:
I feel terrible not because of rain but because of an incident that happened between me and artosis. I deserve to be punched by artosis.


Tell us more, it will disappear among the zerg-QQ very quickly anyways
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Hoju
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States449 Posts
December 06 2010 11:35 GMT
#1526
ugh, will zergs finally figure out how to stop these all marine pushes? Or stop going hatch first every ZvT game? This is getting so fucking boring.

I'd like to see the stats from this GSL on how many games zergs have lost going hatch first ZvT on maps other than scrap or shakuras.
www.TheInfestedArchon.com - SC2 Satire
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
December 06 2010 11:35 GMT
#1527
WOW Didn't expect Rain taking out NesTea. I did bet on Rain for the upset but damn that was unexpected.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Gorguts
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada254 Posts
December 06 2010 11:35 GMT
#1528
Isn't the #1 rule of LR threads "Don't Talk About Balance" ???


yet every single LR thread is nothing but crying Zergs.
Pudge_172
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1378 Posts
December 06 2010 11:35 GMT
#1529
On December 06 2010 20:33 Moonwrath wrote:
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On December 06 2010 20:32 Pudge_172 wrote:
I'm fucking sick of idiots questioning hatch first after Idra and Ret tell you that hatch first is a must.


Yet its success rate against 2 rax is like 5%?


I would argue that pool first would be like 1%
Diablo 3 Blog Me & My Mom http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=336890
meiyo
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway81 Posts
December 06 2010 11:35 GMT
#1530
lemons and limes lol
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
December 06 2010 11:35 GMT
#1531
Fruitdealer time! Fruitdealer's so Cool.

Time to deal that fruit.

Fruitdealer fighting!
Ezze
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada934 Posts
December 06 2010 11:35 GMT
#1532
God I'm still so mad that the terrible terran beat NesTea

I have no idea how Rain managed to get this far. He is not even close to NesTea's level.
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
December 06 2010 11:35 GMT
#1533
Poor artosis....... getting trolled so hard.
iEchoic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1776 Posts
December 06 2010 11:35 GMT
#1534
On December 06 2010 20:32 TehForce wrote:
i really dont get how every terran whiner can overlook jinros amazing games with pure terran macro overwhelming the zerg.
i guess they are just supermad because the only way they can win on ladder is 2rax/2base allin because they don't know how to play a good game


FFS people, stop using Jinro as an example. Moon literally played like a mid-diamond player, and that's not an exaggeration. He hasn't beaten anyone who played well yet. I think the style is cool and I like Jinro's play but this has got to stop.
vileEchoic -- clanvile.com
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
December 06 2010 11:35 GMT
#1535
On December 06 2010 20:34 Warrior Madness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 20:33 JunkkaGom wrote:
I feel terrible not because of rain but because of an incident that happened between me and artosis. I deserve to be punched by artosis.


I'm the only one curious about what happened??


no you arent. pls tell us jon, no matter what we will still <3 you !
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
MiniTsunami
Profile Joined June 2010
United States274 Posts
December 06 2010 11:35 GMT
#1536
On December 06 2010 20:34 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 20:26 ch33psh33p wrote:
Wait... NesTea lost 3 times to the same shit, and didn't adapt the second or third time WHATSOEVER?

And you're calling Rain the shitty player? Sure he was cheesing/all-in/whatever you want to call it, but NesTea, as a champion, should've anticpated it on Game 5 EASILY, went pool first, and outmacroed rain from there.


What do you mean adapt? Ton of terrans doing this strat last few weeks and Top zerg players still loosing to it, so maybe there isn't some magic way to adapt, don't you think?


When people make comments like that it immediately shows that they are not worth responding to. That's the typical thing for someone who likes to watch and theorize, but not play the game to say.
Learn from the mistakes of others, because you won't live long enough to make them all yourself.
Darkong
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom418 Posts
December 06 2010 11:35 GMT
#1537
I'm torn, I'd like to see some protoss do better this time around, but its the FruitDealer and I luvs him <3
Trolling the Battle.Net forums, the most fun you can have with your pants on.
Synneby
Profile Joined October 2005
Sweden61 Posts
December 06 2010 11:35 GMT
#1538
Nestea should learn how to defend an rush properly. It had nothing to do with imba, Nestea played terrible, and Rain was smart enough to play his opponents strengths and weaknesses, as ANY good player should do. Nestea didn't deserve the top 4 spot imo.
fryy
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia103 Posts
December 06 2010 11:35 GMT
#1539
Many many zerg tears about balance and all. Yet which race has won the last 2 GSL's?
Aus.Force
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1278 Posts
December 06 2010 11:35 GMT
#1540
i can see artosis lime smuggling
lots of money to be had!
"no need for cinema, just watch special taktiks" - white-ra
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