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shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 08:10:38
August 01 2010 08:09 GMT
#81
mutas are amazing vs terran . you NEED map control if you want to get a third, or even a natural if you go 1 hatch muta which i really like personally. my zvt playstyle is contain with mutas on 1base or 2, macro mode and adapt to what they're going since you have amazing vision and map control with mutas. if they go thor marine juts make a ton of lings/roaches/infestors, if they go mech then just make a ton of roaches. the main point here is that during the period where you have 5-10 mutas out the terran can't leave his base until he gets 6-7 turrets up or 3-4 thors. thats when you have time to get an army and another expansion

i honestly don't think zvt is worse then 40-60, might be just becaus ef low diamond but once you get timings macro and map control down it really isn't that bad. mech isn't particularly 1a2a, but it feels like that when 5 siege tanks roll out to your base when you have 10 roaches and 20 lings. that's just because your timings and feel for the matchup aren't good enough though.

just chippin in my zvt 2 cents here

brain_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States812 Posts
August 01 2010 09:28 GMT
#82
On July 31 2010 03:45 Faulteh wrote:
I have to agree. The games were amazing.

The thing that kind of bothered me though was that Sen had to have amazing control. Super stellar control. Flanking, feinting, overlord sac'ing, baneling dropping all to counter terrans 1a2a siege play. Then, the terran's push was still very nearly successful.

Something seems a bit wrong about that.



Then consider that none of us are as good as Sen. So it is broken for 99.9% of people. :|
MythicalMage
Profile Joined May 2010
1360 Posts
August 01 2010 11:28 GMT
#83
It irks me that people think Mech is easy. Maybe bio mech. And of course that brings up the fact that no one really knows what mech is.
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
August 01 2010 11:38 GMT
#84
Well it's not hard to be annoyed at mech when a 70 pop army with 6 siege tanks takes out a 140 pop Zerg army at a choke. I'm not saying it's imbalanced, it's just when paper meats scissors peoples first reaction is to get annoyed, not to think of rock.
MythicalMage
Profile Joined May 2010
1360 Posts
August 01 2010 11:50 GMT
#85
On August 01 2010 20:38 AndyJay wrote:
Well it's not hard to be annoyed at mech when a 70 pop army with 6 siege tanks takes out a 140 pop Zerg army at a choke. I'm not saying it's imbalanced, it's just when paper meats scissors peoples first reaction is to get annoyed, not to think of rock.

Ish.
Thing is, it's not that simple, really. There's no "trick" to winning vs mech, at least not one we know. Then again, the game is new, and I highly doubt most of the people complaining about mech, have seen true mech.
Sen
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Taiwan108 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-12 10:40:27
August 12 2010 10:38 GMT
#86
Orz ZvT is really hard for zerg in my eyes too . specially maps like LT Fucking Highground and map that so near each other
Stimpk
Profile Joined July 2010
France165 Posts
August 12 2010 10:50 GMT
#87
Sen is here :D GL in the HDH2 tournament, I'll support you !
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
August 12 2010 10:54 GMT
#88
Me too. I love watching good Zerg in tournaments because when they win it is always by the hair and it is always so exciting
TheDna
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany577 Posts
August 12 2010 11:19 GMT
#89
Wish he would stream on livestream not that justin.tv bs
Melt
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland281 Posts
August 12 2010 11:20 GMT
#90
Infested Terran is probably the most underused thing in ZvT.

Just throw a bunch in the Tanks and let them shoot each other or if they don't, let the IT's kill the tanks.
TheDna
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany577 Posts
August 12 2010 11:30 GMT
#91
Good terrans however will use offensive towers and save energy for 2-3 scans before pushing or if needed ravens.
While i think they work vs mediocre Terrans(TLO proved they worked there in few replays) they are a huge gas investment and tend not to work very well vs better terrans.

Overlord drops are much better and also much more cost efficient. Dropping also allows to exploit the slow moving terran force with offensive drops.
I think its simply way way better and infestors are just good if terrans tend to add too many marines. Too bad roaches were nerfed they used to be such a good counter to marines :x
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