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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 01 2010 12:02 GMT
#3081
On December 01 2010 21:00 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 20:59 Shikyo wrote:
On December 01 2010 20:57 Sfydjklm wrote:
On December 01 2010 20:56 Shikyo wrote:
On December 01 2010 20:53 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
On December 01 2010 20:52 dapierow wrote:
IdrA lost right when artosis said 14 drones to 19 scvs but he forgot to mention the one mule... it was gg then


Yeah and the problem is that he played somewhat perfect until then. Got his Hatch and a Spine.

What to do when you're still at a fucking huge disadvantage economy and army-wise?
I mean I have no idea what he could've done better. Maybe losing 1-2 Drones less at those early Marine pushes?
Maybe, but that's peanuts.

14hatch doesn't work, the current IN is overpool, and it's totally safe vs that with better econ than 14hatch.

Ret metioned in other thread that you simply die to marines rallying if you dont hatch first because you can't get enough lings up in time.

I'll just say he's wrong >_> the first spawn larvae is so fast that you actually get way more lings than with hatch-first. So if that doesn't get enough lings, then hatch-first at least won't. It gets more larvae than hatch-first, you know.

my experience is the same as yours but i don't play ex-progamers and neither do you

That's okay, they still play the same game and larvae don't spawn differently for them.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Maero
Profile Joined December 2007
349 Posts
December 01 2010 12:02 GMT
#3082
Check cancels the hatch at the last minute, and choya cancels his cannons. Game seems fairly even at the moment.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13076 Posts
December 01 2010 12:02 GMT
#3083
great decision by check
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Abstrkt
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia65 Posts
December 01 2010 12:02 GMT
#3084
Idra should just switch to Terran. Zerg is screwed over by the short maps.
Go Zergs Go!
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 12:03:14
December 01 2010 12:02 GMT
#3085
Cancel hatch you lunatic?

EDIT: Nevermind =D
VikingKong
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China509 Posts
December 01 2010 12:02 GMT
#3086
On December 01 2010 21:01 mango_destroyer wrote:
I love how everyone complaining hardcore about the map and make excuses for Idra. He droned hard, he gets punished..the story of his life.

I can't believe people are arguing this. I really can't. Was Idra not supposed to drone hard then? After being down 5 fucking workers and a mule? How can people think like this? He even got his bling nest before his spire, blings were morphing and speed was on the way when mvp attacked. Idra didn't play perfectly, but saying that his mistake came from droning hard? That's ridiculous.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
December 01 2010 12:02 GMT
#3087
On December 01 2010 21:01 mango_destroyer wrote:
I love how everyone complaining hardcore about the map and make excuses for Idra. He droned hard, he gets punished..the story of his life.

And in non-imaginary land, Idra lost when he took so much damage from the 2rax. Nothing to do with over-droning. The followup was largely just MVP going through the motions of finishing the game with a huge advantage.
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
December 01 2010 12:02 GMT
#3088
On December 01 2010 21:01 smileyyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 21:00 Deadlyfish wrote:
The better player won, and people know it. But when someone you're rooting for loses, you get unreasonable and start questioning balance, even though you know that MVP is better than IdrA.

The thing is I was pretty sure Mvp is gonna win. But this series does not show you who the better player is at all. let them play a bo7 on decent maps.

And lets have only 1 GSL/ year. Wait...
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
TedJustice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1324 Posts
December 01 2010 12:02 GMT
#3089
They both lost the same amount of minerals there in the cancels, with the protoss coming out behind since he's essentially lost a pylon.
KBChristensen
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark8 Posts
December 01 2010 12:02 GMT
#3090
It's basically getting to a point where I'm getting tired of watching TvZ, hell the reaper-fast-expand-build was more interesting that the current trend. It seems to me like there's always going to be a build, which will put Zerg behind per default, if the maps don't get better soon. I'm not saying Idra didn't deserve that loss, he does seem to take too big of a risk trying to get his economy going, but I'm just really getting tired of 5 minute games.
I coul have sworn the priest sighed, when I knelt down to atone...
awha
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1358 Posts
December 01 2010 12:03 GMT
#3091
nice descision making! love this game already
Gleen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brazil707 Posts
December 01 2010 12:03 GMT
#3092
This protoss shall lose.

Even if i want a protoss to win GSL.
I'm nowhere near good, but I still have fun playing with my probes
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3686 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 12:03:23
December 01 2010 12:03 GMT
#3093
On December 01 2010 21:01 Ftrunkz wrote:
Why were the teamliquid streams disabled? I hope they werent 'shutdown' and just went offline, cos if they were shutdown thats so fucked, i pay for a gom subscription but cant actually stream with the gom player cos of lag reasons, pretty gay if i have to wait for vods for EVERY game not just the ones im out for...

Restreaming is illegal. Just watch the official stream but in VLC http://211.43.144.199:8800/view.cgi?hid=1&cid=23&nid=800&uno=6836400&uip=213.103.193.43&title=SonyEricssonSTARCRAFTIIOpenSeason3&key=8261bf45e732d94f0a9c5dfa10939d61
colddweller
Profile Joined July 2010
United States12 Posts
December 01 2010 12:03 GMT
#3094
On December 01 2010 21:00 Deadlyfish wrote:
The better player won, and people know it. But when someone you're rooting for loses, you get unreasonable and start questioning balance, even though you know that MVP is better than IdrA.

And yet, this is by and far not the first time map balance has been brought up. Yeah MVP probably had a greater chance of going through even with cross positions on metal, but that doesn't discount the plea for a better map pool.
ghostsquall
Profile Joined September 2010
United States187 Posts
December 01 2010 12:03 GMT
#3095
When I'm playing ZvP I always pull a drone off at 14 supply and pretend to 14hatch, so hopefully the toss tosses up a forge like this. Then I just 14pool and rush to roaches and kill him.
i pwn n00bs
Mainland
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada551 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 12:03:50
December 01 2010 12:03 GMT
#3096
double cannon cancel + lost pylon = 300 cancelled plus lost 100 minerals

hatchery cancel = 300 cancelled

so it's not too bad for check
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
December 01 2010 12:03 GMT
#3097
On December 01 2010 21:01 mango_destroyer wrote:
I love how everyone complaining hardcore about the map and make excuses for Idra. He droned hard, he gets punished..the story of his life.


Fucking bullshit.
He had about as many Drones as Terran had workers when the finishing blow came. AND he had a Baneling nest AND Lair in order to get speed.

Yet the attack came, he had a disadvantage army wise, eco wise and tech wise because it's simply impossible. Always these Bronze player comments :f
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
December 01 2010 12:03 GMT
#3098
corsairs after cannon rushes omg... making me shudder.
dota 2 stream #noskill #feed #noob twitch.tv/dmcredgrave
eggs
Profile Joined August 2010
1011 Posts
December 01 2010 12:03 GMT
#3099
On December 01 2010 21:01 Ftrunkz wrote:
Why were the teamliquid streams disabled? I hope they werent 'shutdown' and just went offline, cos if they were shutdown thats so fucked, i pay for a gom subscription but cant actually stream with the gom player cos of lag reasons, pretty gay if i have to wait for vods for EVERY game not just the ones im out for...


i also have had premium service for all 3 seasons but always watch live on a re-stream. HQ vods are nice, but the gomplayer live stream keeps having connection issues.
SKtheAnathema
Profile Joined September 2010
United States885 Posts
December 01 2010 12:03 GMT
#3100
why's everyone think mvp can't play a macro game? i'd bet my house he didn't get #1 on the ladder doing 10 min timing pushes every single game. jesus christ, stop making dumbass excuses. idra won on steppes, so there's no reason he can't win on close meta positions.

at least mvp didn't send SCVs with his attacks
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