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Mereel
Germany895 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/J6HQp.jpg) The first usefull Destination Port. I created some costum Textures to get the original feel of the Map. General: + Show Spoiler + Texture: Tarsonis/Costum Playable: 120x176 Expands: 12 Xel'Naga: 0 Overview: + Show Spoiler + Analyzer Overview: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VX1mOl.png) Analyzer: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/418uSl.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/R9tobl.png) Pictures: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2XtMYl.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/pvZ8El.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/y2zpcl.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2M80Ol.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/BxbdNl.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZPhhRl.jpg) | ||
The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Ha, seriously though, I think the only problem is that the middle is too cramped. Oh, and welcome back ^^ | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10358 Posts
I wonder if you should just make the 3 bridges in the middle 1 big area, because there's enough holes and cliffs around that area anyways and mech is already strong due to only needing like 3 sensor towers. And this way Zerg can actually engage better, and bio can't get FF'd and splashed to death. But ofc this is just from looking at it, but these were the problems that someone from ICCUP map making team said that kept destination from being a decent sc2 map. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37033 Posts
On December 10 2011 08:14 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Nice, but yes i agree the middle is too cramped. Especially in sc2 you got to allow more space so splash doesn't rape everything, and so that FFs don't rape everything neither. I wonder if you should just make the 3 bridges in the middle 1 big area, because there's enough holes and cliffs around that area anyways and mech is already strong due to only needing like 3 sensor towers. And this way Zerg can actually engage better, and bio can't get FF'd and splashed to death. But ofc this is just from looking at it, but these were the problems that someone from ICCUP map making team said that kept destination from being a decent sc2 map. But if u take away those 3 bridges, it's no longer the revered BW Destination :[ | ||
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LunaSaint
United Kingdom620 Posts
I really want to see some good games on it, see how easy it actually is to cut off the three bridges. | ||
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Mereel
Germany895 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10358 Posts
On December 10 2011 08:46 Seeker wrote: But if u take away those 3 bridges, it's no longer the revered BW Destination :[ Hm just make em wider then I guess? idk =/ | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10211 Posts
Overall, good map. I like the addition of one gas in the back bases. | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
I like the overall layout and think that it is definitely a map heading in an interesting direction. | ||
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-NegativeZero-
United States2142 Posts
On December 10 2011 10:38 FlaShFTW wrote: get rid of those 2 holes in the ground in the middle of the 2 centers of each side. this allows for armies not to get funneled into space half the size. also, considering how this is SC2, make the 3 central ramps into 2 ramps instead. this is so the armies are able to fit, not like in BW where you didn't need that (I remember you could only fit one tank/goon at a time on that bridge) Overall, good map. I like the addition of one gas in the back bases. I agree that the holes should be removed, they seem unnecessary. However, I think the bridges are fine, since the entire point is that they are 3 narrow chokepoints - it's a risk to move your army through and get caught in the middle, but the advantage is that the path is shorter. If you don't want to take that risk, there is the other, wider path around the side of the map... | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10358 Posts
On December 10 2011 11:57 Aeres wrote: Is that the fabled Panda Bear Guy in the center? omg is it??? | ||
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Antares777
United States1971 Posts
Nah I'm kidding, this map brings back memories of me and my brother playing LAN when we first learned how to play SC. Good times! Leave the three bridges the way they are. Might be the little kid inside me saying that, but I think it could work. | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37033 Posts
The units and pathing is so different for SC2 that BW maps have to be altered so much sometimes ..... and then it's no longer THE BW map :[ | ||
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eTcetRa
Australia822 Posts
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[]Phase[]
Belgium927 Posts
Anyone want to test this on EU? master zerg Phase - 170 | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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ArcticRaven
France1406 Posts
On December 10 2011 13:09 Seeker wrote: It really hurts me that BW maps can't really be replicated for SC2 :[ The units and pathing is so different for SC2 that BW maps have to be altered so much sometimes ..... and then it's no longer THE BW map :[ Loki II seems excellent. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On December 11 2011 19:52 Big J wrote: how many minerals are on the backdoor blockers? (already imagining a 1-1-1 with mules to open up a backdoor entrence )I don't know, but a good way to fix this is to stack several mineral sets on top of each other, each with 5 minerals in them. | ||
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Ragoo
Germany2773 Posts
On December 11 2011 20:42 iGrok wrote: I don't know, but a good way to fix this is to stack several mineral sets on top of each other, each with 5 minerals in them. Then you can't see how many minerals there are tho and workers can mine all of them at the same time. | ||
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Keyboard Warrior
United States1178 Posts
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Mereel
Germany895 Posts
first off the hole that i added. the thing is, on destination the area infront of the natural is freaking huge and such huge areas usually dont work in sc2. first, with the modern unit clumping there is no need for them and second, it favours zerg. Open Area: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/d0ZH1l.jpg) So i added that hole to create 2 chokes that can be used to forcefield and just to break it up a little. the chokes are still pretty big though. Open Area with hole: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rTLZ0l.jpg) i know its hard to see proportions as a nonmapmaker and only with a overview picture. if some americans wants to host it on US that would be great, so u could check it out urself. secondly the bridges. the area around them is still pretty massiv, so they are just another choke to break it up. and furthermore there are enough side pathes to move around if u dont want to fight there. and thirdly the main, its perfectly fine. its not 446whatever (the editor is dumb when u add random minerals somewhere) try it ingame pls | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10211 Posts
On December 10 2011 11:29 -NegativeZero- wrote: I agree that the holes should be removed, they seem unnecessary. However, I think the bridges are fine, since the entire point is that they are 3 narrow chokepoints - it's a risk to move your army through and get caught in the middle, but the advantage is that the path is shorter. If you don't want to take that risk, there is the other, wider path around the side of the map... i know thats the point, but lets just test. because sentry/collosi would just be totally unfair on this map. forcefield an army that is walking thru the bridges then get collosi in the back. | ||
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Mereel
Germany895 Posts
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
Really? No one has commented on low ground siegeable main mineral line? Even if terran does not do that, the cliff near main makes other haras much stronger. Huge ground area behind main (and natural) mineral lines will make mutas much much less useful. Forcing 4baseVS4base in this map against zerg seems pretty easy. It is borderline hilarious how strong bunker rushes are in this map. The zerg has to block so much space to not let terran build an insta win construction site. + Show Spoiler [example] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vmJIy.jpg) Also it is silly how open the cliffs above natural are, but still are unpathable. | ||
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Grebliv
Iceland800 Posts
On December 11 2011 19:52 Big J wrote: how many minerals are on the backdoor blockers? (already imagining a 1-1-1 with mules to open up a backdoor entrence )If scouted at all that attack will always be worse than a frontal 1-1-1 so i sincerely don't see the problem. it's a normal 1-1-1 up a 1x ramp, which you can do at the front as well but here there are minerals blocking so you need to spend mules on that instead of getting $$$. The only case where you don't have to go up the 1x ramp at the front is when there's already an expo there which makes this alternate path even worse. Only thing i could see this getting muled for (or just opened at all by an offensive terran) is for sneaky hellion runbys very specific cheese and perhaps some sneaky bio "pokes" (but not really). tldr: If scouted i don't see the problem with this sort of backdoor. Just like in bw it can open up for some specific shenanigans but i almost entirely relies on not getting scouted and usually just serves as a later game shortcut/path for the defender. | ||
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Kabel
Sweden1746 Posts
If so, where can I find the map file? | ||
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antehero
Afghanistan1 Post
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Aunvilgod
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Meerel
Germany713 Posts
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eTcetRa
Australia822 Posts
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algue
France1436 Posts
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Qwyn
United States2779 Posts
Love the aesthetics. Water at the top is a bit out of place, though. Hurts my eyes. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
Is there any chance you could port this map to HoTS if you're still looking at TL OP? | ||
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