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On September 08 2010 20:33 I_Love_Bacon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2010 20:30 Vokasak wrote:On September 08 2010 20:30 I_Love_Bacon wrote:On September 08 2010 20:28 Punkstar wrote:
bah these zerg really seems to hate hydras His army is 3/4 stalker. Makes no sense that they're not getting hydras. Just boggles my mind. Against 3 or so colossi, that's just throwing money away. Yeah, because those roaches are doing well. What are you smoking? He doesn't have a lot (or any at some point) forcefields to funnel all of the zerg units which cuts down the Col's strength. An arc of the hydras w/ roach/ling can beat that arm yeasily. He's losing because he roach aren't great against either of those.
Maybe focus less on the absolute composition and counters but lingroach is way more mobile and cant do more flanks and counter attacks (which is what chipmunk did to win the game).
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Zerg still not looking happy after the game
tough opponent, but well deserved win
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On September 08 2010 20:33 JamesKEenan wrote:
Not to mention his unit comp is just not good. Protoss went stalkers. And you build... Roaches?!?!? Stalkers ALWAYS beat roaches 1 on 1 AND in numbers, because of range. Stalkers destroy roaches.
Hydras ruin stalkers.
I don't care if he won. It was a bad comp. Roaches are awesome for a front line. Their range and weakness to stalkers does not make them a good mass unit.
Just burrow and move under the stalkers, unburrow. Meanwhile corrupters destroy all the collusus.
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On September 08 2010 20:33 I_Love_Bacon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2010 20:30 Vokasak wrote:On September 08 2010 20:30 I_Love_Bacon wrote:On September 08 2010 20:28 Punkstar wrote:
bah these zerg really seems to hate hydras His army is 3/4 stalker. Makes no sense that they're not getting hydras. Just boggles my mind. Against 3 or so colossi, that's just throwing money away. Yeah, because those roaches are doing well. What are you smoking? He doesn't have a lot (or any at some point) forcefields to funnel all of the zerg units which cuts down the Col's strength. An arc of the hydras w/ roach/ling can beat that arm yeasily. He's losing because he roach aren't great against either of those.
Colossi don't need to funnel against hydras. Hydras arange themselves in a nice firing line which fits perfectly with the colossus firing pattern. Three swipes from a colossus and five hydras burn to death.
Roaches were doing fine. He won, so I don't think he needs any advice from you or me.
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On September 08 2010 20:34 sleepingdog wrote:
no offense to terrans and no balance-talk intended here:
but seriously, ZvP currently is the most exciting match-up to watch imo; if the P doesn't go for 2 gate pressure there are almost always longer macro-based matches that are fun to watch
It's the best because it doesn't include Terran. (Ha, I said it!)
No, I've seen some amazing ZvTs.
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Chipmunk with a gas steal.
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Chipmunk 7 pool this fucker!!!!
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i want chipmunk to make it far love the jokes.
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ZvP makes the best matches.
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I was wrong last game, but I'm once again going to call 2 gate 
Don't really understand why he went 1 gate core in the last game...
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On September 08 2010 20:35 Salteador Neo wrote:
The "being revealed" part kinda killed this epic game :S
GG
Not really. It was over with at that point.
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HAHA that gas steal right in front of the Ps face :D looked so funny
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On September 08 2010 20:36 NeoLearner wrote:I was wrong last game, but I'm once again going to call 2 gate Don't really understand why he went 1 gate core in the last game...
Nope 1 gate core again. boosting warp tech.
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On September 08 2010 20:36 Vokasak wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2010 20:33 I_Love_Bacon wrote:On September 08 2010 20:30 Vokasak wrote:On September 08 2010 20:30 I_Love_Bacon wrote:On September 08 2010 20:28 Punkstar wrote:
bah these zerg really seems to hate hydras His army is 3/4 stalker. Makes no sense that they're not getting hydras. Just boggles my mind. Against 3 or so colossi, that's just throwing money away. Yeah, because those roaches are doing well. What are you smoking? He doesn't have a lot (or any at some point) forcefields to funnel all of the zerg units which cuts down the Col's strength. An arc of the hydras w/ roach/ling can beat that arm yeasily. He's losing because he roach aren't great against either of those. Colossi don't need to funnel against hydras. Hydras arange themselves in a nice firing line which fits perfectly with the colossus firing pattern. Three swipes from a colossus and five hydras burn to death. Roaches were doing fine. He won, so I don't think he needs any advice from you or me.
He won because he had 4 expansions while denying the protoss; not because roaches were doing well in battles. Roaches get destroyed by stalker... this isn't even debatable. His unit composition was poor the entire game. Stop defending it and accept it.
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On September 08 2010 20:35 Dionyseus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2010 20:33 JamesKEenan wrote:
Not to mention his unit comp is just not good. Protoss went stalkers. And you build... Roaches?!?!? Stalkers ALWAYS beat roaches 1 on 1 AND in numbers, because of range. Stalkers destroy roaches.
Hydras ruin stalkers.
I don't care if he won. It was a bad comp. Roaches are awesome for a front line. Their range and weakness to stalkers does not make them a good mass unit. Just burrow and move under the stalkers, unburrow. Meanwhile corrupters destroy all the collusus.
Stalkers still beat roaches period. And you're burrowing under their army? That might work once *maybe*. Then he gets observers. And now you're burrowing under his superior army while he's taking out your mans. After they of course destroy the corruptors since they aren't taking damage from anything else. Like Hydras.
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On September 08 2010 20:36 Crabman123 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2010 20:35 Salteador Neo wrote:
The "being revealed" part kinda killed this epic game :S
GG Not really. It was over with at that point.
If it weren't for that, the protoss wouldn't have gone back to his base to try and save the nexus 
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1/4th of 25 minerals is like 5 minerals ;p
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