[G] How to cannon rush properly on daybreak PvP

-9 pylon
- send your tenth probe to his base
-13 forge, send this probe to his base too
-270-300 mineral start cannon rush

It is because we want start our cannon rush when we got around 270-300 mineral in bank. Why just then we come back later to. And by experience I know it work best with 13 probes then, two who cannon rush and 11 who mine. Here is a diagram there I test 12 forge 12 probe, 13 forge 13probe and 14 forge 14 probe. I test really quick against how much mineral u got in different time with 12,13,14 forge.

We want to start our cannon rush around 270-300 mineral. Because we want to have enough mineral to put up two pylons, cancel one, put up 2 more, build cannon then more pylon and cannon. So we need to have a little bank so we can keep walling. When u got around 270 mineral you build your first pylon, then so quick as possible your second on this location that I show in the picture below.


Now u got some time to bm or troll him.
And check how he response. It is 4 cases:
1: He attack pylon number one,
2: He attack pylon number two.
3: He attacks both pylons.
4: He build new nexus and "restart"

Case 1:

If he attack pylon number one you build two more pylon behind it and cancel pylon number one when it is 99% finish. Then put up a cannon.


Case 2:

If he attack pylon number two u just build pylon behind it and and cancel pylon number two when it is 99% finish. Then put up a cannon.


Case 3:

If he attack booth pylon, you build two pylons behind pylon number one, cancel pylon number one when it is 99% finish and then cannon, then pylon behind pylon number two. And then one more cannon more or a pylon depend on the situation. Often it doesn’t matter so just put that u think is fun ^_^ Why shall we start wall behind pylon number one before pylon number two? This is because of pylon number one can be attack by 6 probe , and pylon number two just by 4 probe, So we need to secure that side first.

Case 4:

If he throw down a nexus and try "restart" it will be ez win for u. Start build probe, build gate way and throw down gas. The easiest way to win now is to just go a simple four gate and you win. Try to build cannon to snipe his tech building like gateway and core in his main base.

Many players who cannon rush on this map place their pylon and forge at the ramp so you can wall of quick with cannon behind. That is good, but not perfect. We need a good placement so we can defend if he takes all his probe and 1-3 zealot to your base for a counter attack, and good placement so we can defend if the other player cannon rush you. And defend proxy 2 gate inside your base.
We shall place our buildning like this

Like I said this map is popular for PvP cannon rush, So you will often face other guy that cannon rush you. If he cannon rush you, our buildingplacement will help us to defend it. This is one reason why u not should build the pylon and forge at the top of the ramp. For now can you just build cannon in your mineral line to defend his cannon rush. And then go for your own cannon rush. If he go same or similar buildingplacement as you, don´t even try to cannon rush, it will fail. Just drop quick gateway and go macro mode. But if he is dumb like a true toss is, he build his pylon at the ramp you can try to cannon rush behind his mineral line. He needs to build a pylon beside his mineral line to put up cannon to defend against this, so your cannon will finish a couple of second before his. So just keep build cannon and focus fire his cannon and the victory is yours.

You can´t let him make wall, If he make the wall you have loose. So you need prevent the wall. One way is to just get a probe behind the mineral line or on the position there pylon one or two shall be placed. Then he can´t make a wall. But on this way we lose mining time and we don’t know if he even going to cannon rush us. So we solve this problem with buildingplacement. When I play macro game PvP on daybreak I use this buildingplacement to prevent him from cannon rush me.


If my first pylon is on this spot it prevent him from create a wall with pylon behind my mineral line. So I never have to worry about cannon rush

A other buildingplacement that counter this cannon rush is this


This building is more safe, but u got less place to put other building on.

Well you are pretty much fuck for life. But you can try to see if you can improvise a good wall in some corner of his base and try cannon rush there.

A standard cannon rush on daybreak

http://drop.sc/313915

Some improvise cannonrush when they prevent me from walling behind mineral line

http://drop.sc/313917
http://drop.sc/313910

cannonrush vs cannonrush replay

http://drop.sc/262870
http://drop.sc/313914

And of course cannon rush on this map between mc and feast.

*add one counter buldingplacment under spoiler "How to counter this"
*add one cast game between mc and feast on daybreak under spoiler "Replay"