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There are no plans for a guide to other match-ups at this time. This guide was an entirely organic effort from TL community members of similar interests.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
November 28 2012 00:09 GMT
#541
On November 28 2012 08:42 CecilSunkure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 07:56 Channel Pressure wrote:
Uhh. . Can someone setup a donation form for this? This is worthy of monetary compensation. OUTSTANDING.

Probably would except there's nothing to do with the money


I'd buy beers with it probably :D
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
MadJack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Peru357 Posts
November 28 2012 00:24 GMT
#542
Great, because thats exactly what was needed in this match up, make protoss even better. -.-!

User was warned for this post
이제동 화이팅! / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26jjD3ro-Xk /
AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
November 28 2012 00:47 GMT
#543
Damn Kids!

This is some next level A grade Colombian disco play by play outland 4x4 offroad/onroad 2x2 inland offshore/onshore Swiss highground - lowair intel!

Massive thanks for creating and posting this. It is perfect!
Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
November 28 2012 00:53 GMT
#544
Wow, looks like some amazing work went into this. Congrats to all who worked on it.
Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.
Serecius
Profile Joined September 2012
Poland3 Posts
November 28 2012 01:30 GMT
#545
I dont get it. Who will need a guide for most faceroll/dumb race in game?
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
November 28 2012 01:52 GMT
#546
On November 28 2012 10:30 Serecius wrote:
I dont get it. Who will need a guide for most faceroll/dumb race in game?

I think you have protoss and zerg confused. We definitely don't need a zerg guide;everyone is getting facerolled by the dumb infestor-bl composition, and roach remaxes anyway. This guide is about PvZ, not ZvP. So don't worry, the most faceroll/dumb race in the game isn't getting a guid, it's the protoss that actually need to outplay the zergs 10x to beat them lategame. This guide will give pointers on how to outplay them, that's why it's good.

Hope that clears up your doubts! ^^

In other words, lolbalancewhiner.
NET
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States703 Posts
November 28 2012 02:55 GMT
#547
This is a masterpiece!
"Dark Templar are the saviors of the Protoss Race." -Artosis
evilpeoples
Profile Joined November 2012
52 Posts
November 28 2012 03:51 GMT
#548
This... is simply amazing. THANK YOU SO MUCH! Such a great read; very well informed and well written. Simply awesome.
Go Parting, Life, Rain, Innovation
Quasimoto3000
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States471 Posts
November 28 2012 04:48 GMT
#549
This.... is..... incredible.
Every sunday a nun lays from my gunplay
Mojumbo
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada11 Posts
November 28 2012 05:15 GMT
#550
Now that is epic content! Good stuff
Epic Win.
Superpower
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia212 Posts
November 28 2012 05:16 GMT
#551
Now one for tvp/tvz oh wait that's to hard P
Taeja <3
Frosty007
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia18 Posts
November 28 2012 05:48 GMT
#552
This is amazing
Time to go to war.
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2574 Posts
November 28 2012 06:21 GMT
#553
Holy. Shit. Thanks so much for this as it is my worst matchup. I know it will help me a great deal and I'm so glad TL has people like you guys.
SolarJto
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States260 Posts
November 28 2012 07:14 GMT
#554
Very great guide :D
-University of New Mexico CSL Coordinator-
xShoeicide
Profile Joined August 2011
New Zealand41 Posts
November 28 2012 07:50 GMT
#555
Wow... just wow
Joneleth
Profile Joined July 2012
Denmark90 Posts
November 28 2012 08:32 GMT
#556
There is an error in it, it says:

◦Double Evolution Chamber: No initial aggression

But thats far from always the case, exspecially Stephano has pioneered going double evo off 6:00 gas timings and then sevely delaying roach warren to primarily rely on lings. So if you scout a early macro hatchery (around 8:00) combined with double evo then it usually means early aggression, whereas if theres only the 3 hatcheries then its less likely.
Rape is such an ugly word, lets call it surprise sex!
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
November 28 2012 08:36 GMT
#557
On November 28 2012 17:32 Joneleth wrote:
There is an error in it, it says:

◦Double Evolution Chamber: No initial aggression

But thats far from always the case, exspecially Stephano has pioneered going double evo off 6:00 gas timings and then sevely delaying roach warren to primarily rely on lings. So if you scout a early macro hatchery (around 8:00) combined with double evo then it usually means early aggression, whereas if theres only the 3 hatcheries then its less likely.

I believe that small bullet list is referring to 3 hatch play.
jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
November 28 2012 08:40 GMT
#558
this is a lot of reading material.. you should publishi this as a book :D.
Anyhow.. great writeup.. very good especially for lower leagues but also for masters and so.. cause of the buildorders form the gossu players in za replays.

Congratz for this.
Maru | Life | herO
Joneleth
Profile Joined July 2012
Denmark90 Posts
November 28 2012 08:40 GMT
#559
On November 28 2012 17:36 CecilSunkure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 17:32 Joneleth wrote:
There is an error in it, it says:

◦Double Evolution Chamber: No initial aggression

But thats far from always the case, exspecially Stephano has pioneered going double evo off 6:00 gas timings and then sevely delaying roach warren to primarily rely on lings. So if you scout a early macro hatchery (around 8:00) combined with double evo then it usually means early aggression, whereas if theres only the 3 hatcheries then its less likely.

I believe that small bullet list is referring to 3 hatch play.


That may be the case but i cant see that referenced anywhere, or atleast its vague enough that it warrants a elaboration to avoid misconceptions from people learning from the thread.
Rape is such an ugly word, lets call it surprise sex!
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
November 28 2012 08:43 GMT
#560
On November 28 2012 17:40 Joneleth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 17:36 CecilSunkure wrote:
On November 28 2012 17:32 Joneleth wrote:
There is an error in it, it says:

◦Double Evolution Chamber: No initial aggression

But thats far from always the case, exspecially Stephano has pioneered going double evo off 6:00 gas timings and then sevely delaying roach warren to primarily rely on lings. So if you scout a early macro hatchery (around 8:00) combined with double evo then it usually means early aggression, whereas if theres only the 3 hatcheries then its less likely.

I believe that small bullet list is referring to 3 hatch play.


That may be the case but i cant see that referenced anywhere, or atleast its vague enough that it warrants a elaboration to avoid misconceptions from people learning from the thread.


I don't think it's vague at all, given that the section is called "Scouting" and includes this quote:
There are three distinct ways to play the early-mid game for Zerg from a 3 Hatch opening versus a FFE. They are characterized by the number of gasses they take and the timing at which they take them:


And the following section is called "two base play from zerg" it seems pretty clear that it's talking about three base play
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