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Garalor
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany136 Posts
September 03 2010 08:35 GMT
#1461
the "HQ" video looks worse than ESL prem stream... and thats a shame for 20$

i hope i can find a restream
krynis
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada43 Posts
September 03 2010 08:54 GMT
#1462
don't misunderstand my position though, I can't afford it but I don't strictly think its a bad thing, people go on and on about how they want to support the community and larger prize pools, this helps pay for those prize pools, if I had not spent all my $ on a new cpu I'd sign up for a season.
cHicKeLoR
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany559 Posts
September 03 2010 08:56 GMT
#1463
is it possible to download the vods when you buy the vod ticket?
Innsmouth-Zerg
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria137 Posts
September 03 2010 08:58 GMT
#1464
No Replays, 30$ for low quality VOD's

no thank you.
stand up defend or lay down and die
Lighioana
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway466 Posts
September 03 2010 09:01 GMT
#1465
I have payed in the last month for premium IEM and MLG streams. But for GSL, just for the fact that there is no free stream plus the lag that normally is on GomTV, makes me really consider not paying for GSL.
And forgive me nothing for I truly meant it all
_EmIL_
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden138 Posts
September 03 2010 09:03 GMT
#1466
You have to start with a smaller number. Pretty frightening that you have to pay 50 bucks per season(month?) just to watch some games. I'd consider 50 bucks for a whole year as a good start.
Losing is winning
Escapist
Profile Joined July 2010
Portugal548 Posts
September 03 2010 09:04 GMT
#1467
Post made in GomTV GSL League forum:

"Q: Will GomTV release the replay files from the TG-Intel SC2 Open matches after those matches are over?"

"A: During the season, we have no plan to provide the replay videos duo to the exposure issue of player's strategy. After the season, we will consider to provide those videos if it entertains our users.
GOMtv_Admin"
EU / US / KR English Shoutcasted Matches 720p HD -> http://www.youtube.com/user/xHydrax
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 09:07:31
September 03 2010 09:06 GMT
#1468
On September 03 2010 17:58 Innsmouth-Zerg wrote:
No Replays, 30$ for low quality VOD's

no thank you.


The SC2 community is incredibly spoiled when it comes to replays. The BW community almost never got to witness progamer replays and I know a lot of people were angry when theirs' were somehow leaked.

edit: the guy above me explains it quite clearly: a player's strategies are exposed when replays become available. Remember this is NOT a small-purse tournament.
Vandro
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands384 Posts
September 03 2010 09:07 GMT
#1469
[image loading]

Wow, big difference ^^. Still not gonna buy it though, they must lower the price and I wanna get some feedback from other people about the quality of the stream
Lighioana
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway466 Posts
September 03 2010 09:08 GMT
#1470
On September 03 2010 13:31 Obelisk7 wrote:
Low quality free stream
HD paid high stream
Free VOD viewing

DVD/Blu-Ray merchandise with recorded live broadcasts, interviews, and behind the scenes.
Advertising team shirts to sale on the main site for all the pro teams.

THAT personally is what I would go for.

GomTV should put you in charge of this event
And forgive me nothing for I truly meant it all
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
September 03 2010 09:14 GMT
#1471
On September 03 2010 17:56 cHicKeLoR wrote:
is it possible to download the vods when you buy the vod ticket?


Even if it is not, you can always download it via Download Helper, it basicly record every bit of media that is on the page you are at
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
BrainDrained
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden35 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 09:16:02
September 03 2010 09:15 GMT
#1472
So, cant we do a poll about what should be a resonable price, take the winning option, and do a namelist with all the people saying:
"We would have payed **$ for your vods and livestreams but wont pay that mutch that you are charning now"
Then they will see how much money they have lost in their pricing.. If got all the names from the poll that said that they wont pay the current price (about 6000people) but would have payed lets say about 10$ theyll se that they now lost about 60000$ because of their current pricelevel.
Art_of_Kill
Profile Joined September 2003
Zaire1232 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 09:18:07
September 03 2010 09:17 GMT
#1473
On September 03 2010 17:23 Frankon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 17:18 Santi wrote:
The ability to buy tickets has been disabled. Maybe there is hope? If the show is tomorrow im sure they would be selling the tickets today.

it wouldnt be fair to the people who bought already

its prefectly fair, this people who buy are the one who destroys us the chance of a free stream
its obvious that if nobody buys their far to overpriced service that they will offer a free stream (freestream with ads will be better for them, then a payed stream without anyone who buys it)
so tell me where its unfair? it would be good that this people get a lesson

but i dont know, somehow i do not really care about gsl anymore
TLT07 ===> *winner* <===TLT08
Innsmouth-Zerg
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria137 Posts
September 03 2010 09:17 GMT
#1474
On September 03 2010 18:06 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 17:58 Innsmouth-Zerg wrote:
No Replays, 30$ for low quality VOD's

no thank you.


The SC2 community is incredibly spoiled when it comes to replays. The BW community almost never got to witness progamer replays and I know a lot of people were angry when theirs' were somehow leaked.

edit: the guy above me explains it quite clearly: a player's strategies are exposed when replays become available. Remember this is NOT a small-purse tournament.


I'm not "incredibly spoiled". I want replays so i can watch games that are not cast, so i can if i want to, listen to the commentary but move the mouse myself in the game.

I don't care about what the BW community got, this is SC2, this is my money.

I want a grantee from GOMTV to get a replay pack after the tournament.
Not some "yeah maybe we will release them maybe if enough people say they want them cause you know...stuff".
No.
"There will be a replay pack included if you purchase one of our products at they end of the season."

Anything less than that is worthless.
stand up defend or lay down and die
BasedSwag
Profile Joined April 2010
Algeria418 Posts
September 03 2010 09:24 GMT
#1475
On September 03 2010 16:23 ariK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 16:19 esperanto wrote:
Is it true that the streams wont be accessable for mac users?

I know u're thinking ("who cares about mac users") but 4 of the 7 ppl i know in real life playing sc2 are playing on a mac. I really would be curious about the ratio.


Yeah the gomplayer doesn't work on the mac. You'll have to use bootcamp if you wanna use it on a mac.


You don't need the GOM player to watch GOM streams. It will work fine on Mac.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
September 03 2010 09:31 GMT
#1476
On September 03 2010 18:06 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 17:58 Innsmouth-Zerg wrote:
No Replays, 30$ for low quality VOD's

no thank you.


The SC2 community is incredibly spoiled when it comes to replays. The BW community almost never got to witness progamer replays and I know a lot of people were angry when theirs' were somehow leaked.

edit: the guy above me explains it quite clearly: a player's strategies are exposed when replays become available. Remember this is NOT a small-purse tournament.


Its not the same thing at the moment, i wouldnt call anyone a "progamer" in sc2 yet. Top-players sure but not progamer as in the same meaning as it had in sc:bw (yes i know a progamer is someone who gets paid to play but in sc:bw it also ment having a progaming liscense and being ridiculously good)
Ianuus
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia349 Posts
September 03 2010 09:31 GMT
#1477
On September 03 2010 18:17 Innsmouth-Zerg wrote:

I'm not "incredibly spoiled". I want replays so i can watch games that are not cast, so i can if i want to, listen to the commentary but move the mouse myself in the game.

I don't care about what the BW community got, this is SC2, this is my money.



Yes you are. The players are not obliged to reveal their strategies and mechanics to the world. This isn't about you or your money, this is about the pro players and what they deserve. To think that this matter is about you means you're increadibly spoiled.
machinebloodprogram
Profile Joined December 2008
United States245 Posts
September 03 2010 09:36 GMT
#1478
On September 03 2010 18:31 Ianuus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 18:17 Innsmouth-Zerg wrote:

I'm not "incredibly spoiled". I want replays so i can watch games that are not cast, so i can if i want to, listen to the commentary but move the mouse myself in the game.

I don't care about what the BW community got, this is SC2, this is my money.



Yes you are. The players are not obliged to reveal their strategies and mechanics to the world. This isn't about you or your money, this is about the pro players and what they deserve. To think that this matter is about you means you're increadibly spoiled.


Wouldn't being able to review and study other strategies benefit the competitive scene rather than hinder it? It's done in nearly every sport.
Innsmouth-Zerg
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria137 Posts
September 03 2010 09:36 GMT
#1479
There would be no "Pro Gamers" no tournaments with big money output without a community "fans" behind them, and wanting to watch there games/replays.
Pro Gamers are nothing but "freaks" without a community supporting them.
It's the same with religion, believe in something strange and find 10 followers, you are a cult. Believe in something strange and find several million followers, and you are a religion.

But that aside, your argument is incredibly illogical anyway because what do you think is a stream or a VOD doing hmm?

If we would follow your logic it means no stream, no VOD's until the tournament is over.

GG you got beat by your own logic.
stand up defend or lay down and die
Ianuus
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia349 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 10:21:03
September 03 2010 09:43 GMT
#1480
On September 03 2010 18:36 machinebloodprogram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 18:31 Ianuus wrote:
On September 03 2010 18:17 Innsmouth-Zerg wrote:

I'm not "incredibly spoiled". I want replays so i can watch games that are not cast, so i can if i want to, listen to the commentary but move the mouse myself in the game.

I don't care about what the BW community got, this is SC2, this is my money.



Yes you are. The players are not obliged to reveal their strategies and mechanics to the world. This isn't about you or your money, this is about the pro players and what they deserve. To think that this matter is about you means you're increadibly spoiled.


Wouldn't being able to review and study other strategies benefit the competitive scene rather than hinder it? It's done in nearly every sport.


That's what vods are for. You're just not allowed a free pass into the players' brains.

On September 03 2010 18:36 Innsmouth-Zerg wrote:
There would be no "Pro Gamers" no tournaments with big money output without a community "fans" behind them, and wanting to watch there games/replays.
Pro Gamers are nothing but "freaks" without a community supporting them.
It's the same with religion, believe in something strange and find 10 followers, you are a cult. Believe in something strange and find several million followers, and you are a religion.

But that aside, your argument is incredibly illogical anyway because what do you think is a stream or a VOD doing hmm?

If we would follow your logic it means no stream, no VOD's until the tournament is over.

GG you got beat by your own logic.


Yeah, and the BW community got on fine without needing the replays of the progamers. Streams and vods are fine. I'd even say that replays without the players' PoV views are fine too. But when you add in the player's PoV camera, then it's too much.

You dare claim that the progamers are just nothing without you? How self-important do you have to be? How have you in any way contributed to the skills of boxer, nada or savior? Did you devise their strategies, did you drill their mechanics, did you forge their mental fortitude? It is we who owe the progamers for providing us with such glorious and beautiful games to appreciate and enjoy. Even if the community crumbled overnight, they would still be champions.

You just took my logic, twisted it into your own, and then sprouted a bunch of rubbish that obviously doesn't follow on from what I say. It's far from GG.

Also, "their* games/replays".
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