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On May 02 2011 04:09 Apoo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2011 11:11 Saracen wrote:
[*]If your post pisses me off or is just inappropriate, you will be BANNED.
I see a raging Mod, but i missed the /ragequit. Whats so wrong with the Strategy Forum ?
I'll give you some examples:
- [p] 3 cybernatics cors - vible?
(the guy is in bronze and does a 1 gate, 3 cyber to get +1/+1 air weapons and hallucinate, then uses hallucinated pheonixes to try and convince his protoss opponent that he opened stargate).
- how did i los this (pvZ)?
(after watching a 3 hour replay, you notice that he never built more than 3 harvesters, and that his "dark templar + VR + warp prism opening with +2 shields" had no units until 45 minutes in)
- zerg is so OP!
(some guy saying something silly that no one has ever thought was OP, like corruptors, are completely OP because they beat him at silver every time).
Honestly, topics like that wouldn't have been out of place in the pre-purge Strategy forum.
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My major problem with the strategy forum is that people ask the same shit day after day after day. I wish we had copy paste some template about Macro/Micro + close to anyone who isn't atleast in diamond. I think people like that should just be auto banned from the strategy forum and redirected to this thread every time they try to click "create new thread" or "post reply"
Hell, I even got demoted to Platinum in season 2 because I knew my macro and micro were shit. I hate that many other people that say "#1 in my bronze/silver/gold/platinum division" come into TL Strategy forum and act oblivious to all their shortcomings.
Anyway, I'm glad this purge is happening and I hope the strategy forum will blossom into actual discussion and a plethora of solid guides.
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Ooo and people told me i was wrong that forums shouldnt be high level. WHAT NOW BIATCHES!
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On April 08 2011 11:11 Saracen wrote:For those of you posting [Q] threads:- If I can find the answer to your thread using the search function, you will be BANNED.
- If I can answer your thread in a few sentences, you will be BANNED (Hint: Simple Questions Simple Answers thread).
Out of curiosity, say someone does use the search function, simply uses improper key words thus never finds the relevant thread. And another member quickly links them to the appropriate location, and the user admits his mistakes and specifically requests a mod to close the thread, would that still yield a ban?
Additionally, what if a player has found relevant threads, but still has answered questions even after reading through said relevant threads, and opens a new one to ask specific questions related to but not enclosed within the related threads?
Thanks in advance.
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On April 10 2011 07:20 Saracen wrote:Updated the OP to make things a little more clear and fun for everyone:Show nested quote +If I watch your replay and there are obvious flaws (macro, micro, etc.) in your game that contribute to your loss, you will be BANNED (Hint: read the Analyzing Replays thread and the How to Improve thread). Why? Because if you care enough about your gameplay to clutter up the Strategy Forum with another [H] thread, then you care enough to spend time by yourself to actually improve. Basically, this is if I feel you are being lazy and having others do work for you when you have put in minimal effort yourself. Show nested quote +If you give incorrect advice, you will be SHOT DOWN AND RIDICULED. If you aren't sure whether or not you should be giving advice, then don't. That doesn't mean don't give advice if you're not masters. But anyone (masters included) giving advice better be pretty damn sure of their advice before they give it.
How much leeway will people be given to shoot others down exactly? :D
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On May 13 2011 02:40 Alejandrisha wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2011 07:20 Saracen wrote:Updated the OP to make things a little more clear and fun for everyone:If I watch your replay and there are obvious flaws (macro, micro, etc.) in your game that contribute to your loss, you will be BANNED (Hint: read the Analyzing Replays thread and the How to Improve thread). Why? Because if you care enough about your gameplay to clutter up the Strategy Forum with another [H] thread, then you care enough to spend time by yourself to actually improve. Basically, this is if I feel you are being lazy and having others do work for you when you have put in minimal effort yourself. If you give incorrect advice, you will be SHOT DOWN AND RIDICULED. If you aren't sure whether or not you should be giving advice, then don't. That doesn't mean don't give advice if you're not masters. But anyone (masters included) giving advice better be pretty damn sure of their advice before they give it. How much leeway will people be given to shoot others down exactly? :D
You can call out bad advice without fear of the ban hammer, unless you clearly break rules while doing so. Just make sure to give correct advice as a replacement so the readers can be educated.
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On May 13 2011 02:32 ViperaViRuS wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2011 11:11 Saracen wrote:For those of you posting [Q] threads:- If I can find the answer to your thread using the search function, you will be BANNED.
- If I can answer your thread in a few sentences, you will be BANNED (Hint: Simple Questions Simple Answers thread).
Out of curiosity, say someone does use the search function, simply uses improper key words thus never finds the relevant thread. And another member quickly links them to the appropriate location, and the user admits his mistakes and specifically requests a mod to close the thread, would that still yield a ban? Additionally, what if a player has found relevant threads, but still has answered questions even after reading through said relevant threads, and opens a new one to ask specific questions related to but not enclosed within the related threads? Thanks in advance.
Contrary to popular belief, I'm not Mr. Ragehammer-Ban-Happy-Mod, nor am I a ban robot who is incapable of understanding non-ban-related emotions and scenarios.
On May 13 2011 02:40 Alejandrisha wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2011 07:20 Saracen wrote:Updated the OP to make things a little more clear and fun for everyone:If I watch your replay and there are obvious flaws (macro, micro, etc.) in your game that contribute to your loss, you will be BANNED (Hint: read the Analyzing Replays thread and the How to Improve thread). Why? Because if you care enough about your gameplay to clutter up the Strategy Forum with another [H] thread, then you care enough to spend time by yourself to actually improve. Basically, this is if I feel you are being lazy and having others do work for you when you have put in minimal effort yourself. If you give incorrect advice, you will be SHOT DOWN AND RIDICULED. If you aren't sure whether or not you should be giving advice, then don't. That doesn't mean don't give advice if you're not masters. But anyone (masters included) giving advice better be pretty damn sure of their advice before they give it. How much leeway will people be given to shoot others down exactly? :D
As long as you explain why he's wrong and don't threaten to kill his mother or something, you're fine. Being right also helps.
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Heh, I can't help but feel the fear now before I post on them forums! But I guess that's how you make a successful forum! Nice work ^^
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Hmm, I'd like to start out with saying that I'm loving this purge. It really seems to be the only way to keep this particular forum to the TL standard.
What I'm wondering is how strictly the rules in Saracen's OP will be enforced. Yesterday I spent a little time reporting some awful threads here, and they were all dealt with eventually. Just now I opened the forum overview and there are quite a few thread that have been there for quite a while that don't follow the tagging standard, which I'd say is the most basic tell that someone hasn't read this thread (or the threads that are in the OP). Basically, this is what I'm talking about:
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I like the screenshot because it also includes travis' thread. Now, he didn't tag it, but he seems to have a good understanding of the game and did put some effort into it. I feel like this could easily be solved by a mod by editing the title and just adding the [G] tag. As for the other threads, they're pretty bad, some are just horrible.
I realize a lot of mods are probably busy dealing with reports from all over the forums and might not have the time to check the latest threads on this forum. Personally, I'd feel stupid reporting travis' thread considering he's a veteran here and the OP itself is decent, but just lacks a tag. I guess my question is, should I report all of these so that it's easier for the mods to deal with the threads, or should I stick to reporting the very obvious, insta-close/warn/ban threads? Is the purge's main purpose perhaps to just make users think twice before clicking the post button, but not necessarily be as strict as it initially sounds like?
Anyhow, keep it up, TL mods. You're doing a great job.
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Ummm I don't know if you guys have noticed but when the purge was first introduced, everyone was making better threads. However, now I feel that the strategy section is slowly going back to where it was prior to the purge. (Look at all the threads being made lately)
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This is a good move for the strategy forum. At first I was really interested to what people have to say but as time went by I noticed that the a large percentage of the quality of posts there was absolutely horrible. I don't think I need to go into detail into that.
Lets hope this forum will become more constructive now.
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On May 13 2011 07:48 Saracen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 02:32 ViperaViRuS wrote:On April 08 2011 11:11 Saracen wrote:For those of you posting [Q] threads:- If I can find the answer to your thread using the search function, you will be BANNED.
- If I can answer your thread in a few sentences, you will be BANNED (Hint: Simple Questions Simple Answers thread).
Out of curiosity, say someone does use the search function, simply uses improper key words thus never finds the relevant thread. And another member quickly links them to the appropriate location, and the user admits his mistakes and specifically requests a mod to close the thread, would that still yield a ban? Additionally, what if a player has found relevant threads, but still has answered questions even after reading through said relevant threads, and opens a new one to ask specific questions related to but not enclosed within the related threads? Thanks in advance. Contrary to popular belief, I'm not Mr. Ragehammer-Ban-Happy-Mod, nor am I a ban robot who is incapable of understanding non-ban-related emotions and scenarios.
Haha, my apologies, I did not mean to offend. I've actually only been around these forums for a bit (registered within this past month), but I figured I'd ask and know all the rules before hand and avoid troubles entirely rather than skirt along the line between acceptable and unacceptable.
Thanks for the answers though ^^
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On May 15 2011 21:53 MinoMino wrote:Hmm, I'd like to start out with saying that I'm loving this purge. It really seems to be the only way to keep this particular forum to the TL standard. What I'm wondering is how strictly the rules in Saracen's OP will be enforced. Yesterday I spent a little time reporting some awful threads here, and they were all dealt with eventually. Just now I opened the forum overview and there are quite a few thread that have been there for quite a while that don't follow the tagging standard, which I'd say is the most basic tell that someone hasn't read this thread (or the threads that are in the OP). Basically, this is what I'm talking about: + Show Spoiler +I like the screenshot because it also includes travis' thread. Now, he didn't tag it, but he seems to have a good understanding of the game and did put some effort into it. I feel like this could easily be solved by a mod by editing the title and just adding the [G] tag. As for the other threads, they're pretty bad, some are just horrible. I realize a lot of mods are probably busy dealing with reports from all over the forums and might not have the time to check the latest threads on this forum. Personally, I'd feel stupid reporting travis' thread considering he's a veteran here and the OP itself is decent, but just lacks a tag. I guess my question is, should I report all of these so that it's easier for the mods to deal with the threads, or should I stick to reporting the very obvious, insta-close/warn/ban threads? Is the purge's main purpose perhaps to just make users think twice before clicking the post button, but not necessarily be as strict as it initially sounds like? Anyhow, keep it up, TL mods. You're doing a great job.
Don't report things like that. Those things are easy for me to notice and I'll take care of them.
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If we decide to play you in a BO3 to prove the validity of a strategy, how will it go down (i.e. am I allowed to proxy 2gate if the proposed build is something completely different/will you 6pool against a greedy build)?
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On May 16 2011 08:26 101toss wrote:
If we decide to play you in a BO3 to prove the validity of a strategy, how will it go down (i.e. am I allowed to proxy 2gate if the proposed build is something completely different/will you 6pool against a greedy build)?
No. You do your build you outlined in the OP, I do my counter build. I'll tell you what I'm going to do beforehand if I'm feeling generous. This happens at most 2 times. Then, I ban you indefinitely from the Strategy Forum and post the replays into the thread while everyone points and laughs.
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HEY! shout out to the admins for keepin the forums clean! cheers!
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The nerd Reich has begun beware all who post uselessly Its about time saracen something needed to be done about that strategy forum.
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On April 08 2011 11:11 Saracen wrote:
If your thread is about a new strategy and you do not have a damn good analysis (with replays) (i.e. I think your thread is too theorycrafty), you can play against me in a BO3 with your strategy. If you lose, you will be BANNED.
sweet... BO3 i'm beginning to like whoever this saracen dude is...
i think there should be a link for drafting strategies... like where the paint is still wet... (and people can vote a post into a draft stage or out of a draft stage)
i have a lot of new strats but it takes a long time to flesh out and "prove"...especially if i can't access very good players frequently...or if i do, i usually can't get the replay..
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On May 15 2011 21:53 MinoMino wrote:Hmm, I'd like to start out with saying that I'm loving this purge. It really seems to be the only way to keep this particular forum to the TL standard. What I'm wondering is how strictly the rules in Saracen's OP will be enforced. Yesterday I spent a little time reporting some awful threads here, and they were all dealt with eventually. Just now I opened the forum overview and there are quite a few thread that have been there for quite a while that don't follow the tagging standard, which I'd say is the most basic tell that someone hasn't read this thread (or the threads that are in the OP). Basically, this is what I'm talking about: + Show Spoiler +I like the screenshot because it also includes travis' thread. Now, he didn't tag it, but he seems to have a good understanding of the game and did put some effort into it. I feel like this could easily be solved by a mod by editing the title and just adding the [G] tag. As for the other threads, they're pretty bad, some are just horrible. I realize a lot of mods are probably busy dealing with reports from all over the forums and might not have the time to check the latest threads on this forum. Personally, I'd feel stupid reporting travis' thread considering he's a veteran here and the OP itself is decent, but just lacks a tag. I guess my question is, should I report all of these so that it's easier for the mods to deal with the threads, or should I stick to reporting the very obvious, insta-close/warn/ban threads? Is the purge's main purpose perhaps to just make users think twice before clicking the post button, but not necessarily be as strict as it initially sounds like? Anyhow, keep it up, TL mods. You're doing a great job.
I wouldn't have thought that missing the appropriate tag in the title would be cause for an imediate ban, better to tell the person of their mistake and let the mods change it. If the thread is obviously lacking and half thought out then by all means report them and let the ban hammer crush them 
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I'm looking forward to the new strategy forum now! I wish there was some other way to purge out the 'useless' posts, but honestly it was getting out of hand. Mods will have a lot of work ahead of them to purge the board. But in the long run it will be better, bringing back the TL standard to the forums!
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