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StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 03:57:41
September 02 2012 03:47 GMT
#1641
I don't think blizzard fears selling less Hots expansions because of this map. As soon as hots would have been released nobody would have played this mod anymore. There is so much new stuff with Hots (e.g. ladder, campaign, blizzard dota etc) which will be reason enough to buy it.

I think they were worried that the beta gets less hype and less participation.
if anybody can play it as a custom map it doesn't make too much sense to make beta key contests and marketing stuff like that. It obviously sucks but i think it's still a reasonable request from blizzard.

I am looking forward to your new other project/map XenoX101.
Cj hero | Zest
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
September 02 2012 07:22 GMT
#1642
The game does not have the models which is understandable: And good, since it's not made by Blizzard, so I think people still look forward to the beta. Also, the mod doesn't support all maps - Beta would. Although this is super interesting and I regularly try it out - I'll also look very forward to the beta!
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 09:52:30
September 02 2012 09:52 GMT
#1643
On September 02 2012 11:39 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 10:48 Natespank wrote:
This is amusing.

1- That you could just make a mod that is basically the entire multiplayer component of their upcoming expansion shows that their expansion, in terms of multiplayer, is nothing but them toying with some models and the unit editor features of their maps.
2- Your mod was so similar to the planned expansion they made you take it down- apparently, you do their job as well or better than they do.

What are we paying them for? Let's get the Starbow guys some funding so they can get full time testers and designers, apparently there's no difference between blizzard and them/him.

Honestly, depending on the execution of it, starbow looks a lot more promising than hots anyway... actually, might go play a game now...

I feel I should dispel this common misconception.

1- Of course that's all you need to do to make the new units. As powerful as the editor is, what did you think was really needed?

2- It's similar for a reason, he's copied it number for number. Of course it's going to be completed faster than when Blizzard did it, because Xenox wasn't designing the new units and coming up with the numbers from scratch. Blizzard has done literally all of the hard work, analyzing the roles that races need filled, and coming up with units that fill those roles without excessive role-based overlap. I've seen lots of people bashing Blizzard for this, when it's a frankly idiotic complaint. You go design LotV then, if it's so easy.

edit: I don't mean to degrade the work you've done at all, Xenox, just the opposite. The thing is, Blizzard has given the word to take it down, as is their absolute right, and people are brooding it more than is necessary, and hating where it isn't necessary.

That is because people don't stop and think for a moment to see why they are doing that, but just see something that they don't like and start screaming "F**K YOU BLIZZARD!".
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
wrj
Profile Joined August 2012
219 Posts
September 02 2012 18:31 GMT
#1644
lets hope tomorow morning on 3 am hots beta begin i hope so balizard cuz if you dont do it you are bad people
Lysergic
Profile Joined December 2010
United States355 Posts
September 03 2012 06:15 GMT
#1645
Is there a place to download the latest version of this mod/map?

How will blizzard go about removing it from their servers? Couldn't people still publish it under a different name, or publish it privately to play with friends?
XenoX101
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia729 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 09:11:53
September 03 2012 09:09 GMT
#1646
Ok guys the maps have been taken down now. Also I actually meant to say 3:00am CST instead of PST, my apologies if this affected anyone's schedule. Either way the maps had to go down within these hours. Thanks to everyone who played and supported the map, and I hope everyone who wanted to had a chance to play it in the past few days (I personally had a lot of fun playing some 4v4s and the occasional 1v1). The next HOTS content you will experience will naturally all be from Blizzard, as the HOTS Beta arrives and we brace ourselves for the full release with all the HOTS Beta content that's bound to come up. It's been a ton of fun working on the maps though, and hopefully we can do it again with Legacy of the Void, depending on Blizzard's stance and the kind of information available in the press releases; though of course that will be in quite some time from now .
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12840 Posts
September 03 2012 11:00 GMT
#1647
Thanks XenoX101 for all your work, I had a blast playing them!!
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Lionel2b
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13 Posts
September 03 2012 13:22 GMT
#1648
Thank you XenoX101. I had many hours of enjoyment with these maps
TomoYoda
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia20 Posts
September 03 2012 13:24 GMT
#1649
Thanks XenoX101!
Really great job there.
Respect.

So sad they are taken down.

gl hf
Ballistixz
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1269 Posts
September 03 2012 17:00 GMT
#1650
this map has been around for a very long time and only now blizz decides to flex there muscles to take it down? that must mean beta is right around the corner as in sometime this month im hoping.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
September 03 2012 17:06 GMT
#1651
On September 04 2012 02:00 Ballistixz wrote:
this map has been around for a very long time and only now blizz decides to flex there muscles to take it down? that must mean beta is right around the corner as in sometime this month im hoping.


people are talking about pros starting these days...
HDgBober
Profile Joined March 2012
25 Posts
September 03 2012 17:22 GMT
#1652
XENOX big respect!
[]Phase[]
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium927 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 17:34:06
September 03 2012 17:32 GMT
#1653
what kind of a dick move is that from blizzard? "Cant let everyone enjoy beta" If there'd be enough spots in their betas, id get it, but we know that most of us arent getting beta any time soon
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
September 03 2012 18:27 GMT
#1654
I was always wondering what Blizzard would do to maps like this. I guess I see part of their reaction now, just a bit delayed.


I'm still wondering what they're going to do when someone shares the map they made and hundreds of people are uploading it to play — bans?
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
wrj
Profile Joined August 2012
219 Posts
September 03 2012 19:42 GMT
#1655
Important Changeserg: Ultralisks' frenzied ability have not been deleted.Terrian: Widow mines' damage was decreased to 160 from 200. BCs' damage to ground was increased to 10 from 8. Reapers' regeneration ability doesn't need research, the upgrade to their speed is still there.Protoss: Oracles' cloak field ability was deleted, instead, they can scan a target area, all cloaked and burrowed units will be visible for 20s. Tempests' damage decreased to 30 and no longer have additional damage to massive units, attack speed decreased from 6 to 3.3. The purifier ability of mothership core has been changed to 25 damage, range 7 lasts 45 seconds from 60 damage, range 13 lasts 20 seconds. Mothership core now have a new ugly model. Mothership core now can move with a speed of 0.47. Mothership core's teleport to nexus ability has been deleted. Mothership core now have 100 shield and 150 Hp, down from 350/350. Mothership core's charge ability now costs 100 energy, increased from 25. Mothership now have cloak field ability. Mothership's vortex ability now stun the units in target area for 20s and prevent any damage to these units.

this are new changes to hots which we wont be able to test!
XenoX101
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia729 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 22:15:57
September 03 2012 19:46 GMT
#1656
Hello, yes I've noted the changes as they are quite interesting, here they are below.


ZERG

Hydralisk
- Speed boost off-creep reduced to 25% from 50% (so now it is still slightly faster on creep)

Viper
- Movement speed increased to 2.95 from 2.25

Locust
- Attack speed increased to 0.8 from 1.2 (technically does 50% more damage than before)
- Range increased to 3 from 2

Ultralisk
- Charge now requires an upgrade
- Charge deals one swipe of normal attack damage upon arrival
- Frenzy has been brought back


TERRAN

Reaper
- Reaper health reverted back to 50 from 60 (it was buffed to 60 in the TvZ battle report)
- Reaper's Combat Drugs health regeneration ability no longer requires an upgrade
- Reaper's bonus damage to light increased to 5 from 3, making it do 18 total to light instead of 14 (4(+5) x2) (this means SCVs now take the same 3 shots to kill as probes and drones)
- Nitro packs are back in (yay!) and still require factory

Widow Mine
- Detonate no longer timed
- Detonate target damage reduced to 165 from 20
- Detonate splash damage reduced to 35 from ~50 (though this may have just been an error on my part since this value was never confirmed)

Battlecruiser
- Ground attack increased to 10 from 8
- Redline reactor ability has been removed (temporarily doubled Battlecruiser speed)


PROTOSS

Oracle
- Cloaking field ability has been removed, replaced with 'Revelation' ability that reveals enemy cloaked units within a target area
- Preordain no longer reveals cloaked units

Tempest
- No longer does bonus damage to massive
- Regular damage reduced to 30 from 45
- Attack speed increased to 3.3 from 6 (means it is an overall buff to damage)
- Movement speed reduced to 1.88 from 2.25

Mothership Core
- Looks way cooler now
- Health reduced to 150 from 350
- Shield reduced to 100 from 350
- Energize energy cost increased to 100 from 25
- Movement speed increased to 0.47 from 0 (so can now move)
- No longer has Teleport ability
- Purify damage reduced to 25 from 60
- Purify range reduced to 7 from 13
- Purify duration increased to 45 seconds from 20

Mothership
- Vortex reverted back to affecting both ground and air units from only affecting ground units
- No longer has the Stasis ability (new ability that froze air units within an area around the Mothership including the Mothership itself for 20 seconds)
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
September 03 2012 20:33 GMT
#1657
Xenox, where are you getting this information?
Is the beta out yet?
moo...for DRG
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
September 03 2012 20:50 GMT
#1658
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
September 03 2012 21:03 GMT
#1659
That tempest change is just facepalmingly bad. Their DPS was already awful, and the high burst damage was basically what could make them useful. Plus the long cooldown made them more micro intensive, allowing you to position them between shots and forcing you to carefully plan and target each shot. I won't be surprised if by the end of the beta they're just another a-move laser spamming unit instead of the unique concept they started out as.
vibeo gane,
Fig
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1324 Posts
September 03 2012 22:43 GMT
#1660
On September 04 2012 06:03 -NegativeZero- wrote:
That tempest change is just facepalmingly bad. Their DPS was already awful, and the high burst damage was basically what could make them useful. Plus the long cooldown made them more micro intensive, allowing you to position them between shots and forcing you to carefully plan and target each shot. I won't be surprised if by the end of the beta they're just another a-move laser spamming unit instead of the unique concept they started out as.

Exactly, Blizzard is making the same mistake with the Tempest that they already made with the Void Ray. If they don't realize that this is reducing micro, then no matter how hard they try, Stargate units will always suck.
Can't elope with my cantaloupe
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