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On January 03 2012 06:20 vdAcE wrote:
when you upload this map on the European server?

P.S this map is beautiful!!!

On January 02 2012 22:52 MildCocoA wrote:
Uploaded map in NA

wait EU & SEA

On January 05 2012 01:16 Sumadin wrote:
Gotta admit i am not liking the Neutral creep turmor island expantions. Island expantions by default always favor terran. This is not only because of lift off but also because of turrets which are superior to their counterparts because of possible Upgrades and repairs. When even Blizzard say they can't make islands balanced you really have to consider if it can work.

The problem i find with a creep tumor is also that it reacts so differently to different races.

Protoss:
Protoss are already a clear losser in terms of Island expantions because their only option for taking them is through a warp prism. Now they also have to get a Observer to make space and even then they have to wait for the creep to reside. Protoss don't really have other options for removing the tumor as stargate doesn't provide mobile detection. You could drop a cannon on island but then it is just going to take even longer to take the expansion.

Zerg:
Zerg is slightly better in this regard as they do have 2 options for getting a drone to the island. Nydus and Overlord drops. The latter is probably preferred as it doesn't give it self away instantly. Both of these require lair so the detection is not really an issue. Also once the tumor has been dealt with Zergs can instantly take the expansion as Creep doesn't prevent zerg buildings.

Terran:
As mentioned Terran already has many advantages regarding islands which is why even blizzard has given up on them. Besides Turrets and Lift off terran also have scan which gives acces to much earlier removal of the tumor, potentially through a Banshee rush. A raven could also do the job. While the creep still has to reside terrans can have their base ready and even make it an orpital before that. Once the creep goes away terrans can instantly land the finished base which overall might be even faster than what Zergs can currently do. Drops are also a much more common tactic for terran and medivacs has multible usages besides taking the expantion. Hence terran still has a clear advantage regarding these islands, with or without tumor.

On January 05 2012 15:38 DYEAlabaster wrote:



While what you said is absolutely true IN THEORY, in practise, island expansions are taken most by zerg, second by toss, and LEAST by terran (for some reason). Statistically.

On January 05 2012 15:38 DYEAlabaster wrote:
While what you said is absolutely true IN THEORY, in practise, island expansions are taken most by zerg, second by toss, and LEAST by terran (for some reason). Statistically.

On January 06 2012 05:27 Antares777 wrote:
I'm pretty sure Zerg takes islands the most, then Terran, and lastly Protoss. Using a Creep Tumor really harms the ability to take an island expansion as Protoss. I would just leave them unblocked to give them more of a chance, because it won't really make the islands any easier to expand to as Terran or Zerg. Zerg will have detection by the time they can get to the island, and Terran will have detection from the start. Protoss is forced to get an Observer and Warp Prism, which can only build one at a time (unless the player is doing some ridiculous double Robotics Facility build) and cut into Colossus production, making their army weaker.

In summary, the Creep Tumors should be removed.

In addition to that, it would be awesome if the islands were within blink range. Then Protoss could do an exclusive blink Stalker gateway build, allowing them to split their army and making games involving Protoss much more interesting.

On January 18 2012 21:27 Ketch wrote:


Maybe put a object on the island that destroys itself after 5-8 min? Like the watch tower on Xel'Naga Fortress used to do.. I think the creep + tumor is intended to block the island early game, so maybe this mechanic could also be used again. I always have like islands though, just being around as an option on the map.

On January 06 2012 05:27 Antares777 wrote:

In addition to that, it would be awesome if the islands were within blink range. Then Protoss could do an exclusive blink Stalker gateway build, allowing them to split their army and making games involving Protoss much more interesting.