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Jacuzzi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States528 Posts
September 30 2010 19:36 GMT
#741
The real winner of this tournament is clearly Junkka. His chair buff is totally imba.
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
September 30 2010 19:49 GMT
#742
On October 01 2010 04:02 adeezy wrote:
i find it funny that some people have claimed that the ceiling for starcraft 2 is a lot lower than brood war because of the things blizzard has done to make it more friendly to other users. Such as all the shift clicking and big control groups. If these brood war players are playing at this high of a level I can only imagine the likes of Jaedong and Flash. The ceiling is far from being reached!

Apparently it's easier to reach, but the game hasn't been out for that long ofcourse. Atleast, the word is that that is true for terran and protoss, while the ceiling for zerg is much higher.. no comment on balance, just that zerg is harder to play and master.
here i am
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
September 30 2010 20:59 GMT
#743
Really there's no point in speculating, if you think you've reached it just win all the GSLs until the game dies. Otherwise, keep practicing.
hydraden
Profile Joined April 2010
United States719 Posts
September 30 2010 21:04 GMT
#744
On October 01 2010 05:59 Redmark wrote:
Really there's no point in speculating, if you think you've reached it just win all the GSLs until the game dies. Otherwise, keep practicing.


Unless top 20 in the world reach the skill ceiling next year, then the GSL champion will only depend on luck and psychology.
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1601 Posts
September 30 2010 21:58 GMT
#745
Not a single current player has hit the ceiling of their individual race.
They are not even close.
GSL champion depends on who has mastered their race the best currently.

Btw wtf was up with ensnare today?
Vs a FE player isn't it a rule that you must have a build to KILL them (3 or 4 rax) or mirror the FE?
Wtf was up with the 111 build? It worked one game because of close positions, but seriously why not keep exposing his weakness or if you think you are the better player FE better than he does?
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 30 2010 22:03 GMT
#746
On October 01 2010 06:58 NoobSkills wrote:
Not a single current player has hit the ceiling of their individual race.
They are not even close.
GSL champion depends on who has mastered their race the best currently.

Btw wtf was up with ensnare today?
Vs a FE player isn't it a rule that you must have a build to KILL them (3 or 4 rax) or mirror the FE?
Wtf was up with the 111 build? It worked one game because of close positions, but seriously why not keep exposing his weakness or if you think you are the better player FE better than he does?


He stated in the interview that he didn't practice much against that buid. Maybe the extent of not practicing was so far that he really didn't know what to do against it.
Yargh
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1601 Posts
September 30 2010 22:27 GMT
#747
On October 01 2010 07:03 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2010 06:58 NoobSkills wrote:
Not a single current player has hit the ceiling of their individual race.
They are not even close.
GSL champion depends on who has mastered their race the best currently.

Btw wtf was up with ensnare today?
Vs a FE player isn't it a rule that you must have a build to KILL them (3 or 4 rax) or mirror the FE?
Wtf was up with the 111 build? It worked one game because of close positions, but seriously why not keep exposing his weakness or if you think you are the better player FE better than he does?


He stated in the interview that he didn't practice much against that buid. Maybe the extent of not practicing was so far that he really didn't know what to do against it.


Interesting I did not see his interview, but that does not explain his lack of evolution in the games.
In a 1v1 mirroring is always a good solution if you think you can play better than your opponent.
Also you have to think he has opened 3 or 4 rax before.

With that it would have either given him an easy win and after that continued to give him easy wins or if Rainbow switched to 3 rax as well it would then the winner would be the better player not the person who chose the better build order.
bananafever
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria348 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-30 22:48:58
September 30 2010 22:48 GMT
#748
On September 30 2010 23:12 JunkkaGom wrote:
I have just watched the interview again and I did make mistranslation.
In his answer to the 2nd question Hope meant to say that he and Fruit both enjoy the game which is the reason he thinks Fruit is different(from other zerg players he knows). I thought that he meant that was the difference btw him and Fruit. My apologies



when someone gives long answers.. translate every 5 sentences.. way easier, even pros make it like that.. btw you're doing fine imo ...
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1601 Posts
September 30 2010 22:50 GMT
#749
I think when translating live it is probably wise to give a summary of the information rather than trying for a direct translation.
bananafever
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria348 Posts
September 30 2010 22:54 GMT
#750
On October 01 2010 07:50 NoobSkills wrote:
I think when translating live it is probably wise to give a summary of the information rather than trying for a direct translation.


this is not prime time tv.. i want to now exactly how the gamers are answering to technical questions =))) this is nerd tv man it's not important what usually would be "probably wise" :D
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
September 30 2010 23:56 GMT
#751
game 1: sexy solid play from Ensnare against HopeTorture's risky fast expo.

game 2: nice macro from HopeTortue and double-pronged medivac drop.

game 3: HopeTorture goes for a fast expo for the third straight time and it worked again, he was ahead the entire game. Ensnare tried a thor rush but marauders took care of it pretty easily even with Ensnare's scvs repairing it.

game 4: HopeTorture does the fast expo again and Ensnare doesn't have an answer for it. HopeTorture convincingly showed superior techniques in this series.

Can't wait for the finals this saturday, should be so awesome!
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
KevinAce
Profile Joined May 2010
United States101 Posts
October 01 2010 00:15 GMT
#752
I am/was pumped for the finals too....but damnit I am leaving Seoul to go to Busan this weekend so I'll miss the finals...and I'm leaving Korea to go to back to the US for a month next week, so I'll miss GSL season 2! F***
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ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
October 01 2010 01:08 GMT
#753
theme of the finals is gonna be Skittles
fuck lag
gatz
Profile Joined September 2010
10 Posts
October 01 2010 04:50 GMT
#754
Are there any games coming up later tonight? Someone on the ICCup stream said there would be a few but GOM.TV says in 1 day and 4 hours...
smegged
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia213 Posts
October 01 2010 05:19 GMT
#755
On September 30 2010 23:12 JunkkaGom wrote:
I have just watched the interview again and I did make mistranslation.
In his answer to the 2nd question Hope meant to say that he and Fruit both enjoy the game which is the reason he thinks Fruit is different(from other zerg players he knows). I thought that he meant that was the difference btw him and Fruit. My apologies


Well I'd like to thank you for the work that you're doing man. Translation between Korean and English is not easy as there is not only the language barrier but the cultural one as well.

Keep up the good work.
"I'm usually happy when I can see Dark Templar, Its when I can't see them that I get angry." - Altar
smegged
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia213 Posts
October 01 2010 05:20 GMT
#756
On September 30 2010 20:34 JunkkaGom wrote:
Fruitdealer did say he would prefer to fight ITR rather than ensnare. One of the reporters mentioned this to ITR and he answered "that's what he thinks. He will see on saturday"


Love it

I'm hoping that Fruit Dealer comes out ahead though. For the Swarm!
"I'm usually happy when I can see Dark Templar, Its when I can't see them that I get angry." - Altar
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
October 01 2010 05:24 GMT
#757
To repeat what many people are saying, my heart wants Cool to win, but my mind thinks that ITR will win.
-
Unfurl
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States272 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-01 09:20:30
October 01 2010 09:16 GMT
#758
cmon fruit baby ;D
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