EPTguy is a real tool isnt he.
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
guy is a real tool isnt he. | ||
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
On August 23 2010 08:35 KamuL wrote: well he lost, and if anyone saw the games, he kept getting psi stuck and played terrible compared to the form he showed vs trump and in the previous games vs silver. shows up 30minutes before finals, and is told he has to paly silver, having played 0 games today to practice or warmup. You mean he has to play someone of the same race as his possible finals opponent? You mean he still played 0 games despite knowing he'd be playing in a final for a tournament? Stop making horrible excuses. lol. | ||
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crazeman
664 Posts
On August 23 2010 08:35 KamuL wrote: well he lost, and if anyone saw the games, he kept getting psi stuck and played terrible compared to the form he showed vs trump and in the previous games vs silver. shows up 30minutes before finals, and is told he has to paly silver, having played 0 games today to practice or warmup. That's stupid, the finals was originally supposed to start at 7 anyhow so he would of been playing in the final "without any warm up or practice". If you're going to make an excuse, at least make one that makes sense. | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On August 22 2010 18:13 KamuL wrote:+ Show Spoiler + chat-log from mTw.iNfernal and ls discussing if what he did was okay, given the situation. iajtls: idk man, i just talked to infernal -_-; iajtls: here iajtls: plus, tomorrow if i disc in the finals, i will concede no matter what -_-; Pat says: so why you give a fuck Nick says: cuz im trying to rebuild my rep -_-; Pat says: dude this is not just a game anymore this is serious business now theres lots of money in it dont you fucking waste money by beeing nice EVER Nick says: i know that Pat says: but tbh rather be a gay winner than a straight winner errmm loser* Pat says: if kolll hadnt given me a regame in WCG when 35 of my units got stuck via bug ok - its a HUGE bug but still if he hadnt given a regame he would probably be the one flying to la now instead of me  Nick says: yeah true Nick says: ok btw you see nada vs tlo? well im tired as fuck anyway i believed i had the advantage, ultimately tanks/maurauders + additional rax/port/fact + oribital cc FE is much better spot than him. viking will come out, and the thor only gets 1 depot. plus i had many more scvs, and mined much more. im too tired -_-;. Pat says: yep o.o O_O i'm shocked infernal is such trash. Yes serious money, 100 bucks. Who wouldnt agree to live a life as a cunt for a 100 bucks? I can't believe i ever gave Idra shit for being BM when dicks like these two are around. | ||
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KamuL
United States154 Posts
On August 23 2010 08:42 Alou wrote: You mean he has to play someone of the same race as his possible finals opponent? You mean he still played 0 games despite knowing he'd be playing in a final for a tournament? Stop making horrible excuses. lol. he said to silver in chat he respected his play, and considers him good as well. he does not however think the other opponent would be nearly as hard as trump or silver. so he didnt think he would need practice, since it was a bo5. (this is not offensive to lyra) On August 23 2010 08:39 Sfydjklm wrote: wow ajtls manages to stir controversy in every single tournament he enters? guy is a real tool isnt he. actually the controverary was from the admins/public, ajtls simply used a rule. edit - for the guy above me, it wasn't just infernal. it was many other top players who he asked immediately on msn. so i assume they're all trash too? you're forgetting silver is disliked by many top players, thanks to idra. whatever, he congrat'd silver after the game, but explained his anger. | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On August 23 2010 08:49 KamuL wrote: actually the controverary was from the admins/public, ajtls simply used a rule. And somehow it doesnt happen to other people just ajtls in every other tournament. The guy is a tool, i dunno what there is to discuss. for the guy above me, it wasn't just infernal. it was many other top players who he asked immediately on msn. so i assume they're all trash too? Somehow i think you're lying. I highly doubt Lastshadow even has many top player on his msn, his reputation hasnt been peachy in SCBW either you're forgetting silver is disliked by many top players, thanks to idra. What. | ||
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ICCup.Tesla
United States841 Posts
On August 23 2010 08:49 KamuL wrote: he said to silver in chat he respected his play, and considers him good as well. he does not however think the other opponent would be nearly as hard as trump or silver. so he didnt think he would need practice, since it was a bo5. (this is not offensive to lyra) actually the controverary was from the admins/public, ajtls simply used a rule. edit - for the guy above me, it wasn't just infernal. it was many other top players who he asked immediately on msn. so i assume they're all trash too? you're forgetting silver is disliked by many top players, thanks to idra. whatever, he congrat'd silver after the game, but explained his anger. Doesn't matter anymore. Please drop it as its done and over. We made them replay - Which was the only FAIR and RIGHT thing to do considering all things. He had a chance to play some practice matches as we told him BEFORE the finals. I tried to contact him OVER 1-2 hours prior to 7 pm est, that I wanted to talk to him in regards to the tournament. He didn't respond. Its not our fault he didnt have enough time to practice. He could have and didnt do it. Thus don't blame us for doing the RIGHT thing. Now drop it. Silver won and is in the finals. Thank you - Everyone else, please continue to enjoy the tournament. ^^ | ||
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KamuL
United States154 Posts
and this is the first tournament aside from wcg years ago, that ls has caused problems??? stop twisting things because you dont like him. | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On August 23 2010 08:57 KamuL wrote: I'm not so sure maphackers are good practice.lol it was really clear he was friends with a good majority of top players in sc1. the top players dont care about shit happened several years ago, especially since the kid can produce amazing results and good practice. and this is the first tournament aside from wcg years ago, that ls has caused problems??? stop twisting things because you dont like him. The Sith tournament just a week ago. | ||
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RxN
United States255 Posts
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KamuL
United States154 Posts
and going to the pm's i guess. but uh ls is perm-banned here for cheating/being an idiot years ago. so he doesn't bother to make an account. | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On August 23 2010 09:03 KamuL wrote: randoms have taken the win over in tournaments (iem#1/iem#2) and going to the pm's i guess. but uh ls is perm-banned here for cheating/being an idiot years ago. so he doesn't bother to make an account. and clearly he has no intentions to change. | ||
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reddog1999
United States143 Posts
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crazeman
664 Posts
On August 23 2010 08:49 KamuL wrote: he said to silver in chat he respected his play, and considers him good as well. he does not however think the other opponent would be nearly as hard as trump or silver. so he didnt think he would need practice, since it was a bo5. (this is not offensive to lyra) I thought he had to play poker to make money for rent so he doesn't have time to practice/warm up... He could of finished it this morning when he was warmed up but he was "tired" and decided to take the win. Seriously, stop making excuses, a loss is a loss. | ||
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
On August 23 2010 08:49 KamuL wrote: he said to silver in chat he respected his play, and considers him good as well. he does not however think the other opponent would be nearly as hard as trump or silver. so he didnt think he would need practice, since it was a bo5. (this is not offensive to lyra) actually the controverary was from the admins/public, ajtls simply used a rule. edit - for the guy above me, it wasn't just infernal. it was many other top players who he asked immediately on msn. so i assume they're all trash too? you're forgetting silver is disliked by many top players, thanks to idra. whatever, he congrat'd silver after the game, but explained his anger. That IS offensive to Lyra. Sounds like a jerk to me. He didn't practice and now its going to bite him in the butt. No the controversy is because of him. If he re-gamed and didn't spew a bunch of random excuses none of this would matter. And yes, top players can have trashy personalities. If they take every free win they get, then yea, I'm perfectly fine with calling them trash. And where are you getting this silver is disliked stuff? | ||
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KamuL
United States154 Posts
done responding in this thread, its the same 3 people going on and on, anyone that read what really happened clearly can see ajtls didnt do anything horrifc or bad. he was gm to silver after the re-game and told him he played really good, and just explained his anger and frustration, so yeah, he's so bm xd | ||
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ICCup.Tesla
United States841 Posts
On August 23 2010 09:23 KamuL wrote: uh, you're getting pissed at a player for taking the w.o, doesn't matter how bm, or how "douche" it was, he was tired, and sick of playing tvt + he and many others believed he had the clear advantage. done responding in this thread, its the same 3 people going on and on, anyone that read what really happened clearly can see ajtls didnt do anything horrifc or bad. he was gm to silver after the re-game and told him he played really good, and just explained his anger and frustration, so yeah, he's so bm xd Regardless of him being GM and saying that Silver played well...Both players were informed that the decision my change from last night, to today. They were both warned. Not our fault that he wasnt ready to handle that sort of thing to occur. Regardless it will be nice to see him play in future tournaments. Have a good day since your done posting here. | ||
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StarcraftMan
Canada507 Posts
On August 23 2010 09:03 KamuL wrote: but uh ls is perm-banned here for cheating/being an idiot years ago. so he doesn't bother to make an account. ^^^^ | ||
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Catreina
United States304 Posts
On August 23 2010 08:35 KamuL wrote: well he lost, and if anyone saw the games, he kept getting psi stuck and played terrible compared to the form he showed vs trump and in the previous games vs silver. shows up 30minutes before finals, and is told he has to paly silver, having played 0 games today to practice or warmup. He logged on at 6PM EDT, and the same thing would have happened for the finals had we not reversed the decision. He would have had almost no warmup time (his own choice, not our fault at all), and he would have played against lyra. There is always another tournament. He will play against Stalife for 3rd, and either place for $50 or not. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
Right and wrong from a morality's stand point can not exist for a tournament admin. They can't. Your job isn't to right wrongs in society or player's mind. Your job and duty is to run the tournament based upon the rules you set up and enforce them properly and without bias. Silver was good mannered. LastShadow has a bad past and might be an ass in this situation. None of that matters. None of it. All that matters is you had rules in place that you chose not to follow. Your rule was that players who disconnected after 7 minutes would either get a loss or the non-discer could be allowed to call a regame. That is a fine rule and should not be changed. If you change the rule, the only way to change it is that any disconnect now becomes a loss. From a logistics stand point the rule and the INITIAL enforcement of it is the only way to handle it. This is not an invite tourny with many refs capable of making judgment calls for in game discs. What I mean is, the ability to examine a replay and truly determine if one player was in an absolutely dominating position is extremely difficult (e.g. Slush vs Artosis incident in TL Invitational in Beta). Because of this, you can not logistically expect replay examination in the case of disc's throughout the tournament that has this many of players and games being played. You cant simply allow for a regame upon all discs for obvious reasons. Now, if you want to amend these rules for future competitions and say that "in the quarterfinals, all disconnects will result in a regame/loss/win based on an admin's decision," that is something that should be considered. However, this is still the same tournament and you're punishing Last Shadow for doing nothing wrong. I want to repeat that for everybody crying: Last Shadow did nothing wrong. If you want to claim that you have higher morals and would never stoop to such a level and he should be ashamed that is your prerogative, but it doesn't change the fact that his decisions were completely allowed by the rules set in place. | ||
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