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On April 04 2010 21:26 IdrA wrote:
us server is trash, probably cuz the best rts players like nony and skew arent taking it all that seriously and our rts skill pool wasnt all that deep to begin with.. euros better for now but its mainly cheese which will continue to get worse as people figure out the game more and more, and you'll be left with people like ret on top. asia is already far ahead in terms of absolute skill and will just continue to pull away, though to be fair if you dropped lucifron or whatever into asia hed rape face for a while just cuz cheese is still really strong right now as solid defensive play takes longer to thoroughly figure out.
Do you really think that because you've got one build you use in every matchup, and you're good at using it, that means you're the best player around? The game is 6 weeks into beta and you've already drawn some pretty big assumptive conclusions.
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On April 05 2010 02:51 Louder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2010 21:26 IdrA wrote:
us server is trash, probably cuz the best rts players like nony and skew arent taking it all that seriously and our rts skill pool wasnt all that deep to begin with.. euros better for now but its mainly cheese which will continue to get worse as people figure out the game more and more, and you'll be left with people like ret on top. asia is already far ahead in terms of absolute skill and will just continue to pull away, though to be fair if you dropped lucifron or whatever into asia hed rape face for a while just cuz cheese is still really strong right now as solid defensive play takes longer to thoroughly figure out. Do you really think that because you've got one build you use in every matchup, and you're good at using it, that means you're the best player around? The game is 6 weeks into beta and you've already drawn some pretty big assumptive conclusions.
is assumptive conclusion redundant?
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On April 05 2010 02:57 ilnp wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2010 02:51 Louder wrote:On April 04 2010 21:26 IdrA wrote:
us server is trash, probably cuz the best rts players like nony and skew arent taking it all that seriously and our rts skill pool wasnt all that deep to begin with.. euros better for now but its mainly cheese which will continue to get worse as people figure out the game more and more, and you'll be left with people like ret on top. asia is already far ahead in terms of absolute skill and will just continue to pull away, though to be fair if you dropped lucifron or whatever into asia hed rape face for a while just cuz cheese is still really strong right now as solid defensive play takes longer to thoroughly figure out. Do you really think that because you've got one build you use in every matchup, and you're good at using it, that means you're the best player around? The game is 6 weeks into beta and you've already drawn some pretty big assumptive conclusions. is assumptive conclusion redundant?
No. You can draw a conclusion without making an assumption.
Also. Iceland? What the fuck.
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If you do another one of these, could you please hide results in a spoiler Smuft? I know it's your prerogative, but it sure sucks opening the thread looking for vods/replays and being instantly spoiled.
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On April 05 2010 02:59 Louder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2010 02:57 ilnp wrote:On April 05 2010 02:51 Louder wrote:On April 04 2010 21:26 IdrA wrote:
us server is trash, probably cuz the best rts players like nony and skew arent taking it all that seriously and our rts skill pool wasnt all that deep to begin with.. euros better for now but its mainly cheese which will continue to get worse as people figure out the game more and more, and you'll be left with people like ret on top. asia is already far ahead in terms of absolute skill and will just continue to pull away, though to be fair if you dropped lucifron or whatever into asia hed rape face for a while just cuz cheese is still really strong right now as solid defensive play takes longer to thoroughly figure out. Do you really think that because you've got one build you use in every matchup, and you're good at using it, that means you're the best player around? The game is 6 weeks into beta and you've already drawn some pretty big assumptive conclusions. is assumptive conclusion redundant? No. You can draw a conclusion without making an assumption. Also. Iceland? What the fuck.
can you assume without making a conclusion?
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On April 05 2010 03:13 ilnp wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2010 02:59 Louder wrote:On April 05 2010 02:57 ilnp wrote:On April 05 2010 02:51 Louder wrote:On April 04 2010 21:26 IdrA wrote:
us server is trash, probably cuz the best rts players like nony and skew arent taking it all that seriously and our rts skill pool wasnt all that deep to begin with.. euros better for now but its mainly cheese which will continue to get worse as people figure out the game more and more, and you'll be left with people like ret on top. asia is already far ahead in terms of absolute skill and will just continue to pull away, though to be fair if you dropped lucifron or whatever into asia hed rape face for a while just cuz cheese is still really strong right now as solid defensive play takes longer to thoroughly figure out. Do you really think that because you've got one build you use in every matchup, and you're good at using it, that means you're the best player around? The game is 6 weeks into beta and you've already drawn some pretty big assumptive conclusions. is assumptive conclusion redundant? No. You can draw a conclusion without making an assumption. Also. Iceland? What the fuck. can you assume without making a conclusion?
I assume so, but I'm not sure.
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On April 05 2010 03:13 ilnp wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2010 02:59 Louder wrote:On April 05 2010 02:57 ilnp wrote:On April 05 2010 02:51 Louder wrote:On April 04 2010 21:26 IdrA wrote:
us server is trash, probably cuz the best rts players like nony and skew arent taking it all that seriously and our rts skill pool wasnt all that deep to begin with.. euros better for now but its mainly cheese which will continue to get worse as people figure out the game more and more, and you'll be left with people like ret on top. asia is already far ahead in terms of absolute skill and will just continue to pull away, though to be fair if you dropped lucifron or whatever into asia hed rape face for a while just cuz cheese is still really strong right now as solid defensive play takes longer to thoroughly figure out. Do you really think that because you've got one build you use in every matchup, and you're good at using it, that means you're the best player around? The game is 6 weeks into beta and you've already drawn some pretty big assumptive conclusions. is assumptive conclusion redundant? No. You can draw a conclusion without making an assumption. Also. Iceland? What the fuck. can you assume without making a conclusion?
You can't assume without making a conclusion, but you CAN conclude without making an assumption. o-o
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I think its hard to accept but at the moment usa is behind the rest of the servers. Idra could have said it more tactfully but from my experience his observations hold a lot of truth.
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i have come to the conclusion that idra is a douche, and im going to assume that you all agree with me
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On April 05 2010 03:39 _rdm_ wrote:
I think its hard to accept but at the moment usa is behind the rest of the servers. Idra could have said it more tactfully but from my experience his observations hold a lot of truth.
not sure how you can make that assumption when hardly any US players are playing with EU people... even Artosis himself admitted that he hasn't actually played the Euros yet.
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On April 05 2010 03:27 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2010 03:13 ilnp wrote:On April 05 2010 02:59 Louder wrote:On April 05 2010 02:57 ilnp wrote:On April 05 2010 02:51 Louder wrote:On April 04 2010 21:26 IdrA wrote:
us server is trash, probably cuz the best rts players like nony and skew arent taking it all that seriously and our rts skill pool wasnt all that deep to begin with.. euros better for now but its mainly cheese which will continue to get worse as people figure out the game more and more, and you'll be left with people like ret on top. asia is already far ahead in terms of absolute skill and will just continue to pull away, though to be fair if you dropped lucifron or whatever into asia hed rape face for a while just cuz cheese is still really strong right now as solid defensive play takes longer to thoroughly figure out. Do you really think that because you've got one build you use in every matchup, and you're good at using it, that means you're the best player around? The game is 6 weeks into beta and you've already drawn some pretty big assumptive conclusions. is assumptive conclusion redundant? No. You can draw a conclusion without making an assumption. Also. Iceland? What the fuck. can you assume without making a conclusion? You can't assume without making a conclusion, but you CAN conclude without making an assumption. o-o
motoshak keram
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On April 05 2010 03:41 duckhunt wrote:
i have come to the conclusion that idra is a douche, and im going to assume that you all agree with me
youve posted on this forum 166 times using the same id and you are coming here making assumptive conclusions like this?
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On April 04 2010 07:27 Xxio wrote:
because it's in beta and because there's no league. even if he is a professional in every sense of the word he should be able to bm all he wants unless there is a specific rule against it. not some "unwritten rule". you guys sound like KeSPA, jesus.
Dude we're giving away money, if we want idra to say that we are his idols at the end of the game if he wants the money, he'll have to say it, or else he doesn't get to take part in the tournament, so quit being such a huge fanboy of idra and get used to the rules that people make when they host tournaments
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Just to stop a bit drama and ask, will there be replays soon? :D
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On April 05 2010 03:45 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2010 03:39 _rdm_ wrote:
I think its hard to accept but at the moment usa is behind the rest of the servers. Idra could have said it more tactfully but from my experience his observations hold a lot of truth. not sure how you can make that assumption when hardly any US players are playing with EU people... even Artosis himself admitted that he hasn't actually played the Euros yet.
I have played with both parties and I have also watched many recs from both parties, I am simply saying that I agree with the statement Idra has made, not with the approach he took to making it though.
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On April 05 2010 02:51 Louder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2010 21:26 IdrA wrote:
us server is trash, probably cuz the best rts players like nony and skew arent taking it all that seriously and our rts skill pool wasnt all that deep to begin with.. euros better for now but its mainly cheese which will continue to get worse as people figure out the game more and more, and you'll be left with people like ret on top. asia is already far ahead in terms of absolute skill and will just continue to pull away, though to be fair if you dropped lucifron or whatever into asia hed rape face for a while just cuz cheese is still really strong right now as solid defensive play takes longer to thoroughly figure out. Do you really think that because you've got one build you use in every matchup, and you're good at using it, that means you're the best player around? The game is 6 weeks into beta and you've already drawn some pretty big assumptive conclusions.
i only play one build zvt because all you people do is retarded cheeses and that one build is the closest ive found to safe vs all of them.
whos better? someone who does a bunch of different builds and loses with all of them or someone who found a solid build and does it better than anyone else?
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On April 04 2010 21:26 IdrA wrote:
i only play one build zvt because all you people do is retarded cheeses and that one build is the closest ive found to safe vs all of them.
whos better? someone who does a bunch of different builds and loses with all of them or someone who found a solid build and does it better than anyone else?
Idra i see your builds and i dont know how the hell you stop void ray rushes, normally you dont have lair till very late, do you have any scout info to see this coming? (i know normally you sac an Ovie but then the only possible thing you can do is queens or spore colonies and spores are terribad because you need like 200. I agree that one solid build is 100 times better than 5 builds which consist in your oponent screwing up or being greedy...
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On April 05 2010 04:40 _rdm_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2010 03:45 Xeris wrote:On April 05 2010 03:39 _rdm_ wrote:
I think its hard to accept but at the moment usa is behind the rest of the servers. Idra could have said it more tactfully but from my experience his observations hold a lot of truth. not sure how you can make that assumption when hardly any US players are playing with EU people... even Artosis himself admitted that he hasn't actually played the Euros yet. I have played with both parties and I have also watched many recs from both parties, I am simply saying that I agree with the statement Idra has made, not with the approach he took to making it though.
that makes absolutely no fucking sense. you agree that americans are bad europeans are cheesy and asians are better, and you think its fine to make that opinion public, but its not ok to say it bluntly? how fucking stupid is that.
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On April 05 2010 03:45 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2010 03:39 _rdm_ wrote:
I think its hard to accept but at the moment usa is behind the rest of the servers. Idra could have said it more tactfully but from my experience his observations hold a lot of truth. not sure how you can make that assumption when hardly any US players are playing with EU people... even Artosis himself admitted that he hasn't actually played the Euros yet.
Doesn't he play Zotac every week? Or is that someone on his account?
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