• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:10
CEST 00:10
KST 07:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)54Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format16[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!6Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back12BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) [D] Wireframe Casting Removed Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format Is the larve respawn broken?
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion NaDa’s Body Followup Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) Etiquete rules in Asl?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
The Experiences We Want and …
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9199 users

Sen's ZvT tactics - Page 5

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 All
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 08:10:38
August 01 2010 08:09 GMT
#81
mutas are amazing vs terran . you NEED map control if you want to get a third, or even a natural if you go 1 hatch muta which i really like personally. my zvt playstyle is contain with mutas on 1base or 2, macro mode and adapt to what they're going since you have amazing vision and map control with mutas. if they go thor marine juts make a ton of lings/roaches/infestors, if they go mech then just make a ton of roaches. the main point here is that during the period where you have 5-10 mutas out the terran can't leave his base until he gets 6-7 turrets up or 3-4 thors. thats when you have time to get an army and another expansion

i honestly don't think zvt is worse then 40-60, might be just becaus ef low diamond but once you get timings macro and map control down it really isn't that bad. mech isn't particularly 1a2a, but it feels like that when 5 siege tanks roll out to your base when you have 10 roaches and 20 lings. that's just because your timings and feel for the matchup aren't good enough though.

just chippin in my zvt 2 cents here

brain_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States812 Posts
August 01 2010 09:28 GMT
#82
On July 31 2010 03:45 Faulteh wrote:
I have to agree. The games were amazing.

The thing that kind of bothered me though was that Sen had to have amazing control. Super stellar control. Flanking, feinting, overlord sac'ing, baneling dropping all to counter terrans 1a2a siege play. Then, the terran's push was still very nearly successful.

Something seems a bit wrong about that.



Then consider that none of us are as good as Sen. So it is broken for 99.9% of people. :|
MythicalMage
Profile Joined May 2010
1360 Posts
August 01 2010 11:28 GMT
#83
It irks me that people think Mech is easy. Maybe bio mech. And of course that brings up the fact that no one really knows what mech is.
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
August 01 2010 11:38 GMT
#84
Well it's not hard to be annoyed at mech when a 70 pop army with 6 siege tanks takes out a 140 pop Zerg army at a choke. I'm not saying it's imbalanced, it's just when paper meats scissors peoples first reaction is to get annoyed, not to think of rock.
MythicalMage
Profile Joined May 2010
1360 Posts
August 01 2010 11:50 GMT
#85
On August 01 2010 20:38 AndyJay wrote:
Well it's not hard to be annoyed at mech when a 70 pop army with 6 siege tanks takes out a 140 pop Zerg army at a choke. I'm not saying it's imbalanced, it's just when paper meats scissors peoples first reaction is to get annoyed, not to think of rock.

Ish.
Thing is, it's not that simple, really. There's no "trick" to winning vs mech, at least not one we know. Then again, the game is new, and I highly doubt most of the people complaining about mech, have seen true mech.
Sen
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Taiwan108 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-12 10:40:27
August 12 2010 10:38 GMT
#86
Orz ZvT is really hard for zerg in my eyes too . specially maps like LT Fucking Highground and map that so near each other
Stimpk
Profile Joined July 2010
France165 Posts
August 12 2010 10:50 GMT
#87
Sen is here :D GL in the HDH2 tournament, I'll support you !
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
August 12 2010 10:54 GMT
#88
Me too. I love watching good Zerg in tournaments because when they win it is always by the hair and it is always so exciting
TheDna
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany577 Posts
August 12 2010 11:19 GMT
#89
Wish he would stream on livestream not that justin.tv bs
Melt
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland281 Posts
August 12 2010 11:20 GMT
#90
Infested Terran is probably the most underused thing in ZvT.

Just throw a bunch in the Tanks and let them shoot each other or if they don't, let the IT's kill the tanks.
TheDna
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany577 Posts
August 12 2010 11:30 GMT
#91
Good terrans however will use offensive towers and save energy for 2-3 scans before pushing or if needed ravens.
While i think they work vs mediocre Terrans(TLO proved they worked there in few replays) they are a huge gas investment and tend not to work very well vs better terrans.

Overlord drops are much better and also much more cost efficient. Dropping also allows to exploit the slow moving terran force with offensive drops.
I think its simply way way better and infestors are just good if terrans tend to add too many marines. Too bad roaches were nerfed they used to be such a good counter to marines :x
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Epic.LAN
13:00
Epic.LAN 48 Playoff Stage
epiclan53
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ViBE132
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 617
HiyA 21
Dota 2
syndereN366
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
fl0m1853
minikerr35
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox674
Mew2King259
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr91
Other Games
gofns11557
tarik_tv6081
Grubby3279
Liquid`RaSZi1219
C9.Mang0616
Livibee135
XaKoH 117
Chillindude39
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2235
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 117
• musti20045 26
• RyuSc2 9
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix21
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21061
Other Games
• imaqtpie990
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
10h 51m
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
11h 51m
OSC
14h 51m
IPSL
17h 51m
Bonyth vs Ret
WardiTV Weekly
1d 12h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 17h
OSC
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Online Event
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W3
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Proleague 2026-07-18
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.