• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:58
CEST 21:58
KST 04:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202550RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16
Community News
BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams5Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed19Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission re-extension4
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing RSL Season 1 - Final Week
Tourneys
Esports World Cup 2025 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [Update] ShieldBattery: 2025 Redesign BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams Ginuda's JaeDong Interview Series
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Post Pic of your Favorite Food! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 799 users

PiG Daily Strategy Articles: ZvZ Slowling All-In

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
12 CommentsPost a Reply

PiG Daily Strategy Articles: ZvZ Slowling All-In

Text byTL Strategy
Graphics byNixer
February 1st, 2017 17:46 GMT
The PiG DailyThe BuildThings to Remember



PiG Daily Strategy Articles




Welcome to the first PiG Daily strategy article! The PiG Daily is a show by Jared "PiG" Krensel that focuses on StarCraft 2 strategy and becoming a better player. We've joined forces to create an article series that summarizes his dailies into short, digestible articles that provide insight on builds, tactics and game sense. By combining with Spawning Tool, this series will bring you the most comprehensive learning experience for build orders and strategies.

How to use Spawning Tool

We highly recommend using Spawning Tool in order to follow the basics of these builds. The PiG Daily and our strategy articles will serve as supplementary guides to understand the subtleties behind each decision.

Today, we have a build for your ZvZ woes: The Slow Ling All-In.

Link to the Spawning Tool Build

The Build




This build is specifically tailored to ZvZ. As the title suggests, it is an all-in with slow lings that aims to overwhelm your opponent before they can mount a solid defense or get banelings.


ZvZ Slowling All-In

13Spawning Pool
Extractor Trick to 15/14
15Overlord
15Queen
175x Zergling
22Hatchery
21Extractor Trick for 2nd Queen
23Overlord
Nonstop Zerglings from here



This is a surprising cheese build that works specifically because it does the opposite of what your opponent should expect from the opening. You open up with a fast 13 pool 10 ling pressure which can do anything from just forcing units out of your opponent to destroying their hatchery or killing all their workers. You follow up with a fast natural expansion and try to kill their first overlord with your queen. From here you don’t drone at all and simply mass slow zerglings and some extra queens and launch a very surprising attack across the map - avoiding your opponent's vision as much as possible.

The build is effective because you limit your opponent's vision to one key piece of information in the early game: your expansion. This tells your opponent that combined with the early zergling rush there’s no way for you to have any gas mining whilst affording a zergling rush AND an expansion. The opponent should conclude that you can’t be aggressive since you won’t have ling speed or many roaches for a long time and will often play quite greedy. This is where you pull out your slow zergling attack. Your 2 queens should move out ahead of the attack to push back or snipe any overlords that might scout your ling move-out, buying you extra seconds of surprise to get your swarm of slow lings across the map.

[image loading]

[image loading]

Notice Scarlett's production tab and vision. She hasn't scouted beyond the outside of PiG's natural base, and has her own third on the way along with more drones while PiG is about to hit.


Key Strategic Points



  • Inject with your first queen and send it out immediately to deny your opponent's overlord from scouting. The most crucial part to make this plan working is denying your opponent information, and warding off their overlords is the first step in doing so.

  • Pressure with your first 10 lings. Once they are built, send them to your opponent and with them you can force units, deny their natural and kill workers. Once they have the advantage, pull out and keep them hidden on the map for future pressure.

  • While the initial pressure is going on, pool all your additional lings back home and keep them hidden. It’s key that your opponent does not see them; you have to sell to your opponent that you are macroing behind this for the cheese to work.

  • After making your expansion, you should only have 14 drones. Invest everything into lings for the attack, each zergling counts.

  • When killing overlords, ‘fake’ the queen pullback to sell that you are not going to be offensive with them. Your opponent has visions of units that recently killed their overlords, so do a fake pullback on your queens and then send them again to your opponent's base.



  • Again, stay out of your opponent's vision with your lings. Control the watchtowers, and use your own overlords for vision of where his are not, and use these lanes to your advantage for the surprise attack.

  • You can transition out of this if you cause a lot of damage. Around the time your first wave of lings hits their base you should swap to drone production at home and add a gas so you can swap into roach production and ling speed for a potential follow-up attack.


Brought to you by the TL Strategy Team
Writer: PiG/TL Strategy
Graphics: shiroiusagi
Facebook Twitter Reddit
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4915 Posts
February 01 2017 18:00 GMT
#2
great build, so tired of ZvZ in the ladder, gotta end up quick!
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
itsdaniel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Austria334 Posts
February 01 2017 22:46 GMT
#3
i like those posts so much why so late TL?
OFFICIAL #1 STORK FAN // Stork:"This past week, there's a foreign fan named Daniel who got caught on the camera a few times. He came from Vienna in Austria to come and see me, and he wanted to be mentioned in one of my interviews."
Bijan
Profile Joined October 2010
United States286 Posts
February 02 2017 01:25 GMT
#4
This is a wonderful write up. I've started using Spawning Tool and I've been watching PiG for a while. Thank you for this!
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
February 02 2017 01:47 GMT
#5
On February 02 2017 07:46 itsdaniel wrote:
i like those posts so much why so late TL?


gonna catch up to him soon
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
February 02 2017 02:22 GMT
#6
Might try this on the ladder soon. Looks quirky and also pretty aggravating to play against
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
PiGStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia987 Posts
February 02 2017 05:14 GMT
#7
On February 02 2017 11:22 Thalandros wrote:
Might try this on the ladder soon. Looks quirky and also pretty aggravating to play against


It's a fun one! Best on small maps, and as with all wild cheeses, best used with no fear!
Progamerwww.twitch.tv/x5_pig | pigrandom88@gmail.com | @x5_PiG | www.facebook.com/pigSC2
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
February 02 2017 15:05 GMT
#8
these strategy guides might actually make me ladder again, I never really got the hang of LotV pace. Thanks for making this!
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Railgan
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland1507 Posts
February 02 2017 15:43 GMT
#9
If you build a bane nest @50 gas after Ling Speed you should do fine against this. In case any of you are worried.
Grandmaster Zerg from Switzerland!!! www.twitch.tv/railgan // www.twitter.com/railgansc // www.youtube.com/c/railgansc
SpaceYeti
Profile Joined June 2010
United States723 Posts
February 03 2017 01:59 GMT
#10
Thanks for this, PiG! We need more guide and builds for LotV on here, even the cheesy ones. I'll definitely have to give this one a try in a few games, if just to try something different.
Behavior is a function of its consequences.
passmwalpain
Profile Joined November 2015
3 Posts
February 03 2017 08:47 GMT
#11
Sorry to post that here, but is there a post where we can discuss with the develloper of spawning tool and give our feedback ?
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
February 03 2017 13:15 GMT
#12
builds like this are great on ladder
1) you win quick
2) you lose quick (or the all in fails) unless you cripple their economy to the point yours is [which in RTS is very rare]
3) your opponents are typically cycled out after 1 game (very rare to get matched up against the same person multiple times)
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
PiGStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia987 Posts
February 04 2017 22:46 GMT
#13
On February 03 2017 17:47 passmwalpain wrote:
Sorry to post that here, but is there a post where we can discuss with the develloper of spawning tool and give our feedback ?


Here's probably a good place: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/495133-announcing-spawning-tool-build-orders
Progamerwww.twitch.tv/x5_pig | pigrandom88@gmail.com | @x5_PiG | www.facebook.com/pigSC2
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 15h 2m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .273
Nathanias 120
ForJumy 112
BRAT_OK 104
ProTech71
MindelVK 32
StarCraft: Brood War
Mini 560
ivOry 5
Counter-Strike
fl0m3858
Fnx 1090
sgares375
Foxcn348
Stewie2K253
oskar204
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu486
Other Games
FrodaN3438
Gorgc2856
qojqva959
Dendi670
C9.Mang0121
QueenE82
Trikslyr81
Sick38
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV29
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 9
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21989
• WagamamaTV687
Other Games
• imaqtpie1728
• Shiphtur434
Upcoming Events
Esports World Cup
15h 2m
Serral vs Cure
Solar vs Classic
OSC
18h 2m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 14h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 18h
CSO Cup
1d 20h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 22h
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
FEL
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
Online Event
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Xiamen Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
CC Div. A S7
Underdog Cup #2
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.