EPT[G] PvZ – FFE into 4 Gate +1 Zealot Pressure - Page 3
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iMpOsEr
Bosnia-Herzegovina15 Posts
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RRDjhonn
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xsnac
Barbados1365 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On February 09 2012 07:26 xsnac wrote: iv been reading tones of time " [G] PvZ HerOic FFE " and is still hard to understand is not very clear when to add gates and when to build zealots . im sorry but this is the best guide for ffe into 4gate +1 timing . ! you'd think the 10 replays in the op would have been able to clear that up. weird | ||
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CaptainHaz
United States240 Posts
On February 09 2012 07:49 Alejandrisha wrote: you'd think the 10 replays in the op would have been able to clear that up. weird Well it's not like YOU had a full blown STREAM TUTORIAL in your guide. Also the pictures in this one were prettier, maybe if you stopped spending all of your money on hats that you keep sending monk then maybe you could upgrade to a better PC and make better guides Mr low graphics settings. The more nicer the pictures in a guide the better it ends up being. Pretty picture make brain hurt less. Grunt. User was warned for this post | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On February 09 2012 07:49 Alejandrisha wrote: you'd think the 10 replays in the op would have been able to clear that up. weird LOL you think the average player watches the replays? They are looking for a thing to cut and paste into a build order overlay or to tape to their monitor. The see replays as proof that it works and don't even check them. Forgive my tone for I am not joking. I say this from experience coaching people for money. They will show me a thread about the build they are doing and then show me a replay of them doing ti and they just have obv never seen a pro level player doing said build. I would see things reactor hellion builds that had no wall off or a banshee rush taht made the bunker in the natural on map like xel naga. The other classic is people doing the build order to the T and then just attacking with everything as soon as the build order ends. I hope some people that are doing just that read my post and understand how much they are wasting thier time basically practicing a build WRONG when they JUST copy the 'build order.' I would say that was in the top 5 problems I saw in players that were actively trying to better themselves. Copying a BO from a guide without EVER seeing a vod or replay of it in action. | ||
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AGIANTSMURF
United States1232 Posts
On February 09 2012 07:49 Alejandrisha wrote: you'd think the 10 replays in the op would have been able to clear that up. weird I think the main thing here is that your guide goes over the openings as far as which style of FE to use in detail and in TEXT for people to read, you then skip over just about everything from ~40 supply - ~80 supply and you go straight into the general concepts and styles a player should be aiming for in the mid - late game your guide relies on the replays to cover the mid-sections and actual timings of when to build certain tech/gate structures and warp things in. this is probably because it all varies greatly on the zerg response and changes from game to game. this guide cover's a very specific timing and focuses on the actual pressure part of the build. I like to think of it as a "magnifying glass" focusing in on a crucial part of the early-mid game. obviously those who don't always have time to watch each replay or cant access SC2 at all while reading guides will favor this one as its straight forward and can directly applied in game (although perhaps not to maximum effect) where as yours cover's the entire PvZ early - late game as a whole and gives a broader look as to how to approach the matchup. bottom line If people are looking for a quick copy and paste as the kind gentlemen above posted, build that they can use to apply some early game pressure to zerg then do as they please, they can look at this guide. If they are looking to fine tune and try an entirely tried-tested and true style of pvz with a guide written and displayed from start to finish so that people can truly improve themselves, they will check out yours. I'm writing this from philosophy class so i may just have my head up my ass here :D | ||
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AGIANTSMURF
United States1232 Posts
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-VoidRay-
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
ANYWAYS, move along everyone, talk about the BUILD not the guide as I love reading back and forth about strats! | ||
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CrazyF1r3f0x
United States2120 Posts
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Tazerenix
Australia340 Posts
On February 09 2012 15:38 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote: I've seen on hero's stream he gets stalkers instead of zealots when facing a Zerg with a late gasm it seems pretty effective bc stalkers are fairly efficient against slow lings when micro'd Zealots are better against lings in every circumstance, it is most likely because a late gas can be telling of a zerg planning to go into roaches, which stalkers are better against. | ||
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Swap
Sweden144 Posts
Im still more into doing voidray + zealot pressure. Often with 2-3 voidrays + 2-3 warpins of zealot following up if I feel that the zerg cant handle my pressure that good. These days they usually follow up with 2-3 base roach + hydra pressure, so I tend to tech to templars (good against mutas too) and can usually secure a quite early third. | ||
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Belha
Italy2850 Posts
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Belerafon
Ukraine3 Posts
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RRDjhonn
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Belerafon
Ukraine3 Posts
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-Cyrus-
United States318 Posts
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