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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-30 13:42:24
March 30 2014 13:41 GMT
#6341
[MLG]GCA
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States90 Posts
March 30 2014 17:30 GMT
#6342
Deciding to try this out. I've read a good portion of the thread and watched the videos. The concept is really cool. Time to start drilling some hotkeys
kalimann
Profile Joined November 2013
9 Posts
April 01 2014 19:08 GMT
#6343
Is there anyone who uses "TheCore"-hotkeys in SC2 in conjecture with StarBow? I'm having some issues finding new assignments for some units/spells etc. I use the TRL-set.
Sovietjedi
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3 Posts
April 01 2014 22:54 GMT
#6344
I am adopting this into my play as well as the complete book of Protoss bullshit that Liquid just released. I just picked back up SC WOL and have been working on improving myself. I was playing a lot of Terran and after I saw that I was like... well... time to switch races... I also am ALWAYS getting smashed by diamond and platinum players and I am sick of loosing to them and other high level gold players. So I started with the staircase and that really helped. But I think this can really improve my efficiency. My only problem I am having is that I am have never used camera locations. I did a test play and I was ok until I tried to assign my camera groups. How do you go about doing that?
Mankind will suffer until kings become philosophers and philosophers become kings.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
April 01 2014 23:41 GMT
#6345
@kalimann
Hey hey! Working on 1.1 right now (which will have Starbow compatibility). You shouldn't have much trouble keeping the 1.0 keys the same and just adding in the new stuff. If you have any specific questions, let me know

@Sovietjedi
I suggest this drill for learning camera keys:



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Sovietjedi
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3 Posts
April 02 2014 04:27 GMT
#6346
Thank you

I think your best advice for a person (who is playing 6-8 hours a day like me) is to make sure to get sleep and not just marathon. On that note gg and good night.
Mankind will suffer until kings become philosophers and philosophers become kings.
brook8128
Profile Joined August 2013
Korea (South)66 Posts
April 02 2014 15:29 GMT
#6347
I use the core(ZRM). My keyboard doesn't work multi-key.
shift+p : select queen
o : spawn larva
base camera : shift+'
When I inject larva, shift+p > stay shift > o'o'o'o'o'o'o'
If queens are fewer than hatcheries, queens are crossing the map.
What should I do?
OvO
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
April 02 2014 19:47 GMT
#6348
You're welcome Sovietjedi! Sleep, eat well, and exercise!!

@brook
are you trying to do the rapid fire inject, or the normal one?




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brook8128
Profile Joined August 2013
Korea (South)66 Posts
April 03 2014 01:29 GMT
#6349
@JaKaTaK
I already watched 5 times. I want to do the rapid fire inject, but my keyboard isn't compatable multi key. So I try not to inject hatcharies don't have queens. This way is slow.
OvO
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
April 03 2014 03:27 GMT
#6350
the key combo should be shift P O K click L click ; click (then let go of shift). Wandering queens will happen sometimes, to avoid you have to practice using your camera keys and only injecting where you can inject. (or get a thift store keyboard for $4 that can repeat keys)
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Nalincah
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany10 Posts
April 04 2014 19:27 GMT
#6351
Hi,

I'm using The Core now for a few month, but I have 2 Questions:
1) What hotkey do you recommend for a) the first overlord and b) the scout drone? Currently using "ü" for my overlord and "ä" for my drone
2) For my Rally/Creep Cam: Why not Ctrl+Shift for "Create" and Ctrl for "Jump to"?

Thanks
Nalincah
Pandemic21
Profile Joined June 2011
6 Posts
April 05 2014 01:00 GMT
#6352
So I've been experimenting with The Core (RZS) the past few days, but I have two main problems. First, if I move over to shift+enter to cycle through my towns to inject my hand never remembers where to go back to. Does practice solve this or is there some kind of magic I don't know? And secondly, is there a faster way to subtract units from control groups? For instance, I have a group of 20 lings, morph 8 into banelings. I can instantly add them to another control group, but because they were lings they're still in control group 1. Is there an easy way to solve this?
brook8128
Profile Joined August 2013
Korea (South)66 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-05 01:34:47
April 05 2014 01:34 GMT
#6353
@Pandemic21
OvO
Pandemic21
Profile Joined June 2011
6 Posts
April 05 2014 02:20 GMT
#6354
@brooks8128
Ah, interesting. I didn't notice that videos existed, I guess I should go check the youtube channel.

That's what I do on grid, but unfortunately The Core doesn't seem to have a "Set control group" hotkey, only "Add to control group" hotkey. Am I wrong? The visualizer doesn't come up with anything.
BjoernK
Profile Joined April 2012
194 Posts
April 05 2014 11:47 GMT
#6355
On April 05 2014 11:20 Pandemic21 wrote:
@brooks8128
Ah, interesting. I didn't notice that videos existed, I guess I should go check the youtube channel.

That's what I do on grid, but unfortunately The Core doesn't seem to have a "Set control group" hotkey, only "Add to control group" hotkey. Am I wrong? The visualizer doesn't come up with anything.


Nope: Ctrl + key - Add to control group
Ctrl + Shift + key - Create control group.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
April 05 2014 16:27 GMT
#6356
Set CG is actually called Create CG

@Nalincah
We're working on a new combo for creep cam that is more efficient. It will all be done with 1 modifier so no switching is necessary

I don't use your layout, but I put my scout on X and I don't hotkey my initial overlord... perhaps I should.
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FPyro
Profile Joined September 2013
Germany47 Posts
April 06 2014 11:51 GMT
#6357
Hello!

JaKaTaK, you said you were already working on the Core 1.1? Will there be big changes and what will they be about? I've just arrived at a point where I feel quite comfortable and it would be hard if a lot changed.
Also, is there an ETA? I'm really curious and can't wait for the new version somehow :D
thanks
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
April 06 2014 16:26 GMT
#6358
hey hey Pyro,

There will be large changes, especially to the Zerg layout (incorporating RF inject, reworking the creep cams). If you're a brave brave soul and you don't mind relearning go for 1.1. However I think it will be best for almost everyone on 1.0 to stick with it. Is 1.1 better? Yes. Is it worth having to relearn your hotkeys again? I would say no. Only the super enthusiasts will be switching over. Maybe that is you, maybe its not.

As far as ETA goes, I have no idea, but I'll try to keep this thread posted with updates. So far the Protoss Terran and Zerg Prototypes are sorted out. When I get the time I'll start on random (hopefully this week). I've been super busy with new projects in the works so it is a bit tricky.

Thanks as always for the support!
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FPyro
Profile Joined September 2013
Germany47 Posts
April 09 2014 16:47 GMT
#6359
Thanks for your response.

Of course I will relearn it if the latest version demands it! And you can't possibly have changed everything, I hope at least. I'm indeed playing Zerg, but don't use the creep cams as of yet since I'm not extremely focused on spreading it all the time, unless the map is really big and it's against Terrans.
If you say 1.1 is better, then it will be worth it eventually and since Starcraft isn't going anywhere anytime soon, I assume I'll have enough time to get used to it.

Can we get a look at the Prototype for Zerg? I'm really curious and would like to see it as soon as possible!

Your work is much appreciated, thank you!
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
April 09 2014 17:23 GMT
#6360
@FPyro

This page in the Archive

will give you the gist of it. Also This page where it says Zerg 1.1.

@Brotosses

Here it is, the long awaited video answer to the question "what do I put in which control group?"




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