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Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 11 2011 14:12 GMT
#61
On May 11 2011 20:39 Jerokar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 09:58 Maliris wrote:
i just do shift stop -> shift spam F...


Its UNBELIEVABLE how many people dont understand how shift commands work... You must have lost many games by not being able to throw down any forcefields

As i stated before, shift commands will not work when throwing down forcefields when your sentries are in combat

I guess i will have to edit this into the OP...


its UNBELIEVABLE how slow you must be to fail at this. I have NEVER failed doing this.
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
Jerokar
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Denmark83 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 15:38:49
May 11 2011 15:34 GMT
#62
On May 11 2011 23:12 Maliris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 20:39 Jerokar wrote:
On May 11 2011 09:58 Maliris wrote:
i just do shift stop -> shift spam F...


Its UNBELIEVABLE how many people dont understand how shift commands work... You must have lost many games by not being able to throw down any forcefields

As i stated before, shift commands will not work when throwing down forcefields when your sentries are in combat

I guess i will have to edit this into the OP...


its UNBELIEVABLE how slow you must be to fail at this. I have NEVER failed doing this.


It has nothing to do with being slow. It has nothing to to with failing or not failing.

It has something to do with how a shift command works. If you press shift-S to try to get your sentries to stop firing and cast forcefields, THEY WILL NOT STOP ATTACKING since the shift command makes them do it AFTER THEY FINISH ATTACKING

Not´to sound too offensive, but please do not pretend to be able to do things that the game mechanics do not allow unless you have solid proof that it somehow magically works
"More gg, More skill." -WhiteRa
Argus92
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands93 Posts
May 11 2011 15:36 GMT
#63
Very nice tip, I haven't tried that before while being in Master. I guess it's everyone their own, but if it decreasing FF casting time, it's always very important.

OgsMC usually practices his FF before matches, he told in an interview. It's one of the things which makes him so sharp and strong.
ZoneofEnders
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada71 Posts
May 11 2011 18:20 GMT
#64
Sometimes when I try to feedback really fast this happens too, I end up selecting a medivac, I am pumped to try this out : )
SelectStaR
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom129 Posts
May 11 2011 18:32 GMT
#65
On May 12 2011 00:34 Jerokar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 23:12 Maliris wrote:
On May 11 2011 20:39 Jerokar wrote:
On May 11 2011 09:58 Maliris wrote:
i just do shift stop -> shift spam F...


Its UNBELIEVABLE how many people dont understand how shift commands work... You must have lost many games by not being able to throw down any forcefields

As i stated before, shift commands will not work when throwing down forcefields when your sentries are in combat

I guess i will have to edit this into the OP...


its UNBELIEVABLE how slow you must be to fail at this. I have NEVER failed doing this.


It has nothing to do with being slow. It has nothing to to with failing or not failing.

It has something to do with how a shift command works. If you press shift-S to try to get your sentries to stop firing and cast forcefields, THEY WILL NOT STOP ATTACKING since the shift command makes them do it AFTER THEY FINISH ATTACKING

Not´to sound too offensive, but please do not pretend to be able to do things that the game mechanics do not allow unless you have solid proof that it somehow magically works



Jerokar is 100% CORRECT!!!! please listen to him
Lead By Example
Jerokar
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Denmark83 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 05:56:40
May 14 2011 05:56 GMT
#66
An article on this topic is now up on http://sc2tips.blogspot.com/2011/05/force-field-delay-when-holding-down-f.html.

Thank you to whoever took the effort to share this information. Spread the knowledge!
"More gg, More skill." -WhiteRa
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
May 14 2011 06:46 GMT
#67
Thanks Jerokar for the tips. Good job in the find. Its always good when someone discovers something new.

Cheers.
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hoax0000
Profile Joined May 2011
United States26 Posts
May 14 2011 06:51 GMT
#68
Pressing and hold the F key (or E for EMP etc) is more efficient and precise than just f click f click, in fact you can actually get out about twice as many FF or EMP in the same about of time just by holding.
#hoaxstarcraft
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
May 14 2011 07:00 GMT
#69
I think its up to the player's preference. I am more used to f click f click. Im using z click z click even for warping ins. I'm not too sure what MC is using. Any1?
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
May 14 2011 07:57 GMT
#70
1. select sentries
2. move command your sentries slightly - long enough to allow you to queue your desired forcefields
3. hold shift + F click

= sentries move then stop and drop forcefields instantly


sometimes it's not worth it though, because being able to see the effect of each forcefield is beneficial for placing the subsequent FF's.
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
May 14 2011 08:13 GMT
#71
so I'm guessing with EMP I can just hold E and click click click ?
Jerokar
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Denmark83 Posts
May 14 2011 16:57 GMT
#72
On May 14 2011 17:13 ShooTouts wrote:
so I'm guessing with EMP I can just hold E and click click click ?

As i sayd in the VERY FIRST sentence of my post, yes, this also applies to EMP and snipe
"More gg, More skill." -WhiteRa
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
May 14 2011 18:08 GMT
#73
wouldn't this make lings or marines queue faster? you could select your barracks and hold down the marine key to queue them up slightly faster.
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13427 Posts
May 14 2011 18:28 GMT
#74
On May 15 2011 03:08 Terranist wrote:
wouldn't this make lings or marines queue faster? you could select your barracks and hold down the marine key to queue them up slightly faster.


It would but you dont want to queue marines and with lings its quick enough that the game wont really know the difference but I can see the application for Zerg players
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Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
May 14 2011 18:37 GMT
#75
This made me realize what I was doing wrong. Thanks!
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Bao
Profile Joined February 2011
United States89 Posts
May 14 2011 18:51 GMT
#76
thank you SO much for this

for some reason my computer was set to 2/4 and after swapping it to 4/4 i can finally hold down F instead of F-click F-click
loadme
Profile Joined April 2010
171 Posts
May 27 2011 17:37 GMT
#77
thx, good find.
i lost some games with fungal growth the same way like you describe it here with FF
Yes.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
May 27 2011 17:55 GMT
#78
This defiantly makes holding down the keys more useful.
I never hold down the keys tho :S habit

On May 14 2011 15:51 hoax0000 wrote:
Pressing and hold the F key (or E for EMP etc) is more efficient and precise than just f click f click, in fact you can actually get out about twice as many FF or EMP in the same about of time just by holding.


Erm not to sure about this. I f-click f-click out of habit purely as holding it with this decreased delay will obviously be pressing f FASTER but how can you say its more precise?
I also feel like the time it takes to press f is about the time it takes to move my mouse over 6 squares and i feel more accurate because i find it a little easier to keep track of them and press for each one. Don't want too much overlap u know.

errbody should know shift clicking doesn't work when the sentries are engaged.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
IIIOmegaIII
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden319 Posts
May 27 2011 19:07 GMT
#79
good point, although it has been out for a while. shift clicks are usefull but they can easly be overused in which case it could be a bad thing.
HairyProboscis
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada63 Posts
May 27 2011 20:29 GMT
#80
On May 10 2011 14:02 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
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Someone didn't read the entire post.


Thanks OP this has proven quite useful!


Someone underestimated the amount of times this information has been shared.

But once again, thanks for sharing.


If you read the post that I quoted you would notice how it was worded clearly implied that he has been using "hold F click click click". Not changing windows settings to reduce the delay after an initial key press.

Thanks for trying though.
Putting the sensual into non-consensual.
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