EPT[G] ZvP Dual Gold Base vs Forge FE - Page 4
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Tal0n
United States175 Posts
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eeizbee
Canada19 Posts
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Trusty
New Zealand520 Posts
On January 11 2012 06:59 Theovide wrote: If this build is actually good I'm flabbergasted. Seems super cool though, it's kind of like the cc float to the gold for terrans. Except it doesn't lose if scouted | ||
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Marooned
Norway161 Posts
Was just waiting for something like this before I made a comment.. And to a previous poster Im not gonna name; yeah it is kinda cute that half of the guys commenting here are Norwegians. Maybe the reason they seemed rude to you might have something to do about the way you articulated yourself. The OP did a better work with this guide then 95% of other guides in this forum, so why complain. I agree that it lacked replays, and its not the BEST guide out there content wise, but still. I kinda like guides that explaines a strategy that the OP has come up with himself, not just guides that explains a buildorder from the GSL. Not everything has to be viable at your level of play to be posted here I hope. GJ Snute! Hope you'll add some more replays. Interesting strat  | ||
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Minus151
United States16 Posts
On January 11 2012 09:13 Marooned wrote: Was just waiting for something like this before I made a comment.. And to a previous poster Im not gonna name; yeah it is kinda cute that half of the guys commenting here are Norwegians. Maybe the reason they seemed rude to you might have something to do about the way you articulated yourself. The OP did a better work with this guide then 95% of other guides in this forum, so why complain. I agree that it lacked replays, and its not the BEST guide out there content wise, but still. I kinda like guides that explaines a strategy that the OP has come up with himself, not just guides that explains a buildorder from the GSL. Not everything has to be viable at your level of play to be posted here I hope. GJ Snute! Hope you'll add some more replays. Interesting strat Do you actually have any idea who Monk is? Take a look at his post history and realize that he consistently writes some of the best guides on TL. His guides should be a benchmark as to how a guide should truly be written. To comment on the build in question : How does this deal against FFE into Stargate play? It seems as though it would be impossible to get creep between your bases in time to defend them all with queens. Something like a +1 Zealot/Voidray pressure would also do quite well against this, I feel. Are there any replays of Toss doing this in response to the build? | ||
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Marooned
Norway161 Posts
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Liquid`Snute
Norway839 Posts
I'm sorry but I don't think I will write any more guides because the standard is too high, it simply takes too many hours for me if I'm going to make every single one into a mini thesis. | ||
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oOOoOphidian
United States1402 Posts
On January 11 2012 17:42 Snute wrote: Hmm actually you should just skip the second gold base. Having one to bust with is enough. Zerg OP xD I'm sorry but I don't think I will write any more guides because the standard is too high, it simply takes too many hours for me if I'm going to make every single one into a mini thesis. Maybe post it as a discussion thread instead so there won't be so much whining or mod action. Definitely a cool idea, I have tried this a few times with a high queen count. Not so confident in taking the other gold base, but I haven't tested that myself either. | ||
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InfusedTT.DaZe
Romania693 Posts
also check ReaL vs Snute from the iem qualifier to see some 1 sided slaughter | ||
monk
United States8476 Posts
On January 11 2012 09:13 Marooned wrote: Was just waiting for something like this before I made a comment.. And to a previous poster Im not gonna name; yeah it is kinda cute that half of the guys commenting here are Norwegians. Maybe the reason they seemed rude to you might have something to do about the way you articulated yourself. The OP did a better work with this guide then 95% of other guides in this forum, so why complain. I agree that it lacked replays, and its not the BEST guide out there content wise, but still. I kinda like guides that explaines a strategy that the OP has come up with himself, not just guides that explains a buildorder from the GSL. Not everything has to be viable at your level of play to be posted here I hope. GJ Snute! Hope you'll add some more replays. Interesting strat True, I could have used a better tone but tbh this is just how I post on these forums. My style is concise and succinct, but many people interpret it as rude. If you read my posts with that tone in mind, you'll see I was just giving suggestions to the guide and not really maliciously criticizing it. And the reason I actually tried to give suggestions was that the guide seemed like it could be promising but fell into common pitfalls of guidewriting on TL. Plus Snute himself has been pretty cool about it. Also, don't see why you can't say my name; seems weird. | ||
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Trowa127
United Kingdom1230 Posts
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Cocoba
Canada352 Posts
Also the sentry warp prism thing can wreck because your army is so split. For the protoss to be able to kill the main and all the tech, they will be pretty far ahead. | ||
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pintipanda
Turkey22 Posts
let me say, baneling bust like a boss and a clear win. ps. Snute, you should really keep writing this strategies when you have time. | ||
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HickleStine
Australia276 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Anyway what i found out as toss works pretty nice is to fake an forge expand into tricking them to get the gold and do a +1 3 gate timing. If they don't go for the gold blindly and lose the game, you can still expand. Its not as greedy as before but the zerg can't drone like cazy or stay +0 lings only and get the 3rd fast. But you are a bit weaker against aggression, but its easier to scout it coming and its holdable. | ||
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NydusHerMain
Canada492 Posts
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Liquid`Snute
Norway839 Posts
On January 20 2012 22:36 pintipanda wrote: just saw this tactic executed by Targa against Hasuobs in IEM Kiev 2012 (on Antiga Shipyard) let me say, baneling bust like a boss and a clear win. ps. Snute, you should really keep writing this strategies when you have time. Hi yes, this thread is kind of obselete now since the 1 gold base baneling bust is completely unstoppable. I will write a guide for that one, so everyone will start doing it (as if they aren't already lol). I hope Blizzard removes gold bases. Protoss players must stop FFEing on Antiga and Meta, too. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
What do you think of going double gold into just standard, safe, macro play? What do you lose to? Imo metal is imbalanced in zerg favor (antiga too) because zerg just takes gold third vs ffe, and just wins with huge econ that toss can't possibly stop. Never thought of taking both golds though! | ||
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