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StarGalaxy
Germany744 Posts
I think they were worried that the beta gets less hype and less participation. if anybody can play it as a custom map it doesn't make too much sense to make beta key contests and marketing stuff like that. It obviously sucks but i think it's still a reasonable request from blizzard. I am looking forward to your new other project/map XenoX101. | ||
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Thalandros
Netherlands1151 Posts
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On September 02 2012 11:39 NewSunshine wrote: I feel I should dispel this common misconception. 1- Of course that's all you need to do to make the new units. As powerful as the editor is, what did you think was really needed? 2- It's similar for a reason, he's copied it number for number. Of course it's going to be completed faster than when Blizzard did it, because Xenox wasn't designing the new units and coming up with the numbers from scratch. Blizzard has done literally all of the hard work, analyzing the roles that races need filled, and coming up with units that fill those roles without excessive role-based overlap. I've seen lots of people bashing Blizzard for this, when it's a frankly idiotic complaint. You go design LotV then, if it's so easy. edit: I don't mean to degrade the work you've done at all, Xenox, just the opposite. The thing is, Blizzard has given the word to take it down, as is their absolute right, and people are brooding it more than is necessary, and hating where it isn't necessary. That is because people don't stop and think for a moment to see why they are doing that, but just see something that they don't like and start screaming "F**K YOU BLIZZARD!". | ||
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wrj
219 Posts
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Lysergic
United States355 Posts
How will blizzard go about removing it from their servers? Couldn't people still publish it under a different name, or publish it privately to play with friends? | ||
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XenoX101
Australia729 Posts
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ETisME
12740 Posts
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Lionel2b
United States13 Posts
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TomoYoda
Croatia20 Posts
Really great job there. Respect. So sad they are taken down. gl hf | ||
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Ballistixz
United States1269 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On September 04 2012 02:00 Ballistixz wrote: this map has been around for a very long time and only now blizz decides to flex there muscles to take it down? that must mean beta is right around the corner as in sometime this month im hoping. people are talking about pros starting these days... | ||
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HDgBober
25 Posts
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[]Phase[]
Belgium927 Posts
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
I'm still wondering what they're going to do when someone shares the map they made and hundreds of people are uploading it to play — bans? | ||
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wrj
219 Posts
 erg: Ultralisks' frenzied ability have not been deleted.Terrian: Widow mines' damage was decreased to 160 from 200. BCs' damage to ground was increased to 10 from 8. Reapers' regeneration ability doesn't need research, the upgrade to their speed is still there.Protoss: Oracles' cloak field ability was deleted, instead, they can scan a target area, all cloaked and burrowed units will be visible for 20s. Tempests' damage decreased to 30 and no longer have additional damage to massive units, attack speed decreased from 6 to 3.3. The purifier ability of mothership core has been changed to 25 damage, range 7 lasts 45 seconds from 60 damage, range 13 lasts 20 seconds. Mothership core now have a new ugly model. Mothership core now can move with a speed of 0.47. Mothership core's teleport to nexus ability has been deleted. Mothership core now have 100 shield and 150 Hp, down from 350/350. Mothership core's charge ability now costs 100 energy, increased from 25. Mothership now have cloak field ability. Mothership's vortex ability now stun the units in target area for 20s and prevent any damage to these units.this are new changes to hots which we wont be able to test! | ||
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XenoX101
Australia729 Posts
ZERG Hydralisk - Speed boost off-creep reduced to 25% from 50% (so now it is still slightly faster on creep) Viper - Movement speed increased to 2.95 from 2.25 Locust - Attack speed increased to 0.8 from 1.2 (technically does 50% more damage than before) - Range increased to 3 from 2 Ultralisk - Charge now requires an upgrade - Charge deals one swipe of normal attack damage upon arrival - Frenzy has been brought back TERRAN Reaper - Reaper health reverted back to 50 from 60 (it was buffed to 60 in the TvZ battle report) - Reaper's Combat Drugs health regeneration ability no longer requires an upgrade - Reaper's bonus damage to light increased to 5 from 3, making it do 18 total to light instead of 14 (4(+5) x2) (this means SCVs now take the same 3 shots to kill as probes and drones) - Nitro packs are back in (yay!) and still require factory Widow Mine - Detonate no longer timed - Detonate target damage reduced to 165 from 20 - Detonate splash damage reduced to 35 from ~50 (though this may have just been an error on my part since this value was never confirmed) Battlecruiser - Ground attack increased to 10 from 8 - Redline reactor ability has been removed (temporarily doubled Battlecruiser speed) PROTOSS Oracle - Cloaking field ability has been removed, replaced with 'Revelation' ability that reveals enemy cloaked units within a target area - Preordain no longer reveals cloaked units Tempest - No longer does bonus damage to massive - Regular damage reduced to 30 from 45 - Attack speed increased to 3.3 from 6 (means it is an overall buff to damage) - Movement speed reduced to 1.88 from 2.25 Mothership Core - Looks way cooler now - Health reduced to 150 from 350 - Shield reduced to 100 from 350 - Energize energy cost increased to 100 from 25 - Movement speed increased to 0.47 from 0 (so can now move) - No longer has Teleport ability - Purify damage reduced to 25 from 60 - Purify range reduced to 7 from 13 - Purify duration increased to 45 seconds from 20 Mothership - Vortex reverted back to affecting both ground and air units from only affecting ground units - No longer has the Stasis ability (new ability that froze air units within an area around the Mothership including the Mothership itself for 20 seconds) | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
Is the beta out yet? | ||
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
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-NegativeZero-
United States2142 Posts
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Fig
United States1324 Posts
On September 04 2012 06:03 -NegativeZero- wrote: That tempest change is just facepalmingly bad. Their DPS was already awful, and the high burst damage was basically what could make them useful. Plus the long cooldown made them more micro intensive, allowing you to position them between shots and forcing you to carefully plan and target each shot. I won't be surprised if by the end of the beta they're just another a-move laser spamming unit instead of the unique concept they started out as. Exactly, Blizzard is making the same mistake with the Tempest that they already made with the Void Ray. If they don't realize that this is reducing micro, then no matter how hard they try, Stargate units will always suck. | ||
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