• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:15
CEST 23:15
KST 06:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash2[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy9ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool48Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
Pros React To: SoulKey vs Ample ASL21 General Discussion [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site KK Platform will provide 1 million CNY
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group C [ASL21] Ro24 Group D [ASL21] Ro24 Group B
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Darkest Dungeon Path of Exile
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1106 users

[G] (T) 3 racks : Cheesing your way to GM league - Page 65

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 63 64 65 66 67 69 Next
Dephy
Profile Joined January 2011
Lithuania163 Posts
November 11 2011 07:42 GMT
#1281
This build only works agains toss, and terrans that dont wall of.
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
November 11 2011 10:02 GMT
#1282
On November 11 2011 06:34 Nyter wrote:
This build is figured out now, just go TLO's 7 rax vs toss win 99% of ur games. masters EU

how exactly do your marines jump over forcefields?
bLah.
Profile Joined July 2009
Croatia497 Posts
November 11 2011 11:08 GMT
#1283
These things don't work against toss. If toss scouts this he will just chronoboost stalkers, and he'll have zealot+2 stalkers +2 in making when you come at him. Then toss only needs to let you into his base and surround with probes and stalkers.

7rax is even worse because force fields destroy it.


BUT this build suddenly got better against terran because it destroys reaper builds
Kng
Profile Joined November 2011
2 Posts
November 15 2011 04:01 GMT
#1284
Here are 2 replays of me. I am a NA Top 80 GM Tos.

HOW TO DO 3RAX: http://drop.sc/59322

TOS DEFENSE VS 3 RAX: http://drop.sc/59323
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 05:23:29
November 15 2011 05:13 GMT
#1285
On November 08 2011 20:32 Geiko wrote:
I know right ? Terran is so fun to play.

Last time I faced latedi on the ladder (high master protoss, he posts a lot in the strat forum) while I was 3 raxing people. He obviously knew the strat so I walled off bottom to make it look like the 3 rax all-in and went 1 rax FE. I then proceeded to just make random terran units and buildings and won the game because I had such an econ lead (he went like 3 gate expand to be safe vs the all-in).


I laughed so hard when I read this. You "proceeded to make random Terran units and buildings and won the game..."

Today I accidentally selected Terran vs a masters Zerg so I built 3 factories, put a reactor on one and massed Hellions. Then just did a big all-in with SCV's, Hellions and few Marines and my opponent quit as soon as he saw my units reach his creep. I also laughed hard when this happened.

Your cheese might be silly, but I've lost to it, and sadly I read this thread long before I Iost to it, and knew it was coming. For me this is about as hard to stop as a 1-1-1, unless I blind counter it when I see the supply depot drop, which means I would lose if they end up 1 Rax FE.
freetgy
Profile Joined November 2010
1720 Posts
November 15 2011 06:57 GMT
#1286
On November 15 2011 13:01 Kng wrote:
Here are 2 replays of me. I am a NA Top 80 GM Tos.

TOS DEFENSE VS 3 RAX: http://drop.sc/59323


thats not geikos build
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 10:52:44
December 12 2011 10:49 GMT
#1287
bump cause Mvp did it in GSL :D


with P playing things like Nexus first its even more viable than it was earlier :D
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
totalpigeon
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom162 Posts
December 12 2011 11:36 GMT
#1288
It's probably still defendable with a Nexus first. I don't think you can save the Nexus, and you still have to scout it or you will just die, so P who probe to 15, nexus and then scout on the equivalent of a 2 player map are screwed, but they are going for what many would consider eco cheese so I guess it's fair to expect that to happen. Nexus first with an early tipoff should be able to survive, but with the delay on tech it'll probably need cannons, up the ramp, and probes ready to defend them. Maybe a complete walloff to delay the scvs getting up the ramp could work, with the way fast expands are common these days and tanks in tvp uncommon it's much less of a liability against terran pushes to have something ready for this situation. I imagine saving the expansion Nexus will be basically impossible, but if you can avoid dying or being overly crippled you'll still probably be ahead.
DelugeSC
Profile Joined December 2011
United States96 Posts
December 12 2011 12:24 GMT
#1289
I've played around with this strategy but often can't wall-off the bottom of my ramp with the barrack and supply depot. Is this impossible on some maps or am I just silly.
ke_ivan
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore374 Posts
December 12 2011 12:29 GMT
#1290
BIT_BY_BIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
angiepolska
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium13 Posts
December 12 2011 13:26 GMT
#1291
Gotta love the love u get after winning with this in plat league.. Even when people scout it they lose to it really hard lol.. thanks for making my day good sir!
Sickest baneling bang ever
Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
December 12 2011 17:51 GMT
#1292
tbh hero reacted bad, he didnt count worker, if hed have a good day he would have known that theres some cheese coming, (at least 2 rax). had a bad day. so when he gets denied scouting afterwards and he count worker he would have spotted the area where terrans lift their rax over from their mainbase (so they dont have to walk down the choke and save time). like this the protoss just died. thats what happens when u cant work with the information u gather
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
December 12 2011 17:56 GMT
#1293
On December 12 2011 19:49 Zeon0 wrote:
bump cause Mvp did it in GSL :D


with P playing things like Nexus first its even more viable than it was earlier :D


It was a perfect build against 15 nexus :D
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
December 12 2011 18:05 GMT
#1294
lol gm mmr player here and this build will not get you far at all. I'd say this would work in low master and below where players generally don't scout or prepare well based on what they scout.

Now that it's been on TL for many months, it's known by all good players.

In TvT this is a TERRIBLE idea and you will lose every game against a decent player.
In TvZ this is a TERRIBLE idea and you will lose even if it's not scouted with good drone and ling micro
In TvP this is a SOMEWHAT TERRIBLE idea and you will most likely lose since Toss will get at least 1 stalker and chrono 2 sentries after scouting your idea with the stalker
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
krooked
Profile Joined May 2011
376 Posts
December 12 2011 18:38 GMT
#1295

Blizzard Cup Spoiler
+ Show Spoiler +
LiquidHero just lost to it against IMMVP in blizzard cup earlier today, so nope obv not that terrible
freetgy
Profile Joined November 2010
1720 Posts
December 12 2011 18:43 GMT
#1296
On December 13 2011 03:05 zmansman17 wrote:
lol gm mmr player here and this build will not get you far at all. I'd say this would work in low master and below where players generally don't scout or prepare well based on what they scout.

Now that it's been on TL for many months, it's known by all good players.

In TvT this is a TERRIBLE idea and you will lose every game against a decent player.
In TvZ this is a TERRIBLE idea and you will lose even if it's not scouted with good drone and ling micro
In TvP this is a SOMEWHAT TERRIBLE idea and you will most likely lose since Toss will get at least 1 stalker and chrono 2 sentries after scouting your idea with the stalker


this build hit before more than 2 units are on the field.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
December 12 2011 18:52 GMT
#1297
Imo, this build is only viable in TvP and not that strong even. 2-3 stalkers can kite pretty much all day and the rush should be held quite easily. The only reason Hero lost to it is the Nexus first. If he had just played a safe 1-gate FE, everything would've been fine - but lately protosses seem to be super greedy.
Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
December 12 2011 22:18 GMT
#1298
"save 1 gate expand" ^^
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
AA.spoon
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium331 Posts
December 13 2011 19:54 GMT
#1299
OMFG! I am gm toss on eu and I just lost to a diamond in tournament who used this strat. Can't explain how much this saddens me
RhapsodyZ
Profile Joined November 2011
Turkey12 Posts
December 13 2011 20:06 GMT
#1300
On November 08 2011 15:53 Dilaram wrote:
In the replay versus Mondragon (http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=download&id=209294), at the end of game we see in your vision an extractor in fog of war (aera never scouted), and you A-click move on it without scout. WTF ?!
Map hack ? :-/

When someone has no bases, his all buildings reveals.
Rainbow Trolol!
Prev 1 63 64 65 66 67 69 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
19:00
S22 - Open Qualifier #4
ZZZero.O134
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 579
elazer 246
Ketroc 50
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 14712
ZZZero.O 134
NaDa 12
Bale 9
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0316
Other Games
summit1g6100
Grubby5127
Liquid`RaSZi1738
B2W.Neo1634
fl0m801
Mew2King67
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH174
• musti20045 23
• davetesta17
• Reevou 9
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 42
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2102
• Noizen50
Counter-Strike
• Scarra515
Other Games
• imaqtpie1551
• Shiphtur130
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 45m
Replay Cast
11h 45m
Afreeca Starleague
12h 45m
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
13h 45m
Monday Night Weeklies
18h 45m
OSC
1d 2h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 12h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 12h
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-27
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Proleague 2026-03-29
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
Escore Tournament S2: W1
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.