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Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
May 24 2010 15:27 GMT
#6001
On May 25 2010 00:20 Driftlock wrote:
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On May 24 2010 23:54 Jolkien wrote:
The finals are still not on Youtube, are they using another website to host them ?


It takes them time to render each video. They also need to be split up into parts if they're too long for youtube. The live stream of the finals was all one long video, which wouldn't fit on youtube. In short, it's going to take a bit of time Rendering videos can take a fair bit of time when you're keeping the quality in it, the speed of it will also depend on how strong the computer rendering it is.




Big thanks to HD, Husky, and iRip for getting this going. SC2 marks when I first really started watching pro players and streams for SC in general, and this tournament was pretty enjoyable to watch.

True but they recorded the finals before patch 13 so they surely had enough time to render it.
I'm not complaining, though. They're doing a good job given the circumstances (Bnet2.0).
Jusciax
Profile Joined August 2007
Lithuania588 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 15:38:36
May 24 2010 15:38 GMT
#6002
Sorry, if this is inappropriate question, but where can i see final games? (replays or vods) Because first page has no information yet and i've searched through last 30 pages with no luck too.
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
May 24 2010 15:46 GMT
#6003
On May 25 2010 00:38 Jusciax wrote:
Sorry, if this is inappropriate question, but where can i see final games? (replays or vods) Because first page has no information yet and i've searched through last 30 pages with no luck too.

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denisrodrigues
Profile Joined May 2010
1 Post
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 16:06:22
May 24 2010 16:02 GMT
#6004
Nuked
User was banned for this post.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 17:33:59
May 24 2010 16:05 GMT
#6005
WHAT THE FUCK

I just nearly ripped my eyes out fuck you denisrodrigues

edit: he posted some gay porn that most gay people wouldn't enjoy seeing.
Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
May 24 2010 16:33 GMT
#6006
O.O
Did he post a spoiler?
caldazar
Profile Joined April 2010
United States38 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 16:55:53
May 24 2010 16:55 GMT
#6007
On May 24 2010 23:03 nihlon wrote:
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On May 24 2010 22:57 cyclone25 wrote:
Readmore.de has the result up for Nony vs TLO, so you better contact them about it, before more people get spoiled ^^


Anyone that has looked at nony or tlo's match history knows. You can't prevent that.


Actually I would be surprised if anyone found out the results this way. From what Husky said before, they finished the games minutes before the servers went down for patch 13, at which time there was a reset, so the match histories would have been erased.
Moon200
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway5 Posts
May 24 2010 16:59 GMT
#6008
On May 25 2010 01:05 Puosu wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK

I just nearly ripped my eyes out fuck you denisrodrigues


What did he post? Just curious.
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baeracaed
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States604 Posts
May 24 2010 17:29 GMT
#6009
Probably some crazy pic that had nothing to do with anything.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
May 24 2010 17:41 GMT
#6010
yea a nsfw gif
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goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3546 Posts
May 24 2010 17:46 GMT
#6011
On May 24 2010 19:24 Spidinko wrote:
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On May 24 2010 10:56 forgotten0ne wrote:
The difference between Idra vs White-Ra and Sen vs White-Ra is simple. Sen actually uses his brain.

Idra = speedy mechanical monkey
Sen = high apm genius

Also, this tournament really makes you think about how nearly impossible it is to live off being a pro-gamer. White-Ra just spent a month winning $2500. If he could do this every month (meaning there would have to be a tournament, AND he would have to win every time), he would still be making a "decent" wage. Granted, that's US standards, which is why we're the last country to have any sort of true e-Sports.

Good news is that you won't be the last, though. AFAIK there are countries with higher average salary.
But your point still stands. Earing a decent living as a progamer is almost impossible. There is no reason for sponsors to pay more for the tournaments, though. If they pay 5k then almost every top player would be willing to participate.


There is definitely a reason for sponsors to pay more for tournaments - Idra vs Whitera topped 25,000 viewers. If a sponsor pays $5,000 in prizes, that is paying 20 cents for each viewer to hear and associate their name with the tournament . . . most big companies would happily throw away twenty cents a person to gain potential customers, I would think that HD and Husky could easily get more sponsorships for HDH tournaments, considering the gigantic viewer base that they attracted for the live cast, not to mention the many views the vods will rack up.
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Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
May 24 2010 18:01 GMT
#6012
On May 25 2010 02:46 Newguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2010 19:24 Spidinko wrote:
On May 24 2010 10:56 forgotten0ne wrote:
The difference between Idra vs White-Ra and Sen vs White-Ra is simple. Sen actually uses his brain.

Idra = speedy mechanical monkey
Sen = high apm genius

Also, this tournament really makes you think about how nearly impossible it is to live off being a pro-gamer. White-Ra just spent a month winning $2500. If he could do this every month (meaning there would have to be a tournament, AND he would have to win every time), he would still be making a "decent" wage. Granted, that's US standards, which is why we're the last country to have any sort of true e-Sports.

Good news is that you won't be the last, though. AFAIK there are countries with higher average salary.
But your point still stands. Earing a decent living as a progamer is almost impossible. There is no reason for sponsors to pay more for the tournaments, though. If they pay 5k then almost every top player would be willing to participate.


There is definitely a reason for sponsors to pay more for tournaments - Idra vs Whitera topped 25,000 viewers. If a sponsor pays $5,000 in prizes, that is paying 20 cents for each viewer to hear and associate their name with the tournament . . . most big companies would happily throw away twenty cents a person to gain potential customers, I would think that HD and Husky could easily get more sponsorships for HDH tournaments, considering the gigantic viewer base that they attracted for the live cast, not to mention the many views the vods will rack up.

I agree but my point was that companies don't want to spend more money they have to.
Why would they pay 10k if, say, 2k is enough to get them that many viewers. If you pay 10k you don't get 5x more viewers. E-sports is used to having 'low' prize pools. So $5k is going to attract as many viewers as $10k is because almost every possible fan is already dying to see the games played out.

What's more important, though, is advertising the tournament. HD and Husky did great job at that. They created such a hype that a lot of people are now watching these games and that's more important than prize money.
baeracaed
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States604 Posts
May 24 2010 18:03 GMT
#6013
Another thing that's great for sponsors is that it's a wet dream of a target audience to advertise to.
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Mimus
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada13 Posts
May 24 2010 18:04 GMT
#6014
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I had to leave after game 5, can hardly contain myself waiting for the VODs!!
"Man a fuckin Monkey could play that game ya know, Like you got a lvl 20 Suck a Dick verse a Level 50 Who gives a fuck" -Surfer4Life on WoW.
stacker
Profile Joined October 2007
United States32 Posts
May 24 2010 18:13 GMT
#6015
Half of being a good commentator is being knowledgeable, the other half is being a good entertainer.

You two did great on both fronts. Looking forward to more tournaments with you guys, thanks for all your work.
eNoq
Profile Joined June 2009
Netherlands502 Posts
May 24 2010 18:14 GMT
#6016
Sick sick tournament, insane viewer count too ^.^
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mrddt
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation11 Posts
May 24 2010 18:15 GMT
#6017
So wheres VODs of final, I dont get it??? I didnt find one on TL. Theres vods in low quality in russian site, but it should be VODs in HD! ? ...
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 18:28:37
May 24 2010 18:26 GMT
#6018
On May 25 2010 01:55 caldazar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2010 23:03 nihlon wrote:
On May 24 2010 22:57 cyclone25 wrote:
Readmore.de has the result up for Nony vs TLO, so you better contact them about it, before more people get spoiled ^^


Anyone that has looked at nony or tlo's match history knows. You can't prevent that.


Actually I would be surprised if anyone found out the results this way. From what Husky said before, they finished the games minutes before the servers went down for patch 13, at which time there was a reset, so the match histories would have been erased.


That is not what he said. He said he got the replays sent to him shortly before patch 13 went live. And I know for a fact that people have checked the results. You can google it yourself if you like, you can find the results there. Also, even if they finished shortly before the patch went live, they would still have to have played between 3 and 6 games before that giving lurking players plenty of time to find out the results.
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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
May 24 2010 18:33 GMT
#6019
On May 25 2010 03:15 mrddt wrote:
So wheres VODs of final, I dont get it??? I didnt find one on TL. Theres vods in low quality in russian site, but it should be VODs in HD! ? ...


There are the HDH vods on some Russian site?
mrddt
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation11 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 18:47:39
May 24 2010 18:43 GMT
#6020
On May 25 2010 03:33 Salv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2010 03:15 mrddt wrote:
So wheres VODs of final, I dont get it??? I didnt find one on TL. Theres vods in low quality in russian site, but it should be VODs in HD! ? ...


There are the HDH vods on some Russian site?

Sure!
http://www.sc2tv.ru/starcraft-2/sc2-live/2237-hdn-invitational-final-whitera-vs-idra.html
if you want to download, click the link "24may-hdh-final.torrent" (its torrent link)
but quality is bad! and half of 1st set is missing.

Its strange that theres no VODs on TL (and on youtube too), cuz, as i know, Day9 was one of the commentators
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