EPTBeastly may not like Avilo's style but he was doing the exact same thing. He had 3k mineral lead. Nothing was stopping him from making aggressive pushes.
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SilverLeagueElite
United States626 Posts
Beastly may not like Avilo's style but he was doing the exact same thing. He had 3k mineral lead. Nothing was stopping him from making aggressive pushes. | ||
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j00h
United States2 Posts
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dizzy101
Netherlands2066 Posts
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Baum
Germany1010 Posts
On February 10 2011 08:57 tree.hugger wrote: People seem to be forgetting that Gomas, who is a Polish player (late at night for him), is waiting for this series to finish. You cannot allow one player to wait for two hours just to allow a de facto stalemate to work itself out. So postpone the finals. That would be a more legit decision than anything like this. | ||
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UnholyRai
720 Posts
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
I was busy posting in this thread instead of looking at the imbalanced.tv stream. :lol | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On February 10 2011 09:02 Baum wrote: So postpone the finals. That would be a more legit decision than anything like this. Obviously. I was winning the game, and any tournament with common sense would let you play it out and postpone the finals. That would be common sense. But no. Craftcup instead decides to DQ the player that won. ..... | ||
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UnholyRai
720 Posts
On February 10 2011 09:03 Bobster wrote: Was beasty DQd for his bm in the avilo match? Or did he bm gomas as well? He probably BM'd Gomez in the hope it would gain him a free win from the admins like it did in the semis. | ||
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teacherWISH
Canada111 Posts
Who plays a game, 1 hour in, pauses and starts to msg admins, cause he can't beat avilo. Game is not over till someone is dead, Beastyshitty just leaves the game, therefore he lost... 2-0 avilo over beastyqt.... why is this so hard to understand? | ||
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ranjutan
United States636 Posts
On February 10 2011 09:03 avilo wrote: Obviously. I was winning the game, and any tournament with common sense would let you play it out and postpone the finals. That would be common sense. But no. Craftcup instead decides to DQ the player that won. ..... At least they DQ'd the loser too T_T | ||
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Postman
United States269 Posts
CraftCup realizes that there would be to much fallout over their decision should Beasty win after the way the semifinal ended so they DQ him for BM and preserve the status quo. This tourny turned into a bit of a trainwreck. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On February 10 2011 09:03 avilo wrote: After they decided that they would not let the game play out due to time issues, it's on you to accept (regame) or deny (risk of being DQd) the decision. Obviously. I was winning the game, and any tournament with common sense would let you play it out and postpone the finals. That would be common sense. But no. Craftcup instead decides to DQ the player that won. ..... And in the end, they DQd the player that refused to regame. | ||
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Karoug
Sweden2 Posts
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ranjutan
United States636 Posts
On February 10 2011 09:04 teacherWISH wrote: Both shouldnt be disqualified, only beastyshitty should be disqualified. Who plays a game, 1 hour in, pauses and starts to msg admins, cause he can't beat avilo. Game is not over till someone is dead, Beastyshitty just leaves the game, therefore he lost... 2-0 avilo over beastyqt.... why is this so hard to understand? I see what you did there, that's pretty clever.  | ||
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Viperxx
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Avilo got BM'ed the entire time, before during and after the game for his play style. His exact play style, was then MIRROR COPIED by his opponent, Beasty, so anyone who wants to complain about that, that's fine, but playstyles cannot be mocked here, they were identical. I would also like to say the casters were EXTREMELY unprofessional... to the point that I would advise anyone interested to never watch again, they were that bad. Just my opinion, sorry if anyone takes that offensively, I just feel you can be unbiased/professional while casting a tourny. The game itself, while slow, Avilo was making progress by nukes -> pushing tanks up little by little. This may sound unfeasible and not cost effective... but there were so many minerals in the bank it was working. Anyone who thinks that was a draw was simply watching a different game. The only reason that was a draw, was because QT was crying the entire time, and frankly refusing to play. There was enough movement out that game could have been won/lost, there was movement, both players were not AFK. The fact that one player does not want a Re-make should be enough that there was progress coming along. Neither player wants a game to stalemate, so if they are given the option and one player refuses, he should not be punished because the other is hating on a strategy. A slow-moving strat, while cheesy and annoying, is not a stalemate, sorry. Not trying to cause drama, just my two cents. If you want to watch a tourny, find a different one, this one is poorly run, and commentated, imo =). Edit--- Due to responses, I watched the link on the TL live stream, I'm sorry i didnt catch the casters name. Also I would like to add that 'unprofessional' would be joking that they were going to take naps as casters, and then rotating through while taking breaks while making the others cast by themselves. It was a 1 hour game, while long, I feel that was uncalled for. If you don't agree, more power to you. I personally feel like this made the tournament feel very unprofessional. Also, as i stated, this was the only 'round' of this tournament i saw, and it was enough to turn me off of it. If you feel i should give it more time, sorry it was that displeasing to me. | ||
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Mercury-
Great Britain804 Posts
On February 10 2011 08:36 TheMenace wrote: I am sorry but Special Endrey made a fool out of himself. Not only that he is casting completely wasted but beeing so one sided in favor of Beastyqt makes me sad. I understand that the game betweeen Beasty and Avilo wasn't entertaining whatsoever but both were playing there games and a caster should respect that. Also the admins decision seems doubtful to me. Good night craftcup. He never really struck me as the sharpest tool in the shed tbh. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On February 10 2011 09:04 UnholyRai wrote: He probably BM'd Gomez in the hope it would gain him a free win from the admins like it did in the semis. hehe On February 10 2011 09:05 Postman wrote: If that was the reason to DQ beasty, that was horrible fucking timing. Avilo gets screwed by his playstyle and Beasty's complaining. CraftCup realizes that there would be to much fallout over their decision should Beasty win after the way the semifinal ended so they DQ him for BM and preserve the status quo. This tourny turned into a bit of a trainwreck. Do so directly after the beasty vs avilo game, not after they already played one match in the finals ffs. On February 10 2011 09:06 Viperxx wrote: I would also like to say the casters were EXTREMELY unprofessional... to the point that I would advise anyone interested to never watch again, they were that bad. Just my opinion, sorry if anyone takes that offensively, I just feel you can be unbiased/professional while casting a tourny. Which of the casts did you watch, just for reference? Imbatv or Special Endrey? | ||
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
On February 10 2011 09:03 avilo wrote: ..... Every post you make reduces the credibility, better put your stuff together after you talk with the admins and make 1 single post. would be better, now you are only giving everyone ground to call you things. | ||
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trashcan
Mauritania56 Posts
On February 10 2011 08:57 tree.hugger wrote: People seem to be forgetting that Gomas, who is a Polish player (late at night for him), is waiting for this series to finish. You cannot allow one player to wait for two hours just to allow a de facto stalemate to work itself out. This cuts both ways, at which point does being fair to Avilo and Beastyqt mean being unfair to Gomas. I think Beasty's BM was poor form, but Avilo really needed to accept a draw in that situation. No, he doesn't need to accept a draw. If they don't want long games, make a rule about it. Don't come an hour+ into a game and force a draw on a game that was CLEARLY not a draw at that point. Tournaments should not dictate to a player how they're allowed to play the game. You work around the game, not force your opinion on players as to what a proper game of SC2 should be. Gomas is not in this conversation at all. If it comes down to Gomas having to leave due to delay, a rescheduled finals would have been fine in my opinion. Yeah, it would mess with CraftCup planning, but oh well, it's better than what ended up happening. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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