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On April 05 2010 14:37 dacthehork wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2010 14:34 StarcraftMaster wrote:On April 05 2010 14:32 dacthehork wrote:
wrong
working smarter and efficiently, getting the most for the time you put in is the most important factor, smart players simply learn more from each game they play.
If you play 100 games, versus 100 games where you analyze, improve, and self critique you will notice a huge difference
ofc. and thats what the better players do.. And just about everyone is capable of it... and people shouldnt belittle idras play. Ideally he will be the best player a month or so down the road when he understands how things work better. Just like everyone is trying to do. When he gets that understanding hes going to beable to adapt to just about anything. and thats when alot of people are going to have to format there builds alot more rather then relying on shock tactics I don't know the macro is ridiculously simpler in SC2, it's all the much smaller things that are more important like surprising the opponent and having intelligent counter builds. I dont think a "guide to XvX" will be created anytime soon
Its not simpler. if you could explain how Spending your minerals in SC is harder then SC2 id like to hear it. ( choosing what you spend it on ) im not talking about interface shit here
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yes sir rori (cauthon) joined right before our showmatch on wednesday, and slush joined us just 2 days ago after i played a couple games with him and then he proceeded to play the rest of our team. it's pretty hard to keep everyone(or anyone that cares) up to date with these additions/news about us, but we'll have a temporary website up soon while the real one builds up, again thanks for your support, first day back @ school tomorrow, so im gonna go to bed now, gn
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On April 05 2010 14:30 StarcraftMaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2010 14:27 IdrA wrote:
lol, you say its only because of player pool and then say that americans focus on having fun and that asians work hard. theres a reason the mass practicers are odd balls amongst foreigners and not amongst koreans/chinese. their culture promotes a better work ethic than westerners, which means that yes, they are better at video games, and anything else that can benefit from massive amounts of practice. Having fun is more important then worth ethic. Without the passion there is no fuel for the fire. And there is mass gamers in each. But there more common in asia cause of the player pool. More players playing Around them as well.. Its linked with there enviorment. which is probably fueling the competition more for them... just speculation tho.
actually it really depends on what you're aiming for, if you're looking to perform, win tournaments, get known, win money or whatever it is that there it gain from being a top player, then work ethic is important clearly
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On April 05 2010 14:36 Smuft wrote:
Re: Idra
We will not be banning him from the tournament. There is no need to do that as this was an invitational event where the prize pool was brought to you by the hospitality of our donators and the work of volunteers. Idra's blatant lack of respect and pathetic behavior will simply prevent him from being invited to all future events.
aka it kills your betting to have someone who isnt gonna lose playing your matches.
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I love you smuft if you upload them by monday morning ^-^ <3
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On April 05 2010 14:43 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2010 14:36 Smuft wrote:
Re: Idra
We will not be banning him from the tournament. There is no need to do that as this was an invitational event where the prize pool was brought to you by the hospitality of our donators and the work of volunteers. Idra's blatant lack of respect and pathetic behavior will simply prevent him from being invited to all future events.
aka it kills your betting to have someone who isnt gonna lose playing your matches.
Gratz, you won 1 tournament. Maybe you can try to win 1 more... and not let Lz beat you out in terms of wins. OH WAIT HES A CHEESY NOOBY RIGHT?!?!?
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On April 05 2010 14:42 Fayth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2010 14:30 StarcraftMaster wrote:On April 05 2010 14:27 IdrA wrote:
lol, you say its only because of player pool and then say that americans focus on having fun and that asians work hard. theres a reason the mass practicers are odd balls amongst foreigners and not amongst koreans/chinese. their culture promotes a better work ethic than westerners, which means that yes, they are better at video games, and anything else that can benefit from massive amounts of practice. Having fun is more important then worth ethic. Without the passion there is no fuel for the fire. And there is mass gamers in each. But there more common in asia cause of the player pool. More players playing Around them as well.. Its linked with there enviorment. which is probably fueling the competition more for them... just speculation tho. actually it really depends on what you're aiming for, if you're looking to perform, win tournaments, get known, win money or whatever it is that there it gain from being a top player, then work ethic is important clearly
You guys are missing my point.
A person with all the worth ethic in the world couldn't play a game he didnt like playing.
Just like a person who got an enormous mental high when ever he played a game but never analyzed could Never improve at the game he loved so much.
Both go hand in hand. You need both. Not one or the other.
You think flash or jaedong would even be 1/1000th of there skill level if they didnt like playing?
You can force a person to play 10+ hours. all you want in korea. But not much is gonna happen if they Dont enjoy it and if they dont properly analyze there games. One relies on the other.
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On April 05 2010 14:43 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2010 14:36 Smuft wrote:
Re: Idra
We will not be banning him from the tournament. There is no need to do that as this was an invitational event where the prize pool was brought to you by the hospitality of our donators and the work of volunteers. Idra's blatant lack of respect and pathetic behavior will simply prevent him from being invited to all future events.
aka it kills your betting to have someone who isnt gonna lose playing your matches.
oh wow I explained it all to you, you didn't understand shit
and you claim you're smart?
faaaaaaail
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On April 05 2010 14:45 StarcraftMaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2010 14:42 Fayth wrote:On April 05 2010 14:30 StarcraftMaster wrote:On April 05 2010 14:27 IdrA wrote:
lol, you say its only because of player pool and then say that americans focus on having fun and that asians work hard. theres a reason the mass practicers are odd balls amongst foreigners and not amongst koreans/chinese. their culture promotes a better work ethic than westerners, which means that yes, they are better at video games, and anything else that can benefit from massive amounts of practice. Having fun is more important then worth ethic. Without the passion there is no fuel for the fire. And there is mass gamers in each. But there more common in asia cause of the player pool. More players playing Around them as well.. Its linked with there enviorment. which is probably fueling the competition more for them... just speculation tho. actually it really depends on what you're aiming for, if you're looking to perform, win tournaments, get known, win money or whatever it is that there it gain from being a top player, then work ethic is important clearly You guys are missing my point. A person with all the worth ethic in the world couldn't play a game he didnt like playing. Just like a person who got an enormous mental high when ever he played a game but never analyzed could Never improve at the game he loved so much. Both go hand in hand. You need both. Not one or the other. You think flash or jaedong would even be 1/1000th of there skill level if they didnt like playing? You can force a person to play 10+ hours. all you want in korea. But not much is gonna happen if they Dont enjoy it and if they dont properly analyze there games. One relies on the other.
yeah but I mean everyone who has a very awesome work ethic in any domain obviously likes what he does.... It's a given
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On April 05 2010 14:48 Fayth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2010 14:45 StarcraftMaster wrote:On April 05 2010 14:42 Fayth wrote:On April 05 2010 14:30 StarcraftMaster wrote:On April 05 2010 14:27 IdrA wrote:
lol, you say its only because of player pool and then say that americans focus on having fun and that asians work hard. theres a reason the mass practicers are odd balls amongst foreigners and not amongst koreans/chinese. their culture promotes a better work ethic than westerners, which means that yes, they are better at video games, and anything else that can benefit from massive amounts of practice. Having fun is more important then worth ethic. Without the passion there is no fuel for the fire. And there is mass gamers in each. But there more common in asia cause of the player pool. More players playing Around them as well.. Its linked with there enviorment. which is probably fueling the competition more for them... just speculation tho. actually it really depends on what you're aiming for, if you're looking to perform, win tournaments, get known, win money or whatever it is that there it gain from being a top player, then work ethic is important clearly You guys are missing my point. A person with all the worth ethic in the world couldn't play a game he didnt like playing. Just like a person who got an enormous mental high when ever he played a game but never analyzed could Never improve at the game he loved so much. Both go hand in hand. You need both. Not one or the other. You think flash or jaedong would even be 1/1000th of there skill level if they didnt like playing? You can force a person to play 10+ hours. all you want in korea. But not much is gonna happen if they Dont enjoy it and if they dont properly analyze there games. One relies on the other. yeah but I mean everyone who has a very awesome work ethic in any domain obviously likes what he does.... It's a given
Exactly. But i really dont think it comes down to culture.. I did say asians have a bigger work ethic but i also said that is more inclined twords educational pursuits because of there parents. I don't believe There passion for Educational pursuit can convert to a gaming pursuit. They are Just ideally superior because of the competition that goes on outside of the computer when a majority of there friends play the game. When they see it on tv. When they see it in the PCbangs. It really does fuel them to be more competitive. And also contributing to the larger player base.. this is why they are the best. not because of some racial superiority
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well it's just that It's part of their mentality, that anything they do must be done for a reason, not just for fun, there must be something to achieve.... you musn't just kill time... so they all strive to be the best
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On April 05 2010 14:53 Fayth wrote:
well it's just that It's part of their mentality, that anything they do must be done for a reason, not just for fun, there must be something to achieve.... you musn't just kill time... so they all strive to be the best
i don't believe this. after reading boxers biography. i would think the opposite. There was no future for him doing what he did. he knew it. A miracle happened
And korean MMO gaming is way more out of control then the west ;0
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On April 05 2010 14:43 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2010 14:36 Smuft wrote:
Re: Idra
We will not be banning him from the tournament. There is no need to do that as this was an invitational event where the prize pool was brought to you by the hospitality of our donators and the work of volunteers. Idra's blatant lack of respect and pathetic behavior will simply prevent him from being invited to all future events.
aka it kills your betting to have someone who isnt gonna lose playing your matches.
If that were really the issue, we'd turn one of our hospitable donator fayth into a player and have him beat you in a similar fashion to this game?
C'mon now Idra, don't try and play the "i am god's gift to starcraft and better than everyone" card. You lost the king of the hill to cauthonluck, you lose to random SC2 hobbyists, and you have a 25% win rate vs yours truly at best. You really can't even begin to think about playing that card 
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On April 05 2010 14:56 Smuft wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2010 14:43 IdrA wrote:On April 05 2010 14:36 Smuft wrote:
Re: Idra
We will not be banning him from the tournament. There is no need to do that as this was an invitational event where the prize pool was brought to you by the hospitality of our donators and the work of volunteers. Idra's blatant lack of respect and pathetic behavior will simply prevent him from being invited to all future events.
aka it kills your betting to have someone who isnt gonna lose playing your matches. If that were really the issue, we'd turn one of our hospitable donator fayth into a player and have him beat you in a similar fashion to this game? C'mon now Idra, don't try and play the "i am god's gift to starcraft and better than everyone" card. You lost the king of the hill to cauthonluck, you lose to random SC2 hobbyists, and you have a 25% win rate vs yours truly at best. You really can't even begin to think about playing that card
Everyone loses, even yours truly =/
Showmatch idra vs smuft?
Who wants to throw in some $ and make this interesting?
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I'm pretty sure Smuft would be willing to bet against IdrA if he played himself against him.... thing is... IdrA could only bet candies or something
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Why would IdrA agree to a showmatch with players he claims are newbs that still beat him? IdrA only plays Paper. Like every single time, you could have a rock-paper-scissors player who only has 2 fingers and therefore MUST play scissors against IdrA and he would still play Paper. And when he loses he's gonna say "Scissors is so cheesy, I'm Pro because I said so and I know things" (except with more personal insults and profanity)
After watching Lz beat IdrA repeatedly with zero cheese just solid play and the reaction from IdrA it's just sad really... I mean yeah I don't mind the interesting aspect it adds to being a spectator but still... no cred as a player gained by actions or words
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