EPTAlso the admins decision seems doubtful to me. Good night craftcup.
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TheMenace
Germany244 Posts
Also the admins decision seems doubtful to me. Good night craftcup. | ||
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searcher
277 Posts
On February 10 2011 08:36 teacherWISH wrote: WoW Craft cup raelly???????? You bunch of Nazi eu garbage... Admins are from germany IT was an obvious 2-0 by avilo, then these nazi mother fuckers, just take the wins away from him? cause hes american? i swear to god boycott this fucking tournament Hahahaha goodbye. | ||
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FreeUrMind
639 Posts
for refusing to play and respect admin decision he was disqualified | ||
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Postman
United States269 Posts
But CraftCup admins have a tourny to run, and see finish. Avilo's style is the most terrible and boring thing I've ever seen and I would not have continued watching another game. They need to have their tourny finish, and they would favor Beasty to make it through because he would put on a more interesting game. What they did seemed like favoritism, Beasty was BMing hard , and Avilo deserved to continue on his way to probable victory. It's completely ridiculous and Avilo is probably right to be pissed off and not play. IMHO, focusing on the tournament as a spectator sport, they did the right thing. From the perspective of a competitive sport, they did the completely wrong thing. Honestly, overall I'm not sure what to think about this other than Beasty is a hypocritical prick and I hope he loses. | ||
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Siverto
3 Posts
On February 10 2011 08:25 niteReloaded wrote: What an unprofessional way to deal with the situation. If you're not willing to wait for the game to finish, or at least reach a true stalemate, then you shouldn't run a tournament. Also, you're letting beastyqt act like a mobster or whatever, pausing the game without explaining and being a bm douche. If beasty left that game on his own initiative then this tournament is a joke so I hope at least that wasn't the case. That! This kind of horrible refereeing makes at least me not wanna watch any more craftcup. Boring game, sure it was, but it was beasty being a bm douche... | ||
Karoug
Sweden2 Posts
On February 10 2011 08:33 Rushingwolf wrote: this is so biased and a horrible decision from the craftcup retardmins 1. Avilo won the first game 2. Avilo was in the lead in the second match 3. Beasty was a bm whiney raging nerd, quits WITHOUT asking or telling avilo beforehand and now he should win??? wtf craftcup is not worth watching Yeah, this was the last time i watched anything from craftcup and Endrey... And a joyful first post it was! | ||
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UnholyRai
720 Posts
Terrible, terrible decision by Craftcup admins. Avilo was actually in a completely dominant position in that second game and was inevitibly going to win (had a superior army in every respect). How on earth is that a stalemate? The admins have been pressured into making completely the wrong decision and I've lost all respect for Craftcup and won't be watching it anymore. You don't like Avilo's playstyle? That's fine, but you can't start stopping games if they go over an hour... Utter crap. | ||
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Smurphy
United States374 Posts
On February 10 2011 08:38 FreeUrMind wrote: well admin offered rematch but avilo said no, in fact he was behind in game 2 since beasty had 3k gas more for refusing to play and respect admin decision he was disqualified He should have refused to play. That match was not a draw. Enemy units were being destroyed. Slow Pace does NOT mean a draw. | ||
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Postman
United States269 Posts
On February 10 2011 08:38 FreeUrMind wrote: well admin offered rematch but avilo said no, in fact he was behind in game 2 since beasty had 3k gas more for refusing to play and respect admin decision he was disqualified Avilo was still mining gas from his gold base. Not sure how much more was in there, but it wasn't exactly a 3k gas lead. | ||
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dizzy101
Netherlands2066 Posts
On February 10 2011 08:33 Rushingwolf wrote: this is so biased and a horrible decision from the craftcup retardmins 1. Avilo won the first game 2. Avilo was in the lead in the second match Avilo wasn't in the lead in the 2nd game. Beastyqt didn't rebuild his forces, even tho he was sitting on 30k minerals, presumably because he wanted to show that a stalemate was arrived at. It's tricky for the admins to decide situations like this. Avilo was definitely abusing the turtle strategy to the point where it's game-breaking. If you turtle and drag out the game so that the map gets mined out and aim for a stalemate, then I think admins can step in and declare the other player the winner. It's not really sportsmanlike behavior, even tho technically you're not breaking any official rules. | ||
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Radipon
United States47 Posts
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raser
Norway301 Posts
On February 10 2011 08:38 FreeUrMind wrote: well admin offered rematch but avilo said no, in fact he was behind in game 2 since beasty had 3k gas more for refusing to play and respect admin decision he was disqualified he had 3k more gas because he made 100marines, if you convert the food into the heavy gas units avilo had they come out kinda even so............. | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On February 10 2011 08:39 UnholyRai wrote: neutral perspective here. Terrible, terrible decision by Craftcup admins. Avilo was actually in a completely dominant position in that second game and was inevitibly going to win (had a superior army in every respect). How on earth is that a stalemate? The admins have been pressured into making completely the wrong decision and I've lost all respect for Craftcup and won't be watching it anymore. You don't like Avilo's playstyle? That's fine, but you can't start stopping games if they go over an hour... Utter crap. This pretty much wraps up my thoughts on these events. Avilo was making VERY SLOW but steady progress. | ||
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Smurphy
United States374 Posts
On February 10 2011 08:42 dizzy101 wrote: Avilo wasn't in the lead in the 2nd game. Beastyqt didn't rebuild his forces, even tho he was sitting on 30k minerals, presumably because he wanted to show that a stalemate was arrived at. It's tricky for the admins to decide situations like this. Avilo was definitely abusing the turtle strategy to the point where it's game-breaking. If you turtle and drag out the game so that the map gets mined out and aim for a stalemate, then I think admins can step in and declare the other player the winner. It's not really sportsmanlike behavior, even tho technically you're not breaking any official rules. Beasty was going the same thing of playing in a turtle style. avilo was attempting to move forward. Beasy was not. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
The game would have continued for another 4 or 5 hours at this pace (how many hunter-seeker-missiled tanks can you replenish with 18k minerals?), but I don't believe it should be in the power of the admins to just rule it a draw if one or both of the players are not in agreement. That's what Blizzard's automatic stalemate detection is for. All this talk about who was ahead or who was trying to win the game or not is absolutely meaningless, as there's no way of knowing how the game would have actually ended. The admins should not be able to end a game whenever they please without both players agreeing to the decision. | ||
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ranjutan
United States636 Posts
On February 10 2011 08:36 teacherWISH wrote: WoW Craft cup raelly???????? You bunch of Nazi eu garbage... Admins are from germany IT was an obvious 2-0 by avilo, then these nazi mother fuckers, just take the wins away from him? cause hes american? i swear to god boycott this fucking tournament Wow.... I think they made a terrible decision. But, um, you may want to rethink your choice of words  | ||
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DoctorClock
United States131 Posts
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Baum
Germany1010 Posts
On February 10 2011 08:41 Postman wrote: Avilo was still mining gas from his gold base. Not sure how much more was in there, but it wasn't exactly a 3k gas lead. Yes, don't believe everything a drunk and very biased caster tells you. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
Also that was a clear regame in my opinion. Only mistake was to call it that late. Was a regame already 20 min earlier. Normally players decide to regame though and dont need an admin for that. But Avilo was strangely stubborn. I remember a broodwar game recently between Flash and someone else I forgot. There the admins called decided to regame after about 40 minutes. And in that game was still much more happening then in this game between Avilo and BeastyQT. And I remember no drama there, although the game was much more important. | ||
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Rushingwolf
78 Posts
On February 10 2011 08:42 dizzy101 wrote: Avilo wasn't in the lead in the 2nd game. Beastyqt didn't rebuild his forces, even tho he was sitting on 30k minerals, presumably because he wanted to show that a stalemate was arrived at. It's tricky for the admins to decide situations like this. Avilo was definitely abusing the turtle strategy to the point where it's game-breaking. If you turtle and drag out the game so that the map gets mined out and aim for a stalemate, then I think admins can step in and declare the other player the winner. It's not really sportsmanlike behavior, even tho technically you're not breaking any official rules. 1. Avilo was in the leads point wise as seen in the game statistics 2. Beasty had a half as many tanks as avilo; a lot less Ravens; a huge amout of useless marines ; his lower left Island was penetrated by avilo; he lost his air superiority by flying his vikings into a nuke 3, I am sure that avilo didn't agree to a rematch. Beasty just left and the BIASED admins supported him 4. In the gsl a regame of an OPEN match would never have happened | ||
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