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[M] (3/5) City of the Damned

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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
March 24 2011 07:43 GMT
#1
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The City of the Damned - where souls spend their last moments battling by the waypoint to Hell.



You've never seen the like of this map before. I promise you that.

City of the Damned has been in the works for over two months in some form or another. I feel this is by far the best map I have created, and it is a very original setup. So, without further ado...

+ Show Spoiler [Overview] +
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Thats right. 5 way rotational symmetry bitches.


Close spawns are disabled, so its effectively a 3p map. And the ring of buildings surrounding the map marks the no-fly-zone boundary.

Each base consists of a large main, a backdoor natural, and a semi-open third. The Third also has a "side-door", a passage blocked by destructible rocks that is LOS blocked from the third. In the middle, a single watchtower keeps track of all movement around the Portal to Hell. You can still move around the map without being spotted by moving through the side doors. Backdoor expos have 7 minerals and a Rich Vespene Geyser. The cliffs in front of each third are droppable, but the middle watchtowers are not.

Rush distance averages 138.

And now for some pretty shots ^^
+ Show Spoiler +
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Wooo! Blue/Orange Contrast!
And yeah, that is a pentagram in the middle. Gateway to Hell, remember?


This isn't completely finished. Theres still more detail work to be done, and I'm not quite happy with some of the shapes. I'm looking forward to your feedback!

Huge thanks to prodiG, dimfish. Boomstevo, FlopTurnReaver, monitor, dezi, NullCurrent, Nemireck, Wildfire, Logginurkeyz, Etrnity, and everyone else who's helped me out! Its been a long crazy process, and I got the rotation down before NullCurrent made his Odd Symmetry guide... that would've really helped!

Last thing: I know that a lot of people get discouraged/bored, and stop working on a map halfway through. Let me show you the original version:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Pretty fucking big difference. I hope this inspires someone out there to go that extra distance when creating their maps!
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Magrath
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada292 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 07:52:11
March 24 2011 07:49 GMT
#2
Incredible! It was bound to happen. Disabling close position spawning is a really nice touch with. Drops to the main and third would suck for those who spawn counter-clockwise to the opponent.



Also it's a good touch to keep the highground areas around the main small so ranged units can hit anything that drops up there. That was one flaw with LT was the size of the highground didn't allow players with just ground units deal with it.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 24 2011 07:57 GMT
#3
Has this been published on all servers?
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
March 24 2011 08:00 GMT
#4
On March 24 2011 16:57 FinestHour wrote:
Has this been published on all servers?

Not publicly. I'm still playing with it :D

What server are you on?
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IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
March 24 2011 08:30 GMT
#5
Add some lava, then you've got yourself a city of the damned.
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WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
March 24 2011 08:32 GMT
#6
yeah thats pretty sexy
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
March 24 2011 08:34 GMT
#7
On March 24 2011 17:30 IronManSC wrote:
Add some lava, then you've got yourself a city of the damned.


I've thought about it. Its hard to add lava without ruining my colors xD. But I'll see what I can do.
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dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
March 24 2011 10:13 GMT
#8
That last picture ... rise Satan XD
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dimfish
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States663 Posts
March 24 2011 10:33 GMT
#9
Glad to see the unveil, and the straight pentagon of buildings on the edge is a nice creepy touch!
tomnov
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel148 Posts
March 24 2011 10:48 GMT
#10
Close spawns are disabled, so its effectively a 3p map.


you can't put 3 players in this map without having a pair of them spawn close to each-other, so it is in fact a 2p map
I reject your reality and substitute my own
HAUER
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark208 Posts
March 24 2011 10:51 GMT
#11
I want this! Release on EU ASAP! :D
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dimfish
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States663 Posts
March 24 2011 10:54 GMT
#12
On March 24 2011 19:48 tomnov wrote:
Show nested quote +
Close spawns are disabled, so its effectively a 3p map.


you can't put 3 players in this map without having a pair of them spawn close to each-other, so it is in fact a 2p map


He means a 3-player map in terms of spawn scenarios (2). On a 2-player map there is one spawn scenario.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 24 2011 10:57 GMT
#13
This city is so damned, if u zoom in rly far you can see a spawn of the devil choose what seat to take

5player map... Why arent these more common? So well worked out and strangely balanced. Is the 'inbase' blinkable?
KCCO!
Antares777
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1971 Posts
March 24 2011 11:01 GMT
#14
A (mostly) symmetrical 5P map?! Impossible!

Seriously nice work. I think that the middle may be favored for Terran because of the XWT and the 5 pillars nearby. I'd love to test this sometime.
Archivian
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom362 Posts
March 24 2011 11:35 GMT
#15
Thats right. 5 way rotational symmetry bitches.

LOL awesome.

I nearly had a migraine trying to do a 3 player map, I dont think I could survive making a 5 player.

Nicely done (i bet he used magic.. dark and bad magic)

Great texturing and I like the pillars alot, nice to break up the armies a little. Its something I'm trying to fit into a map atm but I've not quite done it right yet.

Though, I'm not sure about he DRox, Its not bad or anything but I'm just wondering if they need to be there.
"you were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!" Micheal Caine
Skrelt
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands306 Posts
March 24 2011 12:04 GMT
#16
this is, imo, the best looking map i have ever seen in sc2. If it plays good i dno, but i like the look soe freaking much!
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lefix
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1082 Posts
March 24 2011 14:28 GMT
#17
such a simple and yet clever idea.
i wonder if this is going to start a new trend in mapmaking :D
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adso
Profile Joined March 2011
718 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 14:35:56
March 24 2011 14:34 GMT
#18
thank you for such engorging eye candy
edit:+ Show Spoiler +
nice adding the "base" version
monitor
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2408 Posts
March 24 2011 15:37 GMT
#19
Woooaaahhhh!!!

That looks really amazing. Waaay different from when I saw it. This version looks almost perfect, but there are a couple things that I should note.

Primarily, I would slightly alter the 3rd. Right now its very easy to hold as protoss, and not so easy as zerg (since it reduces rush distance). I suggest removing the rocks at the small choke and making it wider. You should also move the LoS blockers to where the rocks where, to give Terran some extra buidling room and a less awkward wall off.

It looks like you can put a pylon behind the 3rds mineral line and warp into the in-base expansion. This could be a serious problem PvT, PvP, and maybe even PvZ, because you get past the wall-in (and free harass @ natural). The map is cool enough for me to not really worry about it, but if possible you should make it so pylons don't reach the in-base expansion.
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Penke
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden346 Posts
March 24 2011 16:01 GMT
#20
Wow, I am always impressed with 3p maps, but this...!

This is art, good job! :D
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 16:30:59
March 24 2011 16:29 GMT
#21
Great map, first thing I was thinking was if you spawn close positions it's going to be hell lol, then I read you can't do that I was like /thumbsup

Is there anyway you can model edit those signs so they say City of the Damned rather then Guckton and New Yang City?

As Monitor said, make sure make sure make sure toss can't put a pylon by the 3rd and warp into the inbase natural, otherwise this'll turn into a delta quadrant where you see 4gates a good majority of the time because you can warp into their inbase expansion. Other then that it looks great, nice job!

(I'll post some more feedback when I get around to play this if I find anything I disagree with hehe)

ps. That picture of the first version of the map...looks terrible lol. Good job on staying with it and making it as good as it is now.
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
monitor
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2408 Posts
March 24 2011 16:44 GMT
#22
Just wanted to say, this map would be epic for a five person FFA. This has gotta be the first 5p map in sc2, but what about 5p rotational maps in Brood War? I think it might be the first of its kind!

You might consider naming it something to highlight that its five player, like Pentagon or Pentopolis or Pentameter.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
March 24 2011 16:46 GMT
#23
Thanks everyone :D

I think the best change to the inbase would be to make it highground. Then toss can't warp in without vision.
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SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
March 24 2011 16:50 GMT
#24
On March 25 2011 01:44 monitor wrote:
Just wanted to say, this map would be epic for a five person FFA. This has gotta be the first 5p map in sc2, but what about 5p rotational maps in Brood War? I think it might be the first of its kind!

You might consider naming it something to highlight that its five player, like Pentagon or Pentopolis or Pentameter.


How about....PentiGrok!

Har de har har... :x
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prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
March 24 2011 18:53 GMT
#25
On March 25 2011 01:44 monitor wrote:
Just wanted to say, this map would be epic for a five person FFA. This has gotta be the first 5p map in sc2, but what about 5p rotational maps in Brood War? I think it might be the first of its kind!

You might consider naming it something to highlight that its five player, like Pentagon or Pentopolis or Pentameter.

No! Don't change the name!

I thought hard for a good two minutes before I suggested this one. And none of those names have anything to do with Diablo.


And Diablo is awesome.
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Albrithe
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada187 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 19:01:10
March 24 2011 18:59 GMT
#26
I have a question. It's a 5 player map. You say that close spawns are disabled, so it's effectively a '3p' map. But if 3 players are playing then won't two of them be forced to be close positions? Maybe I just don't understand the terminology?

Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question but it confused the hell out of me. Aside from that, this map looks amazing.

edit: herp derp, went back and read the posts on the first page and I get it now >_<
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.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
March 24 2011 19:05 GMT
#27
..Wow, this is a beautiful map, and at least from first glance, looks pretty balanced to me.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
March 24 2011 21:13 GMT
#28
Wow this looks amazing. Definitely needs more attention very nicely done
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Archivian
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom362 Posts
March 24 2011 21:17 GMT
#29
Awesome map.

But it seems like each spawn can siege tank the next players mineral line on the third. Hard to be sure though.
"you were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!" Micheal Caine
superezekiel
Profile Joined November 2010
United States35 Posts
March 29 2011 01:45 GMT
#30
The art is great, the layout is good and it looks like a ton of fun. But if close spawns are enabled, how can it be a 3p map? Somebody would have to spawn closer to somebody else.
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tomnov
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel148 Posts
March 30 2011 17:18 GMT
#31
On March 24 2011 19:54 dimfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 19:48 tomnov wrote:
Close spawns are disabled, so its effectively a 3p map.


you can't put 3 players in this map without having a pair of them spawn close to each-other, so it is in fact a 2p map


He means a 3-player map in terms of spawn scenarios (2). On a 2-player map there is one spawn scenario.



for 2 players spawning in:
2p map - 1 scenario (1-2)
3p map - 3 scenarios (1-2, 1-3, 2-3)
this map - 5 scenarios (1-3, 1-4, 2-4, 2-5, 3-5)

your argument is invalid!
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
March 30 2011 19:45 GMT
#32
On March 31 2011 02:18 tomnov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 19:54 dimfish wrote:
On March 24 2011 19:48 tomnov wrote:
Close spawns are disabled, so its effectively a 3p map.


you can't put 3 players in this map without having a pair of them spawn close to each-other, so it is in fact a 2p map


He means a 3-player map in terms of spawn scenarios (2). On a 2-player map there is one spawn scenario.



for 2 players spawning in:
2p map - 1 scenario (1-2)
3p map - 3 scenarios (1-2, 1-3, 2-3)
this map - 5 scenarios (1-3, 1-4, 2-4, 2-5, 3-5)

your argument is invalid!

by spawn scenarios he means places your opponent could be based on where you are.
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orotoss
Profile Joined September 2010
United States298 Posts
March 30 2011 20:07 GMT
#33
Seems like a three player match would either have all three spawning near each other, giving the middle guy a disadvantage, or one spawning separate from the other two, giving him the advantage.
BLARRGHGHH
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 30 2011 20:13 GMT
#34
On March 31 2011 02:18 tomnov wrote:

for 2 players spawning in:
2p map - 1 scenario (1-2)
3p map - 3 scenarios (1-2, 1-3, 2-3)
this map - 5 scenarios (1-3, 1-4, 2-4, 2-5, 3-5)

your argument is invalid!


Close spawns are disabled, so its effectively a 3p map.


Right back at ya
KCCO!
Poppinfresh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States13 Posts
March 30 2011 20:14 GMT
#35
Last thing: I know that a lot of people get discouraged/bored, and stop working on a map halfway through. Let me show you the original version:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Pretty fucking big difference. I hope this inspires someone out there to go that extra distance when creating their maps!


AH! What the heck is that! Bring back the the other picture! lol. This map looks amazing btw... the newer version. lol.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-30 20:32:17
March 30 2011 20:31 GMT
#36
On March 31 2011 05:07 orotoss wrote:
Seems like a three player match would either have all three spawning near each other, giving the middle guy a disadvantage, or one spawning separate from the other two, giving him the advantage.

Please read the other posts in the thread :/


On March 31 2011 05:14 Poppinfresh wrote:
Show nested quote +
Last thing: I know that a lot of people get discouraged/bored, and stop working on a map halfway through. Let me show you the original version:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Pretty fucking big difference. I hope this inspires someone out there to go that extra distance when creating their maps!


AH! What the heck is that! Bring back the the other picture! lol. This map looks amazing btw... the newer version. lol.

Thanks!
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SilverJohnny
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States885 Posts
April 05 2011 06:13 GMT
#37
omg this map looks so sick, I reaaaaaally hope it gets some tournament play or something!
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
April 05 2011 07:26 GMT
#38
Thanks johnny! Tune in to my stream, I work on it from time to time. http://www.justin.tv/tligrok
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