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Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
September 08 2010 11:35 GMT
#1061
On September 08 2010 20:33 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 20:30 Vokasak wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:30 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:28 Punkstar wrote:
bah these zerg really seems to hate hydras


His army is 3/4 stalker. Makes no sense that they're not getting hydras. Just boggles my mind.


Against 3 or so colossi, that's just throwing money away.


Yeah, because those roaches are doing well. What are you smoking? He doesn't have a lot (or any at some point) forcefields to funnel all of the zerg units which cuts down the Col's strength. An arc of the hydras w/ roach/ling can beat that arm yeasily. He's losing because he roach aren't great against either of those.


Maybe focus less on the absolute composition and counters but lingroach is way more mobile and cant do more flanks and counter attacks (which is what chipmunk did to win the game).
amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
September 08 2010 11:35 GMT
#1062
Zerg still not looking happy after the game
tough opponent, but well deserved win
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
September 08 2010 11:35 GMT
#1063
On September 08 2010 20:33 JamesKEenan wrote:
Not to mention his unit comp is just not good. Protoss went stalkers. And you build... Roaches?!?!? Stalkers ALWAYS beat roaches 1 on 1 AND in numbers, because of range. Stalkers destroy roaches.

Hydras ruin stalkers.

I don't care if he won. It was a bad comp. Roaches are awesome for a front line. Their range and weakness to stalkers does not make them a good mass unit.


Just burrow and move under the stalkers, unburrow. Meanwhile corrupters destroy all the collusus.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Vokasak
Profile Joined July 2010
United States388 Posts
September 08 2010 11:36 GMT
#1064
On September 08 2010 20:33 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 20:30 Vokasak wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:30 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:28 Punkstar wrote:
bah these zerg really seems to hate hydras


His army is 3/4 stalker. Makes no sense that they're not getting hydras. Just boggles my mind.


Against 3 or so colossi, that's just throwing money away.


Yeah, because those roaches are doing well. What are you smoking? He doesn't have a lot (or any at some point) forcefields to funnel all of the zerg units which cuts down the Col's strength. An arc of the hydras w/ roach/ling can beat that arm yeasily. He's losing because he roach aren't great against either of those.


Colossi don't need to funnel against hydras. Hydras arange themselves in a nice firing line which fits perfectly with the colossus firing pattern. Three swipes from a colossus and five hydras burn to death.

Roaches were doing fine. He won, so I don't think he needs any advice from you or me.
Practical wisdom is the combination of moral will and moral skill
JamesKEenan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States69 Posts
September 08 2010 11:36 GMT
#1065
On September 08 2010 20:34 sleepingdog wrote:
no offense to terrans and no balance-talk intended here:

but seriously, ZvP currently is the most exciting match-up to watch imo; if the P doesn't go for 2 gate pressure there are almost always longer macro-based matches that are fun to watch


It's the best because it doesn't include Terran. (Ha, I said it!)


No, I've seen some amazing ZvTs.
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
September 08 2010 11:36 GMT
#1066
Chipmunk with a gas steal.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
September 08 2010 11:36 GMT
#1067
Chipmunk 7 pool this fucker!!!!
drp223
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States170 Posts
September 08 2010 11:36 GMT
#1068
i want chipmunk to make it far love the jokes.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
September 08 2010 11:36 GMT
#1069
ZvP makes the best matches.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
NeoLearner
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Belgium1847 Posts
September 08 2010 11:36 GMT
#1070
I was wrong last game, but I'm once again going to call 2 gate

Don't really understand why he went 1 gate core in the last game...
Bankai - Correlation does not imply causation
SpavaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Croatia175 Posts
September 08 2010 11:36 GMT
#1071
lol Artosis
aka imagiNe... "What if Nydus worms could make my coffee, play 2v2 and close threads for me? That would be grand." - riptide
Reuental
Profile Joined July 2009
United States457 Posts
September 08 2010 11:36 GMT
#1072
On September 08 2010 20:35 Salteador Neo wrote:
The "being revealed" part kinda killed this epic game :S

GG


Not really. It was over with at that point.
I'm a Crab made of men.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50592 Posts
September 08 2010 11:37 GMT
#1073
panda bear?July Zerg?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
SlothOnPCP
Profile Joined August 2010
193 Posts
September 08 2010 11:37 GMT
#1074
Not Sauron Zerg.
"I think SlothOnPCP is a pretty cool guy. eh kills noobs and doesn’t afraid of anything…"
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
September 08 2010 11:37 GMT
#1075
HAHA that gas steal right in front of the Ps face :D looked so funny
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 11:37:53
September 08 2010 11:37 GMT
#1076
On September 08 2010 20:36 NeoLearner wrote:
I was wrong last game, but I'm once again going to call 2 gate

Don't really understand why he went 1 gate core in the last game...

Nope 1 gate core again. boosting warp tech.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
September 08 2010 11:37 GMT
#1077
On September 08 2010 20:36 Vokasak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 20:33 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:30 Vokasak wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:30 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On September 08 2010 20:28 Punkstar wrote:
bah these zerg really seems to hate hydras


His army is 3/4 stalker. Makes no sense that they're not getting hydras. Just boggles my mind.


Against 3 or so colossi, that's just throwing money away.


Yeah, because those roaches are doing well. What are you smoking? He doesn't have a lot (or any at some point) forcefields to funnel all of the zerg units which cuts down the Col's strength. An arc of the hydras w/ roach/ling can beat that arm yeasily. He's losing because he roach aren't great against either of those.


Colossi don't need to funnel against hydras. Hydras arange themselves in a nice firing line which fits perfectly with the colossus firing pattern. Three swipes from a colossus and five hydras burn to death.

Roaches were doing fine. He won, so I don't think he needs any advice from you or me.


He won because he had 4 expansions while denying the protoss; not because roaches were doing well in battles. Roaches get destroyed by stalker... this isn't even debatable. His unit composition was poor the entire game. Stop defending it and accept it.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
JamesKEenan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States69 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 11:38:36
September 08 2010 11:37 GMT
#1078
On September 08 2010 20:35 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 20:33 JamesKEenan wrote:
Not to mention his unit comp is just not good. Protoss went stalkers. And you build... Roaches?!?!? Stalkers ALWAYS beat roaches 1 on 1 AND in numbers, because of range. Stalkers destroy roaches.

Hydras ruin stalkers.

I don't care if he won. It was a bad comp. Roaches are awesome for a front line. Their range and weakness to stalkers does not make them a good mass unit.


Just burrow and move under the stalkers, unburrow. Meanwhile corrupters destroy all the collusus.


Stalkers still beat roaches period. And you're burrowing under their army? That might work once *maybe*. Then he gets observers. And now you're burrowing under his superior army while he's taking out your mans. After they of course destroy the corruptors since they aren't taking damage from anything else. Like Hydras.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
September 08 2010 11:38 GMT
#1079
On September 08 2010 20:36 Crabman123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 20:35 Salteador Neo wrote:
The "being revealed" part kinda killed this epic game :S

GG


Not really. It was over with at that point.


If it weren't for that, the protoss wouldn't have gone back to his base to try and save the nexus
Revolutionist fan
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
September 08 2010 11:38 GMT
#1080
1/4th of 25 minerals is like 5 minerals ;p
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
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