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vahgar.r24
Profile Joined October 2010
India465 Posts
June 14 2013 11:05 GMT
#1

Done by a moderator (I think) from all things protoss on reddit . Link to the video below

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8hYrEOGJVU


Basically change unit management from left key to 'W' your default key for warp gate , hold shift + hot key of the unit (say zealot) and move mouse over the pylon field - I think this maybe similar to the infestor trick ?

Looks pretty nifty.
Somethings are just worth fighting for
hearters
Profile Joined May 2013
Singapore224 Posts
June 14 2013 14:39 GMT
#2
Yup that's what I do too Ever since I found out about the creep spread trick.
Research: 1. Creep Spread Trick 2. Patrol Splitting Zerglings 3. Multiple Queen Production 4. Organised Creep Spread 5. Select Larvae/Morph Unit Rapidfire
AwM
Profile Joined November 2012
United States80 Posts
June 14 2013 15:07 GMT
#3
I was wondering if this was going to spread(hehe) past zerg creep tumors after the same trick got poster here.
Every time you read this a SCV dies.
yOngKIN
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (North)656 Posts
June 14 2013 15:57 GMT
#4
Means more problem for me as a zerg
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
June 14 2013 17:51 GMT
#5
Cool thing. I'm pretty set in my ways, so it'll be a while I really get used to this. However, it seems like it's only extraordinarily useful for mass zealot warpins. Otherwise, the old shift-clicking technique is plenty fast enough (and a lot more accurate).
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skorched
Profile Joined October 2010
United States81 Posts
June 17 2013 00:51 GMT
#6
Very similar to the infestor trick, i use the infestor trick for mass warpins myself personally, just seems alot more useful, you can use it for FF too but don`t plan on them being very accurate :-), feedback it works great as well.
I love the sound of Medivacs getting feedbacked.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27192 Posts
June 17 2013 05:24 GMT
#7
Perhaps it's sleep deprivation that causes me to ask this and it might be a dumb question, but does this make it awkward at all to say, warp in mixes of units? Like can it warp in 'too fast' or anything?
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5224 Posts
June 17 2013 05:26 GMT
#8
This is awesome, thanks.
hearters
Profile Joined May 2013
Singapore224 Posts
June 17 2013 05:43 GMT
#9
On June 17 2013 14:24 Wombat_NI wrote:
Perhaps it's sleep deprivation that causes me to ask this and it might be a dumb question, but does this make it awkward at all to say, warp in mixes of units? Like can it warp in 'too fast' or anything?


It can be awkward.

Solution is to warp in specific numbers of what you want less of first. Then spam the rest.
Research: 1. Creep Spread Trick 2. Patrol Splitting Zerglings 3. Multiple Queen Production 4. Organised Creep Spread 5. Select Larvae/Morph Unit Rapidfire
Fig
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1324 Posts
June 17 2013 05:44 GMT
#10
On June 17 2013 14:24 Wombat_NI wrote:
Perhaps it's sleep deprivation that causes me to ask this and it might be a dumb question, but does this make it awkward at all to say, warp in mixes of units? Like can it warp in 'too fast' or anything?

Well I guess the limiting factor in this case is how much you move your mouse. It makes sense that it would set another unit to warp in as close as it can to the last one. So if you only make a small arc with your mouse, only a set number of units can fit to warp in that arc you made. If you make a larger arc, you might just use all your warpgates without meaning to.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27192 Posts
June 17 2013 05:58 GMT
#11
On June 17 2013 14:43 hearters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 14:24 Wombat_NI wrote:
Perhaps it's sleep deprivation that causes me to ask this and it might be a dumb question, but does this make it awkward at all to say, warp in mixes of units? Like can it warp in 'too fast' or anything?


It can be awkward.

Solution is to warp in specific numbers of what you want less of first. Then spam the rest.

I may have this solely as a vT hotkey setup. Zealots are usually pretty good!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
archwaykitten
Profile Joined May 2010
90 Posts
June 17 2013 19:09 GMT
#12
Does this let you quickly warp in any gateway unit? Currently my unit management hotkey overlaps with my "warp in zealot" key, so I can only use this trick on that one unit. I would love to be able to quickly warp in stalkers, sentries, etc as well.

Can you also be set up to use the same trick to quickly cast feedback or graviton beam (or ghost snipe or infested terrans)? We only have one hotkey we can overlap with the unit management one, and it seems like if you use it on warp gate you will be blocked from using it anywhere else in the game.
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
June 17 2013 19:11 GMT
#13
Already explored at Zerg side

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=412130
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 19:13:14
June 17 2013 19:13 GMT
#14
On June 18 2013 04:09 archwaykitten wrote:
Does this let you quickly warp in any gateway unit? Currently my unit management hotkey overlaps with my "warp in zealot" key, so I can only use this trick on that one unit. I would love to be able to quickly warp in stalkers, sentries, etc as well.

Can you also be set up to use the same trick to quickly cast feedback or graviton beam (or ghost snipe or infested terrans)? We only have one hotkey we can overlap with the unit management one, and it seems like if you use it on warp gate you will be blocked from using it anywhere else in the game.

You can add more hotkeys for same command via hotkeys file in your Documents

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More about it here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386958
archwaykitten
Profile Joined May 2010
90 Posts
June 17 2013 21:49 GMT
#15
Thanks! I'll give that a try. Spamming zealots, especially from a warp prism, is one of the most fun things I've found in this game. Hopefully that'll extend to the other units as well.
deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 23:28:02
June 17 2013 23:25 GMT
#16
On June 14 2013 20:05 vahgar.r24 wrote:

Done by a moderator (I think) from all things protoss on reddit . Link to the video below

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8hYrEOGJVU


Basically change unit management from left key to 'W' your default key for warp gate , hold shift + hot key of the unit (say zealot) and move mouse over the pylon field - I think this maybe similar to the infestor trick ?

Looks pretty nifty.


Can someone please explain this a bit further? What is the Unit Mangement key? What does it normally? How does changing this key to also be W help with warping in units?

I normally just hit W, then hold down the unit hotkey, s for stalkers, z for zealots, etc...then proceed to spam click as fast as I can or money will allow.

I'm slow, sorry.
hearters
Profile Joined May 2013
Singapore224 Posts
June 18 2013 00:46 GMT
#17
you can do this for any units without editing anything out of game.

options...hotkeys...unit management...choose ability or ai target. set it to whatever, let's say X.

so i hit
4 (my warp Gates hotkey)
Z (for zealot)
hold X and wave the mouse around

4
S
hold X and wave for stalkers etc.
Research: 1. Creep Spread Trick 2. Patrol Splitting Zerglings 3. Multiple Queen Production 4. Organised Creep Spread 5. Select Larvae/Morph Unit Rapidfire
vahgar.r24
Profile Joined October 2010
India465 Posts
June 18 2013 07:10 GMT
#18
Im confused as well now lol
Somethings are just worth fighting for
MasterDrone
Profile Joined January 2013
France50 Posts
June 18 2013 09:20 GMT
#19
On June 15 2013 00:07 AwM wrote:
I was wondering if this was going to spread(hehe) past zerg creep tumors after the same trick got poster here.


Is there any way to add more than 1 alternative to hot keys?
Gemini_19
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1258 Posts
June 20 2013 14:52 GMT
#20
On June 18 2013 08:25 deadmau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 20:05 vahgar.r24 wrote:

Done by a moderator (I think) from all things protoss on reddit . Link to the video below

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8hYrEOGJVU


Basically change unit management from left key to 'W' your default key for warp gate , hold shift + hot key of the unit (say zealot) and move mouse over the pylon field - I think this maybe similar to the infestor trick ?

Looks pretty nifty.


Can someone please explain this a bit further? What is the Unit Mangement key? What does it normally? How does changing this key to also be W help with warping in units?

I normally just hit W, then hold down the unit hotkey, s for stalkers, z for zealots, etc...then proceed to spam click as fast as I can or money will allow.

I'm slow, sorry.


Hey I'm the one that made the video.

The Unit Management key is normally default to the left mouse button. So putting this as an alternative as well makes it so that when you select the unit you want to warp in, you use the same button to both say you want to warp it in and where you want to warp it in at the same time. In my example it was "W". You're eliminating the mouse click with this method allowing you to spam out a huge amount of units in 1-2 seconds. It really saves a lot of time during late game engagements (which is really the only time this is used to great effect).

@hearters: Is that not what I'm doing in the video?
@GGemini19 GM Protoss | http://www.twitch.tv/geminisc2 | I <333 HerO & Trap | Check out my Build of the Week series on /r/allthingsprotoss, TL, or Spawning Tool
hearters
Profile Joined May 2013
Singapore224 Posts
June 21 2013 01:19 GMT
#21
sorry i don't play protoss much. what does the warp in (default W) key do?

i was just describing the method simply for those not watching the video or still confused.
Research: 1. Creep Spread Trick 2. Patrol Splitting Zerglings 3. Multiple Queen Production 4. Organised Creep Spread 5. Select Larvae/Morph Unit Rapidfire
Gemini_19
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1258 Posts
June 22 2013 04:57 GMT
#22
On June 21 2013 10:19 hearters wrote:
sorry i don't play protoss much. what does the warp in (default W) key do?

i was just describing the method simply for those not watching the video or still confused.


Oh oh I thought you were saying that what you said was a different way to do it. W simply selects all warp gates, so it's just more convenient to use that key to do the warp in as well so that way it's just W, shift + Z, and hold W to spam out a shitton of zealots.
@GGemini19 GM Protoss | http://www.twitch.tv/geminisc2 | I <333 HerO & Trap | Check out my Build of the Week series on /r/allthingsprotoss, TL, or Spawning Tool
cabal]
Profile Joined January 2013
Belgium37 Posts
June 22 2013 08:20 GMT
#23
If you understand the use of the shift key in games it is self understandable that you can use shift to issue more commands. No offense but if you just figured that out now that's pretty weak. Im not even a tos player but I know that shift works with warpins and also with mules and many other stuff. It's noting new.
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
June 22 2013 09:47 GMT
#24
On June 18 2013 08:25 deadmau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 20:05 vahgar.r24 wrote:

Done by a moderator (I think) from all things protoss on reddit . Link to the video below

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8hYrEOGJVU


Basically change unit management from left key to 'W' your default key for warp gate , hold shift + hot key of the unit (say zealot) and move mouse over the pylon field - I think this maybe similar to the infestor trick ?

Looks pretty nifty.


Can someone please explain this a bit further? What is the Unit Mangement key? What does it normally? How does changing this key to also be W help with warping in units?

I normally just hit W, then hold down the unit hotkey, s for stalkers, z for zealots, etc...then proceed to spam click as fast as I can or money will allow.

I'm slow, sorry.


Watch the video.

Seriously...
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hearters
Profile Joined May 2013
Singapore224 Posts
June 22 2013 09:52 GMT
#25
On June 22 2013 17:20 cabal] wrote:
If you understand the use of the shift key in games it is self understandable that you can use shift to issue more commands. No offense but if you just figured that out now that's pretty weak. Im not even a tos player but I know that shift works with warpins and also with mules and many other stuff. It's noting new.


it's the holding a key to spam units instead of clicking, rather than the use of shift, which is being proposed in this thread.

anyhow, I've been doing more testing and research on doing this versus spamming clicks and this just saves on doing lots of clicking if you find that tiring or painful. speed wise there's no real difference until you have like more than fifteen warp gates and you're only warping in one type of unit.

mechanically speaking, it's good practice to click the exact number of units you need at exactly where you want them.
Research: 1. Creep Spread Trick 2. Patrol Splitting Zerglings 3. Multiple Queen Production 4. Organised Creep Spread 5. Select Larvae/Morph Unit Rapidfire
Gemini_19
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1258 Posts
June 22 2013 22:49 GMT
#26
On June 22 2013 18:52 hearters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 17:20 cabal] wrote:
If you understand the use of the shift key in games it is self understandable that you can use shift to issue more commands. No offense but if you just figured that out now that's pretty weak. Im not even a tos player but I know that shift works with warpins and also with mules and many other stuff. It's noting new.


it's the holding a key to spam units instead of clicking, rather than the use of shift, which is being proposed in this thread.

anyhow, I've been doing more testing and research on doing this versus spamming clicks and this just saves on doing lots of clicking if you find that tiring or painful. speed wise there's no real difference until you have like more than fifteen warp gates and you're only warping in one type of unit.

mechanically speaking, it's good practice to click the exact number of units you need at exactly where you want them.


Exactly, it's mostly useful for mass warp ins of zealots in late game situations in the heat of battle. It can also be used for really fast stalker warp ins etc. for 2 base all ins. The cool thing about this tho is that you can still do the old precise method as well for the more important units like sentries and HT's or when you don't need a shitton of units.
@GGemini19 GM Protoss | http://www.twitch.tv/geminisc2 | I <333 HerO & Trap | Check out my Build of the Week series on /r/allthingsprotoss, TL, or Spawning Tool
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