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ZvT Mutalisk "Magic Box" via PsyStarcraft - Page 4

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gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
August 21 2010 17:08 GMT
#61
On August 21 2010 06:56 cyprin wrote:
2400/2400 of mutas beat 1200/800 of thors?


Wow, way to miss the point COMPLETELY.

Seriously.
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nukkuj
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Finland403 Posts
August 21 2010 17:08 GMT
#62
nice find, whoever figured it out and Psy for introducing it in a good manner. So now we see all that TvZ imba talk was just bullshit.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
August 21 2010 17:09 GMT
#63
ive seen Check use it before but i guess IdrA just made if famous in the EU/US. Pretty neat counter to the thor/hellion/tank combo
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
August 21 2010 17:10 GMT
#64
So many butthurt Terran players now. I can't wait to tryout this magic box stuff against them. Terran Tears, hahaha you bastards can eat it.
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
August 21 2010 17:10 GMT
#65
Everyone and his cat was using this routinely before in any match, and still Day[9] and d'Apollo was completely surprised when Idra used it to great effect against Tarson. Hmm.
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Erucious
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway393 Posts
August 21 2010 17:11 GMT
#66
On August 21 2010 07:12 Galleon.frigate wrote:
so I've known of this for weeks, not that I'm special, read it here weeks ago.
yet no one has posted a replay where this made a different at high level? I know I've been looking...


I'm very excited to see somethign happen, but ... wtf.. still waiting


Watch this IEM game
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idra vs tarson game 3 semi finals
I'm Norwegian/Dutch. Just the awesome parts of them though :D
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
August 21 2010 17:11 GMT
#67
On August 22 2010 02:10 Snuggles wrote:
So many butthurt Terran players now. I can't wait to tryout this magic box stuff against them. Terran Tears, hahaha you bastards can eat it.


Butthurt? Post evidence.

More like we finally can't be rid of the endless river of tears the strategy/general SC2 forums have been since release.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
August 21 2010 17:15 GMT
#68
Very nice but this doesn't really have anything to do with magic box.. it has to do with not clumping your units lol
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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
August 21 2010 17:16 GMT
#69
On August 22 2010 02:11 Erucious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 07:12 Galleon.frigate wrote:
so I've known of this for weeks, not that I'm special, read it here weeks ago.
yet no one has posted a replay where this made a different at high level? I know I've been looking...


I'm very excited to see somethign happen, but ... wtf.. still waiting


Watch this IEM game
+ Show Spoiler +
idra vs tarson game 3 semi finals


Where can I see those?
CaptnIgnit
Profile Joined May 2010
United States192 Posts
August 21 2010 17:18 GMT
#70
On August 22 2010 02:16 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 02:11 Erucious wrote:
On August 21 2010 07:12 Galleon.frigate wrote:
so I've known of this for weeks, not that I'm special, read it here weeks ago.
yet no one has posted a replay where this made a different at high level? I know I've been looking...


I'm very excited to see somethign happen, but ... wtf.. still waiting


Watch this IEM game
+ Show Spoiler +
idra vs tarson game 3 semi finals


Where can I see those?


they aren't up yet, keep an eye on the IEM Gamescom threads.
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
August 21 2010 17:19 GMT
#71
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145719

Nice way of stealing a movie out of a thread without a reference and posting a woot topic in the general section. Well played sir.
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
August 21 2010 17:19 GMT
#72
Lol, a complete reversal of the BW muta micro.
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DoomSpirit
Profile Joined August 2010
France46 Posts
August 21 2010 17:19 GMT
#73
On August 22 2010 02:10 Ghad wrote:
Everyone and his cat was using this routinely before in any match, and still Day[9] and d'Apollo was completely surprised when Idra used it to great effect against Tarson. Hmm.


So true.

And thx for the post, didn't know about this either. And seeing Idra using it is even more interesting because we will see how terran react now.
Just hope it won't be a stupid mass tower thing while pushing their way out.
Stoli
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada173 Posts
August 21 2010 17:20 GMT
#74
i really doubt this will change the zvt metagame much.. i'm barely more cost-effective thor vs muta than I was before, it just takes much less effort.. no real change to the way i start, and i still need a large ling bling army to kill marines that come with the thors, still can't harass against turret + thor range..

and it's still very expensive to deal with hellion or reaper agression (and impossible to fe against a bunker imo)
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blackodd
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden451 Posts
August 21 2010 17:21 GMT
#75
[image loading]
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Kfish
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Chile282 Posts
August 21 2010 17:26 GMT
#76
Haha awsome pic, but anyways.... I have been watching alot of ZvT from asia lately and they mostly go bio/mech and pure muta does not work against it apparently. Games turn out to be baneling/ling/muta vs heavy marine thor with some tanks.
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
August 21 2010 17:28 GMT
#77
On August 22 2010 02:20 Stoli wrote:
i really doubt this will change the zvt metagame much.. i'm barely more cost-effective thor vs muta than I was before, it just takes much less effort.. no real change to the way i start, and i still need a large ling bling army to kill marines that come with the thors, still can't harass against turret + thor range..


Very true. It is still another tool in the box for Zerg, and it will perhaps hurt the tank count of T a bit.
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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 17:31:53
August 21 2010 17:28 GMT
#78
On August 22 2010 02:26 Kfish wrote:
Haha awsome pic, but anyways.... I have been watching alot of ZvT from asia lately and they mostly go bio/mech and pure muta does not work against it apparently. Games turn out to be baneling/ling/muta vs heavy marine thor with some tanks.


ofc pure muta doesnt cut it. the thing is that thors heavily cutdown tank numbers and that bio easily gets raped by ling/baneling(/infestor) without heavy tanks support.

i really doubt this will change the zvt metagame much.. i'm barely more cost-effective thor vs muta than I was before, it just takes much less effort.. no real change to the way i start, and i still need a large ling bling army to kill marines that come with the thors, still can't harass against turret + thor ran


with proper muta harrass you can contain the T for ages. was already strong but people always cried how 3 thors > 9235 mutas and how they are useless once he pushes out. this shows people that this isnt true at all.

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bara
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany150 Posts
August 21 2010 17:31 GMT
#79
On August 22 2010 02:21 ayadew wrote:
[image loading]


Make it "scheisse" instead of "scheissen"
but anyway nice idea
Pure mathematics is, in its way, the poetry of logical ideas
HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
August 21 2010 17:45 GMT
#80
I do not understand, is it a real BW magic box, do you have to select the units by moving the mouse from one corner of the box to the other, or can I just double click one muta to select all and it will work the same?
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