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Eden of Ulnar
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[M] (4) Eden Of Ulnar
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RexTerran
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Avexyli
United States697 Posts
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algue
France1436 Posts
On May 22 2018 10:28 Avexyli wrote: While a solid 4p map, it still has natural spawn imbalance that will make every player hate it. :/ Where did that ever come from? On BW they still use lots of 4p map and even some blatantly asymmetrical 3p maps and no one complains about them, not the pros nor the casuals. Just the same, for the longest time in Sc2 4p maps were appreciated or even loved (Frost, Whirlwind) but suddenly they just disappeared and everyone hates them. Can anyone explain what suddenly changed? Based on the afore mentioned reasons I believe the problem comes from the players developping some silly requirements rather than 4p map being suddenly inherently bad. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On May 23 2018 21:10 algue wrote: Where did that ever come from? On BW they still use lots of 4p map and even some blatantly asymmetrical 3p maps and no one complains about them, not the pros nor the casuals. Just the same, for the longest time in Sc2 4p maps were appreciated or even loved (Frost, Whirlwind) but suddenly they just disappeared and everyone hates them. Can anyone explain what suddenly changed? Based on the afore mentioned reasons I believe the problem comes from the players developping some silly requirements rather than 4p map being suddenly inherently bad. It's been a trend for a long time, but I've seen some people suggest that the 12-worker start was the nail in the coffin. With it, you just can't possibly make sure to get a scout off early enough to hold aggression in PvZ for example. | ||
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Avexyli
United States697 Posts
On May 23 2018 21:10 algue wrote: Where did that ever come from? On BW they still use lots of 4p map and even some blatantly asymmetrical 3p maps and no one complains about them, not the pros nor the casuals. ...Brood War and SC2 map designs are so wildly different. This argument is one of my biggest pet peeves :/ In addition to what Zig said, there's a couple other things. There's plenty of compositions and common 'strategies' that are balanced around 2p rotationally symmetrical map layouts. The biggest example is to take a TvZ matchup on a rotational 4p map, say, Cactus Valley or Honorgrounds. Both of these 4p maps have a bit of a bulge in the main that reach out towards one of the other spawns. If a Terran player spawns on the bottom right of Cactus Valley, and Zerg in the bottom left, the matchup immediately favors the Terran player by map design, which isn't a good situation to have in a high-$ tournament like say Blizzcon. The reason it favors this player, is due to the large dropping angle that the Terran can abuse through the main. Zerg players also prefer to expand horizontally, as a triangular pattern means it's easy for a Warp Prism or Medivac to hop between it and the main in a short amount of time compared to the Zerg's longer distance to defend. Not only this, but the Terran is expanding towards the Zerg with the natural base, a natural rallying direction. This map has the exact same issue. | ||
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Ej_
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algue
France1436 Posts
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fluidrone
France1478 Posts
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