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Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
February 24 2012 19:35 GMT
#21
I think as the game progresses, people will see benefits of having more control groups available for army (multi-prong stuff) and, as a result, will move away from having each hatch or each queen on a separate control group. The backspace method works well in this scenario, just always being aware of wandering queens, which is easily solved / avoided.
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
February 24 2012 20:38 GMT
#22
I used to play Zerg. Now that I play Terran, I use the "backspace" method (rebound on spacebar) for both mules and supply depots.
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AuxPriest
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada38 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 22:18:36
February 24 2012 21:22 GMT
#23
I have all of my queens set to the same hotkey. I also have all of my bases camera locations saved to F2, F3, F4, etc. I'll use my camera and check on bases a lot, so when I see a hatch not injected, or see the notification that larva have been birthed on the left, I select my queen hotkey and just check my bases and inject what is necessary. According to SC2Gears, my average inject gap is 6-10 seconds this way. This might not work for everyone, but it works for me. Experiment and see what works for you.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
February 24 2012 21:29 GMT
#24
I have all queens on the same hotkey and inject by clicking a hatchery's location on the minimap. This has the benefit of not needing to move the camera away from the action.
Siffer
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States467 Posts
February 24 2012 21:31 GMT
#25
I bound base camera to mouse button 4(side mouse button). Now I can just MB4 V, MB4 V, etc,
MugenXBanksy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States479 Posts
February 24 2012 21:45 GMT
#26
I don't always play zerg but when I do I use hatches on 1Hotkey 1 hotkey for queens and camera jumps rebound f1-f5 for base areas. The remaining 3 jump keys set to middle map areas when Injecting and engaging
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cltitran
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16 Posts
February 24 2012 23:41 GMT
#27
I've tried all the purposed methods. The trick that worked for me is binding all queens to one hotkey. All hatches to one hotkey. And use the camera saving (f1,f2,f3,f4) to swap between bases. This allows you to spam between your bases and constantly be aware of where you are macro wise. It'll develop habits for jumping quickly to marine drops and such as well. Sure this isnt the fastest method, but it's only maybe a second slower. But it is the most reliable (no queen confusion walking across the map). It also allows you to expand far away when you need to without worrying that u wont have screw up your queens. When you want to build drones from just one particular base you can jump to that base select it and make the drones. This saves you from having drones walking to secret expansions or armies popping out of secret expansions. You don't have to worry about lining up your injects with all your hatches. You go directly to the bases that need it or constantly cycle through camera to check your larva injects.

The best tip you need to know is that you don't need to inject all your bases late game. You just need to inject well off of 4-5 hatches to support a huge army. But injecting 4-5 bases doesn't entail 5 actual bases. Two of those can be macro hatches. So really it's f1,f2,f3 (3bases) that you have to scan through saving you a lot of time.

Practice it. You'll like screen hotkeys when you finally use it.
phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
February 25 2012 00:13 GMT
#28
I think most people tend to favor binding queens on 1 hotkey and using the backspace method for whatever key they bind it to. I like having my space bar binded to a camera hotkey, so I don't use it. If you're not using "w" or "e", i see nothing wrong with putting queens on "w" and the base camera hotkey on "e". it's closer to your fingers, and you get another hotkey essentially (since not many people actually use 890 on their default locations, you rebind one of these to "w")
Sacrilege
Profile Joined December 2011
United States199 Posts
February 25 2012 00:25 GMT
#29
I don't know how most Zerg choose to do their injects, but myself personally I bind my main to 3, natural to 4, third to six and every other hatch I leave unbound. I bind all my hatches together to 5 and lay my macro hatch either right near my main or natural. Personally, I always find my injects end and start in a order. I bind all my queens to 7 and spread them accordingly to each hatch, from there it's just a matter of selecting my hatches and hitting 7+V onto each hatch. Works well for me and I am usually always on top of my injects.
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lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
February 25 2012 00:38 GMT
#30
Learn to do it with the mini-map so you never have to change screens... a sc1 player that has not switched did this method, and afterwards I adopted it when I was still playing zerg.

And by that I mean hotkey all your queens to one key, and learn how to click on the hatcheries on the minimap in rapid-order , the queens never run around, move, etc, and if you're accurate, you always hit.

This saves you a lot of time and lets you focus on more important things (presumably creep spread/following mutalisks, etc)
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
Rectifyy
Profile Joined February 2012
New Zealand19 Posts
February 25 2012 04:24 GMT
#31
I changed my backspace to "q", and made control group 0 on the ` key, so all I do is press ` then v -> shift, then spam q click like a madman. Works like a charm
Of course, you could probably do it another way, I just find it easy for me. If you don't want to lose queens later on, you could go ` r, which would burrow your queens - nobody's going to scan for a queen, or possibly even think to. I hate losing queens myself :L
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