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[G] TvZ: Double reactor w/ great transition - Page 2

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saaaa
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany419 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 07:08:43
October 06 2011 06:34 GMT
#21

very interesting build order i will try this =)
Cibron
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden253 Posts
October 06 2011 06:59 GMT
#22
I wanted to do this so bad yesterday but played 7 terrans in a row instead -__-

Why 3 marines? Wouldn't a single marine + bunker be better since you can expo at 19 and then add bunker after? Or does that miss the 5RR timing?
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Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
October 06 2011 15:46 GMT
#23
that's a pretty sweet build thanks
SlipperyPeteLoL
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada36 Posts
October 06 2011 20:48 GMT
#24
On October 06 2011 15:59 Cibron wrote:
I wanted to do this so bad yesterday but played 7 terrans in a row instead -__-

Why 3 marines? Wouldn't a single marine + bunker be better since you can expo at 19 and then add bunker after? Or does that miss the 5RR timing?


You are making marines so that you can eventually attack with them. If you don't build those 2 marines then, you will never have the opportunity to make them.
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Zombo Joe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada850 Posts
October 06 2011 21:55 GMT
#25
I'm pretty sure the naked 111 slayers style drop is much better.

You attack much earlier, you expand much earlier and you can transition much better. There is no timing window for both a baneling bust or roach bust since you never stop producing and you can get your starport much faster and use it as part of the wall if need be.

This feels more allin because it comes so much later, if you don't do damage, Zerg's econ will be too good and your next push will get crushed hard.
I am Terranfying.
WickedSkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Netherlands81 Posts
October 06 2011 22:22 GMT
#26

What is the difference between this build and the so called Slayers build, where you have 4 hellions and 8 marines elevator push on zerg base while expanding behind that?
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Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
October 06 2011 22:43 GMT
#27
On October 07 2011 07:22 WickedSkies wrote:

What is the difference between this build and the so called Slayers build, where you have 4 hellions and 8 marines elevator push on zerg base while expanding behind that?

Slayers makes great use of the blue flame (before the nerf). This is also followed by a banshee..
Jaedong.
Afk
Profile Joined May 2011
United States29 Posts
October 06 2011 22:55 GMT
#28
I was watching Thorzain do this and Ret proved the soviet theory that if you have more drones then they have bullets, you can't go wrong
Kernen
Profile Joined July 2011
United States84 Posts
October 07 2011 19:56 GMT
#29
Thanks for posting. I like this alot more than the slayers blueflame drop build.
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MasonosaM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States74 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 21:00:42
October 07 2011 20:40 GMT
#30
nvm, saw answer on first page
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s00pr
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden94 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 23:35:12
October 09 2011 23:08 GMT
#31
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Double_reactor_with_great_transition_(vs._Zerg)
Started to add it to Liquipedia guys! How does it look so far?

On October 06 2011 04:15 Waah wrote:
Looks solid, will try out and give some feedback later tonight.

Edit: Worked okay in all the TvZs played today but I'm a bit shaky with the execution and the transition, so lost more games than I should have.

Yeah the part where you micro your units and add your buildings, switching addons and move out with your cc is so hard. Really shows you need great multitasking to get ahead. Just stick to it and practice the transition, micro as little as possible yet still be as efficient as possible with ur drop.
Emperor_Earth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States824 Posts
October 10 2011 01:35 GMT
#32
On October 10 2011 08:08 s00pr wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Double_reactor_with_great_transition_(vs._Zerg)
Started to add it to Liquipedia guys! How does it look so far?

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On October 06 2011 04:15 Waah wrote:
Looks solid, will try out and give some feedback later tonight.

Edit: Worked okay in all the TvZs played today but I'm a bit shaky with the execution and the transition, so lost more games than I should have.

Yeah the part where you micro your units and add your buildings, switching addons and move out with your cc is so hard. Really shows you need great multitasking to get ahead. Just stick to it and practice the transition, micro as little as possible yet still be as efficient as possible with ur drop.


Please continue. I will be watching both the thread and the wiki page quite a bit. I'm assuming you just double bunker if you suspect roach reaction?
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s00pr
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden94 Posts
October 10 2011 08:19 GMT
#33
On October 10 2011 10:35 Emperor_Earth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 08:08 s00pr wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Double_reactor_with_great_transition_(vs._Zerg)
Started to add it to Liquipedia guys! How does it look so far?

On October 06 2011 04:15 Waah wrote:
Looks solid, will try out and give some feedback later tonight.

Edit: Worked okay in all the TvZs played today but I'm a bit shaky with the execution and the transition, so lost more games than I should have.

Yeah the part where you micro your units and add your buildings, switching addons and move out with your cc is so hard. Really shows you need great multitasking to get ahead. Just stick to it and practice the transition, micro as little as possible yet still be as efficient as possible with ur drop.


Please continue. I will be watching both the thread and the wiki page quite a bit. I'm assuming you just double bunker if you suspect roach reaction?

Yeah for sure, also if you feel you can get a tank out in time aswell I feel that usually helps me, but I dont get roach rushed that much.
s00pr
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden94 Posts
October 12 2011 10:34 GMT
#34
It has now been Approved on Liquipedia Terran Matchup vs Zerg:
Double Reactor!
Check it out guys :-)
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Terran_Strategy
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Double_reactor_(vs._Zerg)
Kelwyn
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany143 Posts
October 23 2011 13:41 GMT
#35
Hiya, first of all thanks for the good guide and adding it to LP! Just a question in regards to possible cons, if i recall correctly, FXOLucky hardcountered this against MMA by a very strong Roach/Ling push off 2 bases, can the double reactor build hold against this or is this a hard counter?
s00pr
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden94 Posts
October 24 2011 11:44 GMT
#36
On October 23 2011 22:41 Kelwyn wrote:
Hiya, first of all thanks for the good guide and adding it to LP! Just a question in regards to possible cons, if i recall correctly, FXOLucky hardcountered this against MMA by a very strong Roach/Ling push off 2 bases, can the double reactor build hold against this or is this a hard counter?

For me if he has many roaches when I try to drop it gets stopped usually while also queen focus the medivac, either fall back or try go around to his natural with only hellions to take off some drones, but if you mean an attack that hits before the drop I have held of those with just the marines and extra aoe from hellions, also whenever the medivac comes out you also get healing :-) If someone seen something else please provide :D I wonder if FXOLucky did the hardcounter cause he was thinking reactor hellion? But surprise also got many marines ^^ If everything with the transition went well, you can hold off pretty much any roach aggression later on 9-11 min with your tanks and possible bunkers.
nOondn
Profile Joined March 2011
564 Posts
October 24 2011 15:04 GMT
#37
very solid build ,love it
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