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MaBe
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States97 Posts
September 10 2010 12:10 GMT
#1641
[image loading]

Suck at image manipulation but great at t-shirt wearing. Something to keep in mind.
Still Not Hot_Bid
Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
September 10 2010 12:10 GMT
#1642
On September 10 2010 21:08 Pudge_172 wrote:
Watch Day9 cast and compare it to Tasteless and at this moment Day9 is clearly better.

Especially when it comes to camera control and vision checks and calling units/buildings/abilities by their correct name.
Go debate the casters somewhere else, Day9 has nothing to do with the GSL. People like different things in casters.
DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
September 10 2010 12:10 GMT
#1643
On September 10 2010 21:05 Dommk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2010 21:02 vyyye wrote:
Why do so many opt for colossi over HTs? Feels like every PvT I've seen recently vikings just ruin the Ps day when he goes colossi, while HTs tend to ruin the terrans day.


Haha I love this, if he went HT and lost to T due to EMP, people will be complaining that he didn't get Colossi. Almost all T games have been T steam rolling the other race, very rarely have you seen T actually outplay as well people like Tester, Inca, etc have


Ghosts are a pain in the ass to produce because of their cost and you're actually in a losing position fighting feedback with emp, given equal micro. Either way at least you don't just get pounded by vikings from eight hundred miles away, and actually have a fighting chance.
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
September 10 2010 12:10 GMT
#1644
On September 10 2010 21:07 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2010 21:05 Dommk wrote:
On September 10 2010 21:02 vyyye wrote:
Why do so many opt for colossi over HTs? Feels like every PvT I've seen recently vikings just ruin the Ps day when he goes colossi, while HTs tend to ruin the terrans day.


Haha I love this, if he went HT and lost to T due to EMP, people will be complaining that he didn't get Colossi. Almost all T games have been T steam rolling the other race, very rarely have you seen T actually outplay as well people like Tester, Inca, etc have

Yeah, okay. HTs are useless vs T I suppose, along with colossi. Stalkers suck as well, because marauders can kill them. Oh and zealots are awful, because of concussive shell. Sentries are also useless, because you can EMP those too.
Or maybe you're just whining, who knows?


Maybe the game is balanced, but we don't get satisfaction watching it as it is now. It rather upsets than makes you "WoW, that was incredible!".
Its grack
alkampfer
Profile Joined May 2010
116 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 12:12:09
September 10 2010 12:11 GMT
#1645
this is getting ridicolous, terran has so many advantages against Protoss.

I don't want to rage after every f**** PvT , so i'll stop watching GSL.

Terran is soooo IMBA atm
OnTheFly
Profile Joined July 2010
33 Posts
September 10 2010 12:12 GMT
#1646
On September 10 2010 21:10 MaBe wrote:
[image loading]

Suck at image manipulation but great at t-shirt wearing. Something to keep in mind.


Mwahahahahaha that was hillarious.
mick85
Profile Joined September 2010
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 12:13:15
September 10 2010 12:12 GMT
#1647
On September 10 2010 21:03 dbddbddb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2010 21:02 Elwar wrote:
Again something I don't understand. These korean protoss using colossi and always losing. Colossi are only good if you catch the terran with their pants down, at least HT have a fighting chance of dealing damage...


if protoss gets colosuss, terran counters with vikings.
if protoss gtes HT, terran counters with ghost


To all the PvT Imbalance whiners i got to recommend the esl vod
of the intel extreme masters german qualification from yesterday

http://tv.esl.eu/de/vod/22398


I think Sockes PvT proofs some of you wrong.
DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
September 10 2010 12:13 GMT
#1648
On September 10 2010 21:11 alkampfer wrote:
this is getting ridicolous, terran has so many advantages against Protoss.

I don't want to rage after every f**** PvT , so i'll stop watching GSL.

Terran is soooo IMBA atm


Good.
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 12:13:56
September 10 2010 12:13 GMT
#1649
On September 10 2010 21:08 ZapRoffo wrote:
Racial matchups so far:
TvZ: 2-2
ZvP: 3-3
PvT: 2-7


nm
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
September 10 2010 12:16 GMT
#1650
On September 10 2010 21:13 Cade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2010 21:08 ZapRoffo wrote:
Racial matchups so far:
TvZ: 2-2
ZvP: 3-3
PvT: 2-7


nm

And the two P's were Tester and Inca, probably the best players in the tournament...

Ghosts are a pain in the ass to produce because of their cost and you're actually in a losing position fighting feedback with emp, given equal micro. Either way at least you don't just get pounded by vikings from eight hundred miles away, and actually have a fighting chance.


Yeah, 10range Aoe Vs 9 range target Feedback, "losing postion...given equal micro", right.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
September 10 2010 12:16 GMT
#1651
Considering that the Terran player took an expansion way ahead of the protoss, it pretty logical that he could macro up a larger army. And I think he had a good Viking positioning too.

I don't think the Protoss player play very bad in game 2, the Terran player just has better timing and game sense of when to expand.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 12:18:33
September 10 2010 12:17 GMT
#1652
On September 10 2010 21:12 mick85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2010 21:03 dbddbddb wrote:
On September 10 2010 21:02 Elwar wrote:
Again something I don't understand. These korean protoss using colossi and always losing. Colossi are only good if you catch the terran with their pants down, at least HT have a fighting chance of dealing damage...


if protoss gets colosuss, terran counters with vikings.
if protoss gtes HT, terran counters with ghost


To all the PvT Imbalance whiners i got to recommend the esl vod
of the intel extreme masters german qualification from yesterday

http://tv.esl.eu/de/vod/22398


I think Sockes PvT proofs some of you wrong.


yeah... outside of the weird cheese games on tuesday i havent seen him lose a tvp since ages.

he beat bratok and totally demolished demuslim.


2nd game vs demuslim was quite damn cool. def worth checking out.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Cranberries
Profile Joined July 2010
Wales567 Posts
September 10 2010 12:17 GMT
#1653
On September 10 2010 21:16 Veldril wrote:
Considering that the Terran player took an expansion way ahead of the protoss, it pretty logical that he could macro up a larger army. And I think he had a good Viking positioning too.

I don't think the Protoss player play very bad in game 2, the Terran player just has better timing and game sense of when to expand.


It's easier for the Terran to expand because there's no threat of medivac drops or siege tank drops. That's what you meant.
Tiax;mous
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
669 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 12:20:22
September 10 2010 12:19 GMT
#1654
On September 10 2010 21:12 mick85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2010 21:03 dbddbddb wrote:
On September 10 2010 21:02 Elwar wrote:
Again something I don't understand. These korean protoss using colossi and always losing. Colossi are only good if you catch the terran with their pants down, at least HT have a fighting chance of dealing damage...


if protoss gets colosuss, terran counters with vikings.
if protoss gtes HT, terran counters with ghost


To all the PvT Imbalance whiners i got to recommend the esl vod
of the intel extreme masters german qualification from yesterday

http://tv.esl.eu/de/vod/22398


I think Sockes PvT proofs some of you wrong.


No offence but i believe you ( as lots of other terran player ) are missing the point. No one is claiming that terran pushes are unstoppable or P can't win it no matter what. Problem is stopping a Terran bio-push as Protoss requires much more concentration , action , perfection and effort than making that push. And that becomes a problem if your opponent is good and you're not Tester or at least Socke.
Still i believe TvP is the most fun match up ,especially in pro games.
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
September 10 2010 12:20 GMT
#1655
Results so far are actually:

ZvT: 1-3
ZvP: 3-3
PvT: 2-8
Karius
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany6 Posts
September 10 2010 12:21 GMT
#1656
On September 10 2010 21:06 Kaluba wrote:
Hi,
can i get the 2nd TLO game somewhere else? I can only see the first game on gom.tv. Are the replays uploaded somewhere? thx in advance


On the bottom left side of the streaming Window you can find the Buttons: "Set1" "Set2" "Set3" where you can switch to the next game. Sadly you need to pay to be able to view all games after the first one.

Hope that helps.
Plaguuuuuuuuuuuuuueee!!!!
FuryX
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia495 Posts
September 10 2010 12:22 GMT
#1657
Whats the name of the song they play at the end of the GOL?
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 12:27:31
September 10 2010 12:24 GMT
#1658
On September 10 2010 21:17 Cranberries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2010 21:16 Veldril wrote:
Considering that the Terran player took an expansion way ahead of the protoss, it pretty logical that he could macro up a larger army. And I think he had a good Viking positioning too.

I don't think the Protoss player play very bad in game 2, the Terran player just has better timing and game sense of when to expand.


It's easier for the Terran to expand because there's no threat of medivac drops or siege tank drops. That's what you meant.


To a certain extent, yeah. It's because of the map too, since the back expansion is quite easy to defend and if you can't really attack, expanding is pretty much logical choice.

Protoss could break a rock earlier so he can expand behind. It would risk a drop from medivacs but I still think it's better than engaging Terran in the wide space area (and if you have observer, you could spot his drop and high ground around the back expansion too).

All in all, I don't think that map favor Protoss in PvT if the protoss decide to go for a robotic tech.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
September 10 2010 12:24 GMT
#1659
On September 10 2010 21:17 Cranberries wrote:
It's easier for the Terran to expand because there's no threat of medivac drops or siege tank drops. That's what you meant.


actually on this map it's easier for terran to expand because they can build the CC in their base and while destroying the rocks in the back - protoss can only expo in the "very" open front
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
September 10 2010 12:28 GMT
#1660
On September 10 2010 21:17 Cranberries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2010 21:16 Veldril wrote:
Considering that the Terran player took an expansion way ahead of the protoss, it pretty logical that he could macro up a larger army. And I think he had a good Viking positioning too.

I don't think the Protoss player play very bad in game 2, the Terran player just has better timing and game sense of when to expand.


It's easier for the Terran to expand because there's no threat of medivac drops or siege tank drops. That's what you meant.


There's also no risk of pure marines+scv early aggression, bunker rush, reaper rush, banshee rush, marines + tank rush, MM rush and so on, the fact here is a question of possible initial THREADS ... T has so many options and almost all of them will just close the game right there. This is not fair and can not lead to a game with equal possibility for the players.

I have played 2 games as T in my life, i faced 2 Platinum P in friendly match and won both games in 5 minutes just rushing marines and scv .... it was so fucking easy. This shouldn't happen.
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