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ONCHEhap
Profile Joined June 2018
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-26 23:28:03
June 26 2018 23:04 GMT
#1
Hello,I'm a fairly new zerg player,and I hit diamond 3 recently

However,I have a huge mechanics problem : I do not do creep

Without exxageration,I end 98% of my games without making one single creep tumour,I wanted to spend my time in silver and gold league to learn how to creep,but during the season change,I got catapulted from silver 1 to platinium 3,and then climbed way too fast (imo) to diamond 3,however,my lack of creep is a real issue,and diamond is not really a good place to learn very basic bronze tier zerg mechanics,and not being able to do it cripples me very much against terran players

My issue is that getting so high pretty much cemented my hotkey usage and my mechanics,and even when playing alone or against AI,I just cannot seem to really spread creep effectively,trying to do it makes me break down to the point where I start missing injects,messing up my larva,mess up my command groups and overall play terribly bad.

I wonder if someone could give me any advice or trick or anything like that to help me get started,and if anyone ever was in the same situation (which may be unlikely as creep spread is something players tend to start working on as early as bronze league)
Noak3
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States236 Posts
June 26 2018 23:44 GMT
#2
Watch this video:


And then add "spread creep tumor" on to the end of this macro cycle.

Also, after your natural is built, always make a 3rd queen. That queen is your creep queen. It only spreads creep.

Practice these two things in a custom game until it's part of your muscle memory.
Love and be kind in the face of adversity. If you stand up for others, they will stand up for you.
ONCHEhap
Profile Joined June 2018
5 Posts
June 26 2018 23:46 GMT
#3
thanks,I'll try
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
June 28 2018 15:16 GMT
#4
Making a creep queen works wonders, you need a good number of queens anyways in most situations. Assign a hotkey and implement the creep queen into your macro cycle.

More tips:
- Use camera hotkeys
- Use the rapid fire technique to spread creep faster

I always try to spread creep directly after the injects, because it just feels right that way.
Practice the cycle in unranked mode.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
ONCHEhap
Profile Joined June 2018
5 Posts
June 28 2018 15:34 GMT
#5
Adding creep to my macro cycle helps wonders
I do injects->spread tumours->make tumours every 30 seconds,still a bit wonky for now,but it's a considerable upgrade over what I did before,thanks all for your help
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-29 16:48:33
June 29 2018 16:47 GMT
#6
4.5k MMR zerg here, but here's what i do:

i put extra queens on hotkey group 5. 1 army, 2 second army, 3 muta/miscellaneous, 4 hatcheries, 5 queens

the queen hotkey is useful not only for creep but also for defense against drops. i usually spread tumors in each direction and then move my queens to the main for defense against drops. then if my opponent starts clearing creep i return queens to the front line to add more tumors. if i want queens in the main fight i simply shift+1 to add them to group 1, then if the fight is over and my queens are alive i alt+5 them to return them to group 5 and remove them from group 1.

honestly, making tumors is very easy. spreading them is pretty easy too. the more important thing is replacing tumors. it's very common for your creep queens to just sit in the middle of the map and get killed while your tumors are also killed, and then suddenly you have no creep even though you made 1000 tumors in early game. i would just throw the queens on a hotkey and work on keeping some attention on them so you can get more use out of them. in zvt creep is important and you can go up to 5-10 queens for midgame defense, so zvt is a good place to start

rapid fire i don't feel is necessary unless you're master+ and competing seriously. you can spread creep correctly without it. doing it faster isn't going to make your macro cleaner, it's just rushing
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ONCHEhap
Profile Joined June 2018
5 Posts
June 29 2018 18:51 GMT
#7
Yeah I tried using rapidfire,but as a creep noob it just makes me put my creep in less desired positions,maybe I'll do that once I get good,but for now I'll do without
ONCHEhap
Profile Joined June 2018
5 Posts
July 03 2018 16:56 GMT
#8
Update : I won my first game against a diamond terran in a long time thanks to creep,at least it has helped a considerable amount
Thanks to you all for helping me :D
I still have some work to do on my creep,but the difference compared to before is staggering
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