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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 04 2010 02:27 GMT
#421
nah, I was a part of that victory.. just he had a bit of a more contributory role. So I am hoping to get to try again in the next tourney!

Exactly like I said!
Bloodyrock
Profile Joined March 2010
Ireland150 Posts
April 04 2010 03:00 GMT
#422
i want REPs
READYALREADY
Sejong
Profile Joined March 2010
Korea (South)153 Posts
April 04 2010 03:18 GMT
#423
All over the replays also once they are ready.. Very impressed by idra
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
April 04 2010 03:34 GMT
#424
ggs. While the Winner's League Format is cool, I think it doesn't work quite as well in a tournament where the skill is slightly more imbalanced, because then it is possible for one player to run through every other team. Would have enjoyed seeing more of Artosis and Incontrol.

Still, great tournament.
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guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
April 04 2010 03:35 GMT
#425
On April 04 2010 11:09 Day[9] wrote:
and also, i gave the smuft video to smuft so he'll be posting it somewhere.


smuft u there?
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Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-04 03:39:55
April 04 2010 03:39 GMT
#426
While the Winner's League Format is cool, I think it doesn't work quite as well in a tournament where the skill is slightly more imbalanced, because then it is possible for one player to run through every other team.

You mean like the actual Winner's League where Flash = victory?
hoborg
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States430 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-04 03:51:34
April 04 2010 03:50 GMT
#427
^ spoiler tag please, I was waiting to see the VODs for WL results >_<

(unless you just meant in general...)
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urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
April 04 2010 07:37 GMT
#428
On April 04 2010 12:50 hoborg wrote:
^ spoiler tag please, I was waiting to see the VODs for WL results >_<

(unless you just meant in general...)


Pretty sure he was referring to Flash's monstrous domination ratio for the entirety of the SWL, so consider your finals unspoiled, good sir!
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Yawne
Profile Joined July 2008
Germany195 Posts
April 04 2010 09:07 GMT
#429
Thanks for the awesome tourney.

Hope there will be another one.
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
April 04 2010 10:43 GMT
#430
On April 04 2010 11:27 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
nah, I was a part of that victory.. just he had a bit of a more contributory role. So I am hoping to get to try again in the next tourney!

Exactly like I said!


If anything, Artosis' grandpa talk to Idra about stop being BM won you the tourney.
Artosis for MVP.
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
April 04 2010 12:10 GMT
#431
On April 04 2010 12:34 petered wrote:
ggs. While the Winner's League Format is cool, I think it doesn't work quite as well in a tournament where the skill is slightly more imbalanced, because then it is possible for one player to run through every other team. Would have enjoyed seeing more of Artosis and Incontrol.

Still, great tournament.


What does that even mean, "skill is imbalanced"??
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
April 04 2010 12:16 GMT
#432
On April 04 2010 21:10 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 12:34 petered wrote:
ggs. While the Winner's League Format is cool, I think it doesn't work quite as well in a tournament where the skill is slightly more imbalanced, because then it is possible for one player to run through every other team. Would have enjoyed seeing more of Artosis and Incontrol.

Still, great tournament.


What does that even mean, "skill is imbalanced"??

it means about 4 people on the server have the slightest clue how to play the game
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
April 04 2010 12:20 GMT
#433
Do you mean the US server is much weaker, or are you talking about every server? If the former, why?
No I'm never serious.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
April 04 2010 12:26 GMT
#434
us server is trash, probably cuz the best rts players like nony and skew arent taking it all that seriously and our rts skill pool wasnt all that deep to begin with.. euros better for now but its mainly cheese which will continue to get worse as people figure out the game more and more, and you'll be left with people like ret on top. asia is already far ahead in terms of absolute skill and will just continue to pull away, though to be fair if you dropped lucifron or whatever into asia hed rape face for a while just cuz cheese is still really strong right now as solid defensive play takes longer to thoroughly figure out.
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heaven-
Profile Joined February 2010
United States361 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-04 12:35:06
April 04 2010 12:33 GMT
#435
lucifron pretty much dominated 2008 both korean and european tournaments for warcraft 3. Taking down one of the best players of all time like Moon, Lyn etc. In more than one occasion. If you were to drop Lucifron in asia as you said, I would say he'd be top 5, no doubt. And not with cheese but with solid play.

In any case as of now hes not taking it seriously and is focused on studies.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-04 12:41:16
April 04 2010 12:37 GMT
#436
On April 04 2010 07:01 BladeRunner wrote:
Here's a reasonable analogy, if you watch football on TV they try very hard not to pick up the incredibly BM chatter that the players have, you can pick it up sometimes but the point is it's not supposed to be part of the sport... Let your play do the talking ( to the viewers especially ) and all that

Except they don't prevent the trash talk from occurring. The only thing prohibited is gestures towards the fans, towards the players is completely okay and considered part of the game by anyone who plays it. If the goal is to keep chat entries clean, then you disable chat on whoever's streaming.


Great games, IdrA!

On April 04 2010 08:13 PanzerDragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 07:45 Bosu wrote:
There is absolutely no reason that being a professional means that he has to be mannered. Hockey players talk shit and fight all the time and the fans love it.

Here's the difference: in football, basketball, etc, when you talk shit its usually after you have made a great play and shut someone down.


When Idra talks shit, its usually after he loses, so he just sounds like a whiner.

IdrA's comments that game were after thoroughly dominating Moonglade and shutting down his sneak attack.
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
April 04 2010 12:41 GMT
#437
On April 04 2010 21:26 IdrA wrote:
us server is trash, probably cuz the best rts players like nony and skew arent taking it all that seriously and our rts skill pool wasnt all that deep to begin with.. euros better for now but its mainly cheese which will continue to get worse as people figure out the game more and more, and you'll be left with people like ret on top. asia is already far ahead in terms of absolute skill and will just continue to pull away, though to be fair if you dropped lucifron or whatever into asia hed rape face for a while just cuz cheese is still really strong right now as solid defensive play takes longer to thoroughly figure out.


Thanks, useful to see what someone who has access to all the servers thinks.

It makes sense that it's currently Asia>Euro>US since if you're talking about the pure number of top level RTS players it's the same inequalities.
No I'm never serious.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
April 04 2010 12:46 GMT
#438
On April 04 2010 21:33 heaven- wrote:
lucifron pretty much dominated 2008 both korean and european tournaments for warcraft 3. Taking down one of the best players of all time like Moon, Lyn etc. In more than one occasion. If you were to drop Lucifron in asia as you said, I would say he'd be top 5, no doubt. And not with cheese but with solid play.

In any case as of now hes not taking it seriously and is focused on studies.

not knocking his war3 accomplishments, but in the replays ive seen hes pure cheese.
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Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
April 04 2010 15:19 GMT
#439
On April 04 2010 21:46 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 21:33 heaven- wrote:
lucifron pretty much dominated 2008 both korean and european tournaments for warcraft 3. Taking down one of the best players of all time like Moon, Lyn etc. In more than one occasion. If you were to drop Lucifron in asia as you said, I would say he'd be top 5, no doubt. And not with cheese but with solid play.

In any case as of now hes not taking it seriously and is focused on studies.

not knocking his war3 accomplishments, but in the replays ive seen hes pure cheese.


He did the same with Orc in Warcraft 3. It's interesting how he picks the right race for the right game all the time. However, that being said, he did come up with that marauder rush the first time and discover how strong it was so all due credit to him there.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4249 Posts
April 04 2010 15:35 GMT
#440
Results


Media defeats Assembly Redialing 4-1

Game 1 - Lost Temple - incontrol (P) < qxc (T)
Game 2 - Kalus Ravine - Idra (Z) > qxc (T)
Game 3 - Steppes of War - Idra (Z) > zelniq (Z)
Game 4 - Scrap Station - qxc (T) > cowsrule (Z)
Game 5 - Lost Temple - Idra > qxc


There's a mistake here. Game 4 it was Idra who beat cowsrule.
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