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zhengsta
United States126 Posts
I'm wondering if any one actually gets this upgrade. I personally have never found a legitimate use for it, but in theory it could be good against muta harass. Is this the upgrade that changes your bunker look or is that neo steel frame? It always seems that only noobs get that upgrade in team matches. I've never actually seen anyone use it in 1v1 diamond. User was warned for this post | ||
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rogzardo
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Mwentworth56
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puissance
97 Posts
I research it in the lategame after Turret Range. I wonder about the Bunker Slot upgrade though, dont see any use.. | ||
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Exactable
Australia263 Posts
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NostalgiaTag
Canada508 Posts
Note: you may want to read over the purge sticky thread before posting threads with out replays or additional information. You may end up closed or even banned from the forum. | ||
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
 TvZ is the only time I get it. | ||
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ZeGzoR
Sweden307 Posts
Mod Edit: No it doesn't. | ||
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Unwardil
Canada188 Posts
On April 10 2011 03:13 ZeGzoR wrote: Get it late game vs zerg, helps against a click banes on your expos. Totally this. It takes FOREVER for zerglings to kill buildings with armor and combine that with scv repair, it will give you critical seconds for reinforcements to arrive. Generally I get this upgrade once my bio upgrades are at 3/3 on the basis of, 'why not'. It's late game, my macro isn't perfect, it's not like I'm going to miss that 150/150 when I'm on 4 bases. | ||
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EmilA
Denmark4618 Posts
Just to get one thing straight for the above posters: Banelings do 80 damage to buildings that is not reduced by armor. I have tested this and it should be obvious as 5 blings take down a depot. Baneling building damage isn't boosted by upgrades nor is it reduced by armor, therefor it will not help. | ||
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Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
I also briefly tried out this invincibility tvz inspired from some bw game I watched a long time ago where I slowly max with upgraded mech and build a shitload of turrets so I cant be hit by mutas or nothing. The zerg gets ridiculous economy but the goal was to get such a strong army that it cant be killed by infinite anything. But I didnt play around with that too much, it didnt seem particularly viable. | ||
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Unwardil
Canada188 Posts
On April 10 2011 03:59 EmilA wrote: Who the hell fires zerglings at planetaries anyways? Yes, it a +2 armor PF can take down 200+ l0/0 lings as opposed to ~50 if it's being swarmed, but when does this happen anyway? Just to get one thing straight for the above posters: Banelings do 80 damage to buildings that is not reduced by armor. I have tested this and it should be obvious as 5 blings take down a depot. Baneling building damage isn't boosted by upgrades nor is it reduced by armor, therefor it will not help. I wasn't talking about p-forts, I was talking about those ever annoying zergling run-bys. A barracks with armor can last a good 25% longer with the armor which gives your troops more time to either spawn or just get back to save your base. Also, it reduces damage from broodlings on planetary forts and missile turrets, letting you keep them alive with only a few scvs, again, to allow your army time to reinforce. | ||
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Spreek
United States47 Posts
On April 10 2011 03:13 ZeGzoR wrote: Get it late game vs zerg, helps against a click banes on your expos. Actually, I believe banelings ignore building armor against buildings, doing 80 damage no matter what. | ||
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pandaminion
United States270 Posts
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Mashes
Canada441 Posts
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
Not to mention 5 armor PFs is a lot more scary than a 3 armor. If someone in TvT is playing heavy bio and drops a lot, I get range and armor then too, usually. Just so my PFs out range more than they think, and I can react a bit slower vs a 8/16 marine drop and not lose like my entire base. | ||
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Nomadic
United Kingdom312 Posts
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The.Doctor
Canada333 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Kibibit
United States1551 Posts
On April 10 2011 04:48 Spreek wrote: Actually, I believe banelings ignore building armor against buildings, doing 80 damage no matter what. They don't ignore it so much as it's not a big deal at all. If a unit has 6 armor, i.e. what an Ultralisk has, that takes away 6 damage per hit. For a Zergling, that's massive, dropping them to 1 unupgraded and 2 with max upgrades. For a Baneling, It was tuesday. (it drops it to 74 damage, not as big of a drop off for them) | ||
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azn_dude1
162 Posts
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CatNzHat
United States1599 Posts
I'll normally have my e-bay sitting around for a bit doing nothing if I'm going for a mech focused build (2 fact blue flame expo into 3 fact thor tank into a third with thor tank hellion production) Turret range is the first upgrade I get, and then building armor is the second, it really helps when you're using an immobile army, and makes PFs 10x stronger vs zerglings (the number of SCVs needed to repair to keep it alive is greatly reduced.) Turret range messes with the zerg's muta micro, as they're not used to microing vs that extra range on the turrets, and the armor makes it so that late game you can hold off tons more mutas with scvs repairing turrets. (non-upgraded mutas vs non-upgraded turrets with repair, the turrets can hold off ~14 mutas and not die) With the armor upgrade I believe that number goes up to somewhere around 21 mutas, don't' quote me on that though. As far as the extra bunker slots upgrade goes... Well I personally find myself using that a lot more vs zerg late game if I'm going biomech. Infestors with the buff are now super powerful vs bio, so you need to slowly bunker push along with your tanks and turrets. If you've got bunkers set up cutting the map in half it will severly limit the counter attack opportunities of zerg (e.g. close air on metal, push on the lane near your bases, bunker off the far lane) | ||
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Saracen
United States5139 Posts
Also, resolved. | ||
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