TLMC#12 Finalists Feedback Thread

Kantuva

Uruguay211 Posts

February 22 2019 04:59 GMT

Hey everybody, this will be a fairly un-official feedback thread dedicated to the finalists of the TLMC#12!

These days I have been with very little time to make a "proper" feedback thread to finalists, but I do have today and tomorrow kind of free, so I took the chance and make some videos for finalists, I just finished reviewing the Standard and Macro categories, and hopefully they are useful for those whom are in search of things to improve on their own maps!

Standard

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Ephemeron
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Operation Lockdown
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Triton
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Macro

Acropolis
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Black Baroque
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Disco Bloodbath
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Heatwave
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Challenge 1

Loss Aversion
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Rest Calm
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Thunderbird
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Collision Course
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Challenge 2

Breakout
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Mungyeong Saejae
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Neo Turbo Tokyo 84'
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Winter's Gate
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For those that arent in the finalists and still seek feedback to their maps, dont worry, feedback will be delivered as usual in the future TLMC#12 Feedback Thread once TLMC#12 ends, where questions can be asked, we might even do a stream again like we did for the Pre-Judging Feedback.

Take care guys and enjoy the videos!

Here's a playlist link

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United States2409 Posts

February 22 2019 23:43 GMT

Thanks for all of these feedback videos Kantuva!

Is there a reason we aren't simply putting the 50/50hp destructible debris behind natural/third mineral lines? That way, cannon rushes would have to complete a canon nearby and destroy 50hp before building there. It would also be easy for the defender to destroy to build static defense for early/mid game air harass. Or perhaps putting minerals on the edge of the map so there is not space to build behind?

Kantuva

Uruguay211 Posts

February 23 2019 02:10 GMT

I honestly dont think there's a strong reason why we can't do that other than "it looks weird".

That might be specially true for the second one, in BW there were maps where the minerals at the nat were very, very close to the cliffedge itself, and even when BW had a different building pathing footprint than SC2 making cannon rushes less of a direct problem they were still strong ish

When it comes to the first point of adding unbuildable plates, yeah I might agree too, I honestly just dont think of doing that as "clean design", therefore it makes me kinda wince just to think of actually doing it, specially given that "it isnt that hard" to not have issues with cannon rushes

I think that the problem that we are facing atm is mostly on DevTeam's side of the court, it is them who have the capabilities of reducing the problem, and I would at least temporarily recommend mapmakers to not go ham on 100% wrecking all cannon rush spots because they after all also are a "valuable" strategy to punish greedy play not to mention that having more strategical variety than less is generally not "good".

Anyhow, those are my thoughts more or less

Also!, I just added the Challenge 1 and Challenge 2 feedback vids now!

RQM

Korea (South)104 Posts

February 23 2019 12:34 GMT

Thanks for doing this again Kantu! I accepted most of the feedbacks. Should have made Mungyeong a bit smaller in the first place, now I think it's too late to change its dimension. I'm counting on Acropolis. I'll be waiting further feedbacks on my other two maps.

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