EPTBecause it's a well known, established fact and clearly testable that stalkers shit on roaches? Seriously, why are you debating this? He won, by doing this strategy because he outplayed his P opponent and got away with having great macro. Every engagement between arms except for 1 or 2 went completely against him because of it.
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
Because it's a well known, established fact and clearly testable that stalkers shit on roaches? Seriously, why are you debating this? He won, by doing this strategy because he outplayed his P opponent and got away with having great macro. Every engagement between arms except for 1 or 2 went completely against him because of it. | ||
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Vokasak
United States388 Posts
On September 08 2010 20:40 JamesKEenan wrote: What will the Hydras melt to? The colossi? He had corruptors. Corruptors are a good decision. But Corruptors and *HYDRAS*. Hydras are the superior ground army. There isn't a debate. Hydras > Stalkers > Roach. That isn't actually debatable. Roaches can make a fine front line. Hydras are your actual dps. With corruptors, maybe, but he threw away all the corruptors he had, several times. He had 0 corrupors more often than not. I've seen plenty of zergs with without hydras (including that last game, incidently!) | ||
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ZapRoffo
United States5544 Posts
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SpavaM
Croatia175 Posts
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Reuental
United States457 Posts
On September 08 2010 20:40 I_Love_Bacon wrote: So he won because roaches are fine against that unit composition or he outplayed his opponent. Which one makes sense and which one doesn't? Starcraft is not about having the perfect unit combination. The speed of the hydras is so stupidly slow that roaches are better for counter attacks and general flanking. Hydras just get wrecked by colo so bad its not even funny. The zerg abused the extra mobility of the roach and thats why it was the correct unit composition. You are correct that it is the correct composition for fighting Ps army in a straight up battle though. | ||
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NeoLearner
Belgium1847 Posts
On September 08 2010 20:43 ZapRoffo wrote: Mass spine crawlers wow, 5 or 6 at fat ramp now. 8 mutas on the field. He's going to have to do damage with this or risk being contained... | ||
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ZapRoffo
United States5544 Posts
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Pyre
United States1940 Posts
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Vokasak
United States388 Posts
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leveller
Sweden1840 Posts
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JamesKEenan
United States69 Posts
Hydras beat Stalkers. Stalkers beat Roaches. And let's not forget the Immortals. It was a mistake not to get Hydras. That's it. Did you see the very last fight? He had like 3 times the army with his roaches, and still lost. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On September 08 2010 20:44 Crabman123 wrote: Starcraft is not about having the perfect unit combination. The speed of the hydras is so stupidly slow that roaches are better for counter attacks and general flanking. Hydras just get wrecked by colo so bad its not even funny. The zerg abused the extra mobility of the roach and thats why it was the correct unit composition. You are correct that it is the correct composition for fighting Ps army in a straight up battle though. The protoss seldom had his army in a good position and never really built up static D at it. A decent size control group of lings accomplish the same thing, and I'm not saying "lol go pure hydra". But to simply not put hydras into your unit composition is a mistake. I've talked about this enough already though; everybody knows what's up and the horse is dead. | ||
Wunder
United Kingdom2950 Posts
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ZapRoffo
United States5544 Posts
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SpavaM
Croatia175 Posts
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NeoLearner
Belgium1847 Posts
On September 08 2010 20:46 ZapRoffo wrote: Protoss death ball moves into zerg nat and kills it, marches into main, mutas are doing little damage in toss main. Game over basically. Base trade with army vs Mutalisks? Good luck with that  | ||
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amorpheus
Bulgaria2144 Posts
is it only idra, cool and just one more that made it through? | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On September 08 2010 20:42 I_Love_Bacon wrote: Because it's a well known, established fact and clearly testable that stalkers shit on roaches? Seriously, why are you debating this? He won, by doing this strategy because he outplayed his P opponent and got away with having great macro. Every engagement between arms except for 1 or 2 went completely against him because of it. Maybe his plan was to not seek any direct encounters? Hydras are much better than Roaches vs Gateways in straight up fights, nobody will deny that. But when you go that counterattack-style Roaches fit much better than slow Hydras. | ||
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
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