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bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
September 08 2010 11:38 GMT
#1081
On September 08 2010 20:36 JamesKEenan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 20:34 sleepingdog wrote:
no offense to terrans and no balance-talk intended here:

but seriously, ZvP currently is the most exciting match-up to watch imo; if the P doesn't go for 2 gate pressure there are almost always longer macro-based matches that are fun to watch


It's the best because it doesn't include Terran. (Ha, I said it!)


No, I've seen some amazing ZvTs.


See protoss don't whine when they lose to zerg. And zergs don't whine on protoss too. There is the balance.
Its grack
NeoLearner
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Belgium1847 Posts
September 08 2010 11:38 GMT
#1082
On September 08 2010 20:37 ZapRoffo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 20:36 NeoLearner wrote:
I was wrong last game, but I'm once again going to call 2 gate

Don't really understand why he went 1 gate core in the last game...

Nope 1 gate core again.


LOL That guy is the the Idra-Toss. I guess he really doesnt like early aggression...
Bankai - Correlation does not imply causation
Macabre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1262 Posts
September 08 2010 11:38 GMT
#1083
haha.. artosis is so arrogant
Those who know how to think need no teachers. Tasteless - I think I'll take my shirt off and let my muscles do the casting
wristuzi
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1168 Posts
September 08 2010 11:38 GMT
#1084
Too many chipmunk jokes lol... Though I think the zerg should've made more lings.
MarineKingPrime ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Naniwa ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Morrow
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 11:38:37
September 08 2010 11:38 GMT
#1085
ZvP and TvZ I rather like, PvT seems to get boring to me pretty much every late-game. And I'm not a fan of mirror matches
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Vokasak
Profile Joined July 2010
United States388 Posts
September 08 2010 11:38 GMT
#1086
On September 08 2010 20:37 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 20:36 Vokasak wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:33 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:30 Vokasak wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:30 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:28 Punkstar wrote:
bah these zerg really seems to hate hydras


His army is 3/4 stalker. Makes no sense that they're not getting hydras. Just boggles my mind.


Against 3 or so colossi, that's just throwing money away.


Yeah, because those roaches are doing well. What are you smoking? He doesn't have a lot (or any at some point) forcefields to funnel all of the zerg units which cuts down the Col's strength. An arc of the hydras w/ roach/ling can beat that arm yeasily. He's losing because he roach aren't great against either of those.


Colossi don't need to funnel against hydras. Hydras arange themselves in a nice firing line which fits perfectly with the colossus firing pattern. Three swipes from a colossus and five hydras burn to death.

Roaches were doing fine. He won, so I don't think he needs any advice from you or me.


He won because he had 4 expansions while denying the protoss; not because roaches were doing well in battles. Roaches get destroyed by stalker... this isn't even debatable. His unit composition was poor the entire game. Stop defending it and accept it.


Watching hydras huff and puff around only to get melted in five seconds is better? The roaches were doing fine. How can you argue with the results?
Practical wisdom is the combination of moral will and moral skill
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
September 08 2010 11:39 GMT
#1087
On September 08 2010 20:38 Dionyseus wrote:
1/4th of 25 minerals is like 5 minerals ;p


More like 6?
Revolutionist fan
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 11:39:37
September 08 2010 11:39 GMT
#1088
3 warp gates up for P, forge starting, now nexus.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
September 08 2010 11:39 GMT
#1089
On September 08 2010 20:35 Salteador Neo wrote:
The "being revealed" part kinda killed this epic game :S

GG

Yeah, I don't like this. In a base trade situation it can be the difference between winning and losing. It really lets Terran win without contest in these situations since they can lift their CC.
$♥$
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
September 08 2010 11:40 GMT
#1090
is it just me, or both of these guys deserve to get knocked out of the tournament?
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
September 08 2010 11:40 GMT
#1091
On September 08 2010 20:38 Vokasak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 20:37 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:36 Vokasak wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:33 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:30 Vokasak wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:30 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:28 Punkstar wrote:
bah these zerg really seems to hate hydras


His army is 3/4 stalker. Makes no sense that they're not getting hydras. Just boggles my mind.


Against 3 or so colossi, that's just throwing money away.


Yeah, because those roaches are doing well. What are you smoking? He doesn't have a lot (or any at some point) forcefields to funnel all of the zerg units which cuts down the Col's strength. An arc of the hydras w/ roach/ling can beat that arm yeasily. He's losing because he roach aren't great against either of those.


Colossi don't need to funnel against hydras. Hydras arange themselves in a nice firing line which fits perfectly with the colossus firing pattern. Three swipes from a colossus and five hydras burn to death.

Roaches were doing fine. He won, so I don't think he needs any advice from you or me.


He won because he had 4 expansions while denying the protoss; not because roaches were doing well in battles. Roaches get destroyed by stalker... this isn't even debatable. His unit composition was poor the entire game. Stop defending it and accept it.


Watching hydras huff and puff around only to get melted in five seconds is better? The roaches were doing fine. How can you argue with the results?


So he won because roaches are fine against that unit composition or he outplayed his opponent. Which one makes sense and which one doesn't?
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
JamesKEenan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States69 Posts
September 08 2010 11:40 GMT
#1092
On September 08 2010 20:38 Vokasak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 20:37 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:36 Vokasak wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:33 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:30 Vokasak wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:30 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:28 Punkstar wrote:
bah these zerg really seems to hate hydras


His army is 3/4 stalker. Makes no sense that they're not getting hydras. Just boggles my mind.


Against 3 or so colossi, that's just throwing money away.


Yeah, because those roaches are doing well. What are you smoking? He doesn't have a lot (or any at some point) forcefields to funnel all of the zerg units which cuts down the Col's strength. An arc of the hydras w/ roach/ling can beat that arm yeasily. He's losing because he roach aren't great against either of those.


Colossi don't need to funnel against hydras. Hydras arange themselves in a nice firing line which fits perfectly with the colossus firing pattern. Three swipes from a colossus and five hydras burn to death.

Roaches were doing fine. He won, so I don't think he needs any advice from you or me.


He won because he had 4 expansions while denying the protoss; not because roaches were doing well in battles. Roaches get destroyed by stalker... this isn't even debatable. His unit composition was poor the entire game. Stop defending it and accept it.


Watching hydras huff and puff around only to get melted in five seconds is better? The roaches were doing fine. How can you argue with the results?


What will the Hydras melt to? The colossi?

He had corruptors. Corruptors are a good decision. But Corruptors and *HYDRAS*.

Hydras are the superior ground army. There isn't a debate. Hydras > Stalkers > Roach.

That isn't actually debatable. Roaches can make a fine front line. Hydras are your actual dps.
Fukinkou
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden266 Posts
September 08 2010 11:40 GMT
#1093
On September 08 2010 20:39 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 20:38 Dionyseus wrote:
1/4th of 25 minerals is like 5 minerals ;p


More like 6?


More like 6.25?
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
September 08 2010 11:40 GMT
#1094
On September 08 2010 20:38 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 20:36 Crabman123 wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:35 Salteador Neo wrote:
The "being revealed" part kinda killed this epic game :S

GG


Not really. It was over with at that point.


If it weren't for that, the protoss wouldn't have gone back to his base to try and save the nexus


No, regardless of being revealed, it was a horrible, horrible idea. He had a chance of winning if he base traded.
Vokasak
Profile Joined July 2010
United States388 Posts
September 08 2010 11:40 GMT
#1095
On September 08 2010 20:40 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 20:38 Vokasak wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:37 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:36 Vokasak wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:33 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:30 Vokasak wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:30 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:28 Punkstar wrote:
bah these zerg really seems to hate hydras


His army is 3/4 stalker. Makes no sense that they're not getting hydras. Just boggles my mind.


Against 3 or so colossi, that's just throwing money away.


Yeah, because those roaches are doing well. What are you smoking? He doesn't have a lot (or any at some point) forcefields to funnel all of the zerg units which cuts down the Col's strength. An arc of the hydras w/ roach/ling can beat that arm yeasily. He's losing because he roach aren't great against either of those.


Colossi don't need to funnel against hydras. Hydras arange themselves in a nice firing line which fits perfectly with the colossus firing pattern. Three swipes from a colossus and five hydras burn to death.

Roaches were doing fine. He won, so I don't think he needs any advice from you or me.


He won because he had 4 expansions while denying the protoss; not because roaches were doing well in battles. Roaches get destroyed by stalker... this isn't even debatable. His unit composition was poor the entire game. Stop defending it and accept it.


Watching hydras huff and puff around only to get melted in five seconds is better? The roaches were doing fine. How can you argue with the results?


So he won because roaches are fine against that unit composition or he outplayed his opponent. Which one makes sense and which one doesn't?


Why is it one or the other? -_-
Practical wisdom is the combination of moral will and moral skill
NeoLearner
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Belgium1847 Posts
September 08 2010 11:41 GMT
#1096
On September 08 2010 20:40 Geo.Rion wrote:
is it just me, or both of these guys deserve to get knocked out of the tournament?


I think Inca will take care of that next round...
Bankai - Correlation does not imply causation
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 11:42:01
September 08 2010 11:41 GMT
#1097
Chipmunk expects a push, has 3 crawlers at his fat ramp. Toss is poking at it but backing to mid. Robo and 4th gate going up.

Spire for Z.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
JamesKEenan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States69 Posts
September 08 2010 11:41 GMT
#1098
On September 08 2010 20:40 Geo.Rion wrote:
is it just me, or both of these guys deserve to get knocked out of the tournament?


Agreed, completely. It seems that in the case of these guys, they only made it past the qualifiers because *someone* had to win.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
September 08 2010 11:41 GMT
#1099
On September 08 2010 20:40 Fukinkou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 20:39 Salteador Neo wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:38 Dionyseus wrote:
1/4th of 25 minerals is like 5 minerals ;p


More like 6?


More like 6.25?


In the SC2 world 6.25 is 6 I think
Revolutionist fan
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
September 08 2010 11:42 GMT
#1100
3rd base at high ground going up for Chipmunk now.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
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