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Hey, everyone. Platinum level Protoss player here.
For a while now, I've been hovering around the Diamond level, and I'm about to cross that line. I've got around 400 games of experience, but I've got a primary concern in my game-
How can I take that next step from 'good player' to 'great player'? I realize, Diamond doesn't immediately mean I'll be playing professionals, but I feel like I've plateaued at my current skill level. I have numerous build orders in my arsenal, I usually scout well, I pay attention to the current meta game and I watch a lot of professional matches, but sometimes, I just feel like even when I do get into Diamond, I'll still be at that Platinum skill level.
What are some general tips any Diamond players out there can give to help me progress from being good to great? Thanks.
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You will be surprised, the difference isnt all that big. When I got promoted i lost quite a few games, but after some time starting winning decently again, soooo 
Just keep on playing and you will figure out the slightly different gamestyle often present in diamond imo .
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get a build order down to perfect execution until atleast 40-50ish supply
play enough ladder/practice games to learn the cheeses in every matchup and how to defend them
be conscious of your macro and always try to keep your money low and army building so that you are comfortable playing late game against most random ladder opponents
learn what different things that you scout mean so that you can react to what your opponents do instead of just following the same plan every game
easy diamond?
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all i can say is practice with diamond players for all three races. Other than that, its just being really nitpicky about what you do. I'm diamond rank 14 and as a zerg player, i just familiarized myself with the metagame, and always thought ahead. You should also practice your late game micro and base management skills. Anyway, just practice with a diamond friend. If you need one, just pm me and i'll add you.
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Assuming Standard Play
Copper->Silver: Constant scv production
Silver->Gold: Constant army production
Gold->Platinum: Micro while Macro
Plat->Diamond: Read and react
Diamond->Pro: Get superaccount like dayvie
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I don't think this belongs to sc2 strategy. Should be under sc2 general
But to address your concerns...
Aside from some of the comments above, crank up your mouse speed a bit and work on your apm. A good 100 apm would carry your games far down the road.
Aside from that - it's just learning from your mistakes and playing/watching people who are better than you.
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I am 900 toss player. I don't have any build order, I just do the things I want when I have the money for it. I have no 100 apm, but only 70-ish.
Just learn to defend cheeses, macro like a king, and don't forget to expand and scout. Play a lot of games.
Important: watch your own replays too. I lost yesterday to a roach allin vs my FE. But by wathing the replay I know how many cannons I exactly would have needed. I am pretty confident against a roach allin now.
Another VERY important thing: spread your units and make an arc before engaging the enemy. Make sure the zealots arent behind the stalkers (cause they will get stuck). Learned this by watching VODs of top protoss players.
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It's your apm that goes up as you improve, not the other way around.
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Hitting Diamond is easy... either play ALOT ( ive seen alot of diamonds with 50/50 win/loss ratios)
Or Win more than you lose and you will jump into diamond faster.
Reaching diamond is fairly easy as long as you, as a player has even a weak grasp of micro/macro, and some build orders.
Now hitting High diamonds 700-800+ means your really rising above the majority of players.
I hang around 500-600 diamond(toss) atm, I have alot of holes in my game, coming from a Iccup BW background i feel anyone who is D+ or higher can hit diamond with regular gameplay. C- and up should ease diamond with relative ease.
(For those not familar with iccup it was a broodwar league, which incorporated antihack and tourneys and such, players were ranks from A - D. A and B's were relatively hard to come by(if fact ive never even run into an A), C's were very Solid players(this is where i would put the average diamond), D+'s would be those just that are really starting to understand the game.)
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On August 24 2010 18:06 Alaric wrote:
It's your apm that goes up as you improve, not the other way around.
If you focus on what you need to remember, such as making workers, units, expanding, adding structures, you will get used to moving faster to do those things. Also make sure you know how to deal with various strategies that your opponents will throw at you besides just knowing your own BO.
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No big difference... Just skill level wise like macro, economy, timings have to be improved, other than that everyone in plat and diamond already knows their basic builds and unit compositions in every MU.
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Find your worst matchup and opening and work on just that. Also just play a ton more even if it feels like you're not getting better.
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I was placed in silver and have found the same thing when moving up each time, (now in diamond) higher league players have better macro. That's pretty much the major thing. Fewer silly mistakes, better unit composition and not far better micro. Just macro macro macro.
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Diamond isn't really that much different than Plat. You just have to work on your probe/army production and know when to expand. Stop 4-gating everything that moves, and start FEing vs Z, 3gate robo vs P and I dunno what vs T. You have to learn to solidify your advantage once you get it, no allin 1 base crap anymore. If you win a battle don't spam out of your intial gates like a madman but instead put up a nexus, get more gates, control the map, scout him from time to time etc.
It really isn't a big jump.
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TBH , I am still stuck in Plat , but it's true that the more i progress in my league , the more i feel like I muscle memorized my BO and my game
PS : Copper league still exist ?
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I'm in diamond, and as random, and the only BO I have nailed down is the korean 4gate all in for pvp (by necessity for the build). Every other build I honestly just wing it alittle bit, with a general plan in mind. I would say that some of the critical things that you need to do are work on macroing during battles, and positioning, positioning, positioning. The ability to anticipate attacks so that, for example, if you poke 4 lings up a terran ramp and see 1 marine, you immedatly get another queen and an evo chamber while using your lings to try to harass the front of the base.
Alot of it is just attention management - knowing what to pay attention to, when. Sometimes it's important to stop macroing and just focus on microing, and sometimes you just have to macro and let your army do its work.
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It would help a lot if you could provide us with some analysis so we can comment on what you can improve on.
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i dont like the argument that 50/50 diamond players aren't that good (although some really do suck) because they are matched up against other diamond players. id rather be 50/50 diamond than lets say 80/20 gold or 60/40 plat.
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On August 24 2010 17:20 Emperor_Earth wrote:
Assuming Standard Play
Copper->Silver: Constant scv production
Silver->Gold: Constant army production
Gold->Platinum: Micro while Macro
Plat->Diamond: Read and react
Diamond->Pro: Get superaccount like dayvie
I strongly disagree on that one.
I am right now in Platinum-League ( I started in gold and got promoted pretty quickly)
and what I am right now really working on is to macro without sloppiness during battles or even scouting processes. You might also call that multitasking. I believe that if I can take that stage and also macro properly while my units are fighting (especially as zerg or toss - since it takes more to just press a number and then some hotkeys) than I will surpass most platinum players finally get to diamond.
The reasons why I lose is because DURING BATTLES my macro gets sloppy (forgetting to make supply, place buildings, set up an expansion) so that I have overmins or supply issues or an expo with only 15 workers mining.
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