EPTLittle tired, someone wanna explain how this is different from normal +1 4gate into blink timing. Because this build seems something what 3base nogas roachling defence is good against.
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Ryndika
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Little tired, someone wanna explain how this is different from normal +1 4gate into blink timing. Because this build seems something what 3base nogas roachling defence is good against. | ||
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hellokittySC2
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Nightshade_
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Eifer
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Mavvie
Canada923 Posts
Why not take a third around 12:00? Whenever I do the build, I have no gas but ~1.5k minerals by 15:00, so why not just take a third as soon as you can afford it? Maybe my macro's just bad, but I always have tons of spare minerals but no gas. You could then mine at least the gas there, and support more gateways! Here's a replay of me crushing a Zerg with it: http://drop.sc/257523 I wish there was a way to reactively do it (say, I scout he's going for fast mutas) however, there's no way to do that. It's still a sick all-in and awesome to use against friends and ladder opponents who are BM :D | ||
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hellokittySC2
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Mavvie
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On September 25 2012 21:49 area51Hellokitty wrote: hi, first of all, your version is a slight variation, when you sacrificed probe production to get 4 gateways(a bit faster than mine) with a nexus first build, your +1 zealot timing didnt line up with your pylon timing, i dont think they were even warped in(extra 400 minerals), you didnt mine from your 4th gas for a good minute or so, you had only 3 sentries, your chrono usage was off, and yes, 2 bases can support only 6 gateways, thats why you have extra gas banked up that way you dont have to warp in zealots instead of stalkers towards the end, and you shouldn't have extra minerals because the most efficient way is to make only 46 probes. Yeah, I wasn't actually going off the build order  I read it a long time ago, thought "damn that's strong", and now that I've raceswitched I tried it out. I just did a general 4gate +1 into 7gate +2 blink doing things as I go, but after rereading this a few times I think I'll execute it a lot better ^^I'm bad at proxy pylons, I suppose I should make a few hidden ones BEFORE I actually need the warp-in. I still felt ahead after the failed 4gate +1 because he only had like, 40 drones. A smarter warp in could've forced even more lings. I did execute it badly, forgot to chrono +2, forgot to mine the last gas (I swear my shift and control keys are buggy), but it was still terribly effective. I had too many probes resulting in too many minerals? Okay, good to know. Final question: During the attack, is it worth it to dump chrono's into your WGs? If you can't even support production, I can't see any chrono usage being valuable at all... | ||
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tehemperorer
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Mavvie
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Both ways you attack with a lot of zealots once +1 finishes, I'd say that 4gate +1 is probably better because it's harder to scout, and you get 4 gateways. Still good to do though. 4gate +1 into DTs is apparently really good lol, honestly 4gate +1 into anything is awesome. Zergs in diamond/low masters can't scout 4g+1 to save their life haha | ||
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Salient
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Mavvie
Canada923 Posts
Zergs at my level (mid/high diamond) are so bad, they don't throw down a 6:30 roach warren when there's no gas at your natural at that time. As a result, 4gate +1 will always do TONS of damage. Teoita even says that his go-to PvZ strat is 4gate +1 into (6 gate?) DTs, because zergs even at his level fail to scout the attack and as a result aren't prepared. Basically, 4gate +1 delays your push by a little bit, but you need a mineral dump anyways to get sentries, and sentries are a great addition to your blink stalker force. IMO it's always worth it to do the 4gate +1 pressure before the 7gate +2 blink. | ||
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hellokittySC2
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LiLSighKoh
United States588 Posts
On September 29 2012 08:04 area51Hellokitty wrote: yea, i have another build that i might put up with 4 gate dt into fast 3rd, though if your opponent doesnt make roaches they can just die to the +1 zealots Definitely put it up please! | ||
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
On September 29 2012 08:04 area51Hellokitty wrote: yea, i have another build that i might put up with 4 gate dt into fast 3rd, though if your opponent doesnt make roaches they can just die to the +1 zealots Looking forward to that! Also, quick question do you have any replays under the current patch? | ||
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