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padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
February 03 2012 08:10 GMT
#1081
holy shit who dug Jesus out of his grave?
Stop procrastinating
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
February 03 2012 10:23 GMT
#1082
On February 03 2012 17:10 padfoota wrote:
holy shit who dug Jesus out of his grave?



Not me.
What you're looking at could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn't. It's the beginning. Introducing Mr. John Valentine, air traveler. His destination: the Twilight Zone...
Dvriel
Profile Joined November 2011
607 Posts
February 13 2012 01:19 GMT
#1083
Can someone tell me how does this BO work vs Marauder proxy rax?
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
February 13 2012 01:21 GMT
#1084
is iechoic still playing ?? haven't heard from him in quite a while
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
February 13 2012 01:22 GMT
#1085
On February 13 2012 10:19 Dvriel wrote:
Can someone tell me how does this BO work vs Marauder proxy rax?

It doesn't. It's such a rare thing to face, that it was okay to take a blind loss here and there from proxy marauder from the abusive gay cheese that is this build.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Ruyguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada988 Posts
February 13 2012 01:32 GMT
#1086
On February 13 2012 10:21 Grampz wrote:
is iechoic still playing ?? haven't heard from him in quite a while

I want to know too! I remember watching him on the day9 daily a while ago. Maybe he changed his name?
eSportLive
Profile Joined October 2010
United States10 Posts
February 16 2012 23:19 GMT
#1087
Soooo... sure this build works if your terran opponent goes one of the listed openings. But I get owned on the ladder every time a terran just goes one base bio. He get's three rax and pushes with a handful of units. If I follow this build I only have two marines and maybe three helions at that point. GG. Even if you scout it coming, not a hell of a lot you can do about it.


Sad stuff.
Whoever said "winning isn't everything" probably lost.
TheWhirlwind
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2 Posts
February 17 2012 04:32 GMT
#1088
On February 17 2012 08:19 eSportLive wrote:
Soooo... sure this build works if your terran opponent goes one of the listed openings. But I get owned on the ladder every time a terran just goes one base bio. He get's three rax and pushes with a handful of units. If I follow this build I only have two marines and maybe three helions at that point. GG. Even if you scout it coming, not a hell of a lot you can do about it.


Sad stuff.


this build isn't really relevant anymore with the BFH nerf, and yes you will always lose to early bio
Ubenn
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada114 Posts
February 17 2012 04:37 GMT
#1089
On February 13 2012 10:32 Ruyguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 10:21 Grampz wrote:
is iechoic still playing ?? haven't heard from him in quite a while

I want to know too! I remember watching him on the day9 daily a while ago. Maybe he changed his name?

He plays MMOs. I played with him and Psy in Rift for awhile wouldn't be suprised to see him in Swtor now.
ericfalcrow
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore9 Posts
April 09 2012 22:18 GMT
#1090
hey echoic! Great build! The Recent IPL there is some top lvl terran using it against zerg! Which i think is quite interesting..
RJM95
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom10 Posts
April 12 2012 01:51 GMT
#1091
I was wondering, how do you break tank contains with this build? Marines safely positioned behind tanks would kill your banshees, and tanks would kill the hellions that are supposed to kill the marines. I haven't read all the comments, and I was just wondering what you'd do vs a 200/200 Marine/Tank composition that is well spread out and is slow pushing you?
Dvriel
Profile Joined November 2011
607 Posts
April 27 2012 16:55 GMT
#1092
On April 12 2012 10:51 RJM95 wrote:
I was wondering, how do you break tank contains with this build? Marines safely positioned behind tanks would kill your banshees, and tanks would kill the hellions that are supposed to kill the marines. I haven't read all the comments, and I was just wondering what you'd do vs a 200/200 Marine/Tank composition that is well spread out and is slow pushing you?


I dont think this BO works today with hellion nerf,and vs 200 Marine/Tank/Medivac comp there is nothing to do,but try to catch him off position and kill him sieging before enemy.TvT is so sad and boring.No real good alternative BO.Marine tank medivac,just cover it all,and u dont need anything more,and there is nothing to do.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
April 27 2012 17:09 GMT
#1093
On April 28 2012 01:55 Dvriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 10:51 RJM95 wrote:
I was wondering, how do you break tank contains with this build? Marines safely positioned behind tanks would kill your banshees, and tanks would kill the hellions that are supposed to kill the marines. I haven't read all the comments, and I was just wondering what you'd do vs a 200/200 Marine/Tank composition that is well spread out and is slow pushing you?


I dont think this BO works today with hellion nerf,and vs 200 Marine/Tank/Medivac comp there is nothing to do,but try to catch him off position and kill him sieging before enemy.TvT is so sad and boring.No real good alternative BO.Marine tank medivac,just cover it all,and u dont need anything more,and there is nothing to do.

Or you could just go mech...
¯\_(シ)_/¯
kynka
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden34 Posts
May 09 2012 21:13 GMT
#1094
dos this still work? i tryed it, but im getting so mutch dick in my ass..
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
May 09 2012 21:27 GMT
#1095
This build is pretty bad nowadays. Loses to both straight up bio and straight up mech.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
May 09 2012 21:30 GMT
#1096
Builds these days are more well tuned and are better at defending against banshees in general, which this build revolves around. Fast thors from a mech player as pokebunny said just murder it no problem. In the early game there just aren't enough banshees to out dps a thor with a few scvs repairing
masterchip27
Profile Joined April 2011
United States284 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 06:29:58
May 23 2012 06:17 GMT
#1097
Hi, bumping this because MaruPrime brought skyterran back pretty successfully against Alive last night. Here is the VOD http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls3/vod/67538/?set=6 (It's Group B set 6 Up and Down).

Alive scouted the fusion core during construction, and scouted with banshee harass. Maru starts off with 3OC in his base, and keeps them all above the ramp until its safe to expand, and I think that he believed his tanks marines and pulling SCV's would be enough to stop early aggression or banshee aggression, combined with really fast replenishment of SCV's and mules. Maybe Maru pulled this build up because Alive doesn't often go straight up bio or mech (or possibly he can defend against non all-in aggression from bio or mech)?

Edit: In the midgame Maru was very very patient and slowly turret pushed in two locations (first at the central xel naga tower, then near his opponents base) and made a ton of OC's. His strategy was to contain Alive on 3 base, and it worked out really well.
EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
May 23 2012 07:27 GMT
#1098
I tried to watch the vs. marine/tank push (vs. sixto) replay but the replay doesn't work for the China version of SC2.

Can someone explain to me how he holds it off? How many marines, tanks and medivacs arrive at his ramp at what time?

I tried to execute the build, but I just died to a 10 marine/1 tank/1 medivac push that arrive at my ramp super early at 6:30.
Debian
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada95 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 04:23:26
June 26 2012 04:00 GMT
#1099
Does anyone still use this build? If so, how does it work with the new patches and maps?

Is there a safe transition into this build from Marine tank? or at least 1 rax FE into this.
emaster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States32 Posts
June 26 2012 07:18 GMT
#1100
Not really all that viable anymore, since it relies on a few gimmicky things to do dmg, banshees and blueflame hellion drops. People now recognize that and do better vs that. The unit composition early game is good vs any tank hellion marine marauder mixture, with proper micro.

I'm not a Terran player, but he told me the nutshell was that it is super vulnerable to a thor transition, if you try to transition to it you will be behind the opponent. The more common transition was BC, which absolutely destroys thor. The problem is it takes longer to transition to that, so terrans would see the build, and hit a timing with thors that this build simply can't handle.

If people wanna tell me im wrong, go ahead cuz I dont know but that seemed like it made sense to me when I was told that.
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